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RE: Dec13.42: got him! - 8/7/2020 1:37:29 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

The CL Naka only carries one float plane.


the way I read it is:
Naka and Nagara --> one Pete each
Kako and Furutaka --> the other 5 Jakes (2 each + maybe a spare?) EDITED: I thought it carried 3 FPs, but it is only 2

of course it is a total guess


Plus the FPs that diverted, such as Jakes. So you may have sunk more ships than you think.

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Dec14.42: Bofors are awesome - 8/7/2020 3:37:32 AM   
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Dec14.42

Based on this new turn's naval search, I think RangerJoe was correct and 3 heavy cruisers and 2 light cruisers sank last turn,
additionally, there are 3 more float planes down this turn, which means another cruiser sank

What I know for sure is that Suzuya and Makigumo survived, as they were attacked, this turn, by the slow BB SCTF
results were underwhelming to say the least, it seems those old battleships are useless even against damaged ships

Suzuya will need yard time, but should survive




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Day Time Surface Combat, near Endeh at 65,114, Range 26,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Suzuya, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
DD Makigumo, Shell hits 3, heavy fires

Allied Ships
BB Maryland, Shell hits 1
BB Nevada, Shell hits 1
DD Gansevoort
DD Gillespie
DD Sims
DD Hughes
DD Anderson
DD Mustin
DD Russell
DD Walke

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 26,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 26,000 yards
BB Nevada engages CA Suzuya at 26,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards
BB Nevada engages CA Suzuya at 24,000 yards
BB Maryland engages DD Makigumo at 24,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards
BB Maryland engages CA Suzuya at 20,000 yards
Range closes to 17,000 yards
BB Nevada engages CA Suzuya at 17,000 yards
BB Maryland engages DD Makigumo at 17,000 yards
DD Makigumo engages DD Hughes at 17,000 yards
DD Sims engages DD Makigumo at 17,000 yards
DD Gansevoort engages DD Makigumo at 17,000 yards
Range closes to 16,000 yards
BB Nevada engages CA Suzuya at 16,000 yards
CA Suzuya engages DD Walke at 16,000 yards
DD Russell engages DD Makigumo at 16,000 yards
DD Gillespie engages DD Makigumo at 16,000 yards
DD Gansevoort engages DD Makigumo at 16,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards
BB Maryland engages CA Suzuya at 15,000 yards
DD Hughes engages DD Makigumo at 15,000 yards
DD Walke engages DD Makigumo at 15,000 yards
DD Russell engages DD Makigumo at 15,000 yards
DD Mustin engages DD Makigumo at 15,000 yards
DD Anderson engages DD Makigumo at 15,000 yards
DD Hughes engages DD Makigumo at 15,000 yards
DD Sims engages DD Makigumo at 15,000 yards
Range closes to 12,000 yards
BB Maryland engages CA Suzuya at 12,000 yards
BB Maryland engages DD Makigumo at 12,000 yards
DD Walke engages DD Makigumo at 12,000 yards
DD Russell engages DD Makigumo at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards
BB Nevada engages CA Suzuya at 11,000 yards
BB Maryland engages CA Suzuya at 11,000 yards
DD Walke engages DD Makigumo at 11,000 yards
DD Makigumo engages DD Mustin at 11,000 yards
CA Suzuya engages DD Sims at 11,000 yards
Range increases to 17,000 yards
BB Nevada engages CA Suzuya at 17,000 yards
BB Maryland engages DD Makigumo at 17,000 yards
CA Suzuya engages DD Walke at 17,000 yards
DD Makigumo engages DD Hughes at 17,000 yards
Range increases to 23,000 yards
BB Maryland engages DD Makigumo at 23,000 yards
Range increases to 29,000 yards
BB Nevada engages CA Suzuya at 29,000 yards
BB Maryland engages DD Makigumo at 29,000 yards
Task forces break off...


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RE: Dec14.42: Bofors are awesome - 8/7/2020 3:41:48 AM   
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While the old battleships found and fought Suzuya, the heavy cruiser TF only found enemy aircraft, lots of them. But I guess the AA power of 6 bofors armed heavy cruisers, was too much. attacks ended with several bombers shot down and no damage to the USN...
This is actually an issue, because my opponent is getting demoralized... I am worried the game might end soon,




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Morning Air attack on TF, near Endeh at 64,113

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 16
B5N2 Kate x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 2 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
CA San Francisco
CA Quincy

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 5000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Endeh at 64,113

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 2 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
CA Chicago
CA Quincy

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Endeh at 64,113

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 11
D4Y1 Judy x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y1 Judy: 3 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
CA Chicago
CA Salt Lake City

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000' *
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Endeh at 64,113

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 3 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
CA Salt Lake City

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Endeh at 64,113

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 66 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 6 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
CA Chicago
CA Northampton

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp



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RE: Dec14.42: Bofors are awesome - 8/7/2020 3:46:15 AM   
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other news:

- P-70s once again shot down night bombers
- tanks at Celebes had some success against retreating enemy troops



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Night Air attack on Manado , at 75,99

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 70 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 3

Allied aircraft
P-70 Havoc x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 4000 feet *
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
18th FG/6th FS with P-70 Havoc (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 4000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Manado , at 75,99

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 2

Allied aircraft
P-70 Havoc x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 4000 feet *
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
18th FG/6th FS with P-70 Havoc (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 4000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 4000.
Raid is overhead

Some CAP have air radar

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Ground combat at 65,105 (near Makassar)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13850 troops, 123 guns, 36 vehicles, Assault Value = 402

Defending force 780 troops, 9 guns, 152 vehicles, Assault Value = 96

Japanese adjusted assault: 43

Allied adjusted defense: 225

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 5

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker: disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
448 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 35 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 16 (1 destroyed, 15 disabled)

Assaulting units:
54th Division
Sasebo 5th SNLF

Defending units:
763rd Tank Battalion
637th Tank Destroyer Battalion


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Ground combat at 65,105 (near Makassar)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 762 troops, 9 guns, 151 vehicles, Assault Value = 84

Defending force 13541 troops, 123 guns, 36 vehicles, Assault Value = 369

Allied adjusted assault: 51

Japanese adjusted defense: 199

Allied assault odds: 1 to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
166 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
763rd Tank Battalion
637th Tank Destroyer Battalion

Defending units:
54th Division
Sasebo 5th SNLF

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RE: Dec14.42: Bofors are awesome - 8/7/2020 3:54:43 AM   
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Those are poorly executed attacks on your cruisers and bad weather to boot in the morning.

Unfortunately, Japan is using poor tactics and frittering away their inherent advantage in fighting you here and at this time. You have shown how you like to structure your task forces...and Japan hasn't come up with a counter.


I am sure Japan feels frustrated and this just kind of snowballs to where they get either excessively timid or excessively reckless.



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RE: Dec14.42: Bofors are awesome - 8/7/2020 11:13:11 AM   
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Yes, that tendency to send single TFs close to known Allied bases had been his doom; it was the same when I killed the KB, his lone TF was at Palmyra, very near PH. and torpedoes were already spent after 2 days of raiding

His problem now, is that he run out of counters; his fleet is so diminished that he can no longer seriously protect more than one theater, in the meantime, I am getting more and more reinforcements

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RE: Dec13.42: got him! - 8/7/2020 12:43:45 PM   
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RE: Dec14.42: Bofors are awesome - 8/7/2020 1:53:25 PM   
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Re: your P-70 NFs - I wonder if their presence also lifts the D/L on the enemy bombers that helps the flak shoot them down? Have you noticed flak being more effective now that you have the NFs or do they usually get one of the enemy bombers anyway?

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RE: Dec14.42: Bofors are awesome - 8/7/2020 2:22:12 PM   
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I also have noticed flak is more effective, I don't know if it is related or if just a coincidence

but at least one plane gets shot down daily by Manado AA; this is last turn


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 15, 42
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Night Air attack on Manado , at 75,99

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 4

Allied aircraft
P-70 Havoc x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 6000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
18th FG/6th FS with P-70 Havoc (6 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 4000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 7000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Manado , at 75,99

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 16 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3

Allied aircraft
P-70 Havoc x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 4000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
18th FG/6th FS with P-70 Havoc (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 4000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Raid is overhead

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Manado , at 75,99

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 12 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 8

Allied aircraft
P-70 Havoc x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 4000 feet *
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
18th FG/6th FS with P-70 Havoc (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 4000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 4000.
Raid is overhead

Some CAP have air radar


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RE: Dec14.42: Bofors are awesome - 8/7/2020 2:35:27 PM   
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Flak is such a game inside a game, and so heavily abstracted.

But DL plays a huge role. Try night bombing in Dec of 1941 a base with AA guns, but no searchlights or radar or CAP. Then do it again with searchlights and radar and cap.

Even the most pitiful CAP planes, and I mean Petes on 10% CAP with 40 air to air skill, when combined with radar & searchlights and AA that can effectively fire...will seriously degrade bomber effectiveness to the point it is almost not worth doing.

Does the DL change during the course of the bombing run? Unknown.

Then the question becomes does the radar equipped CAP effect time to target....and the answer seems to be no. You might therefor assume that the NF is not improving the accuracy of the AA since these calculations seem to be prior to combat.

Does the combined wear and tear, hits inflicted by the NF, and then hits inflicted by AA cause more KIAs in hex...absolutely. Is the AA more effective because of the NF -- absolutely yes, but it is definitely unclear if the NF is causing the AA to fire more accurately rather than cumulative damage.


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RE: Dec14.42: Bofors are awesome - 8/7/2020 2:59:50 PM   
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As long as you P-70s don't get shot down by your anti-aircraft fire.

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RE: Dec14.42: Bofors are awesome - 8/7/2020 4:50:56 PM   
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P-70 is an easy plane to miss, because there are no night fighter squadrons arriving in 43, you have to find the one that upgrades to it (18th FG/ 6th FS)

I hope there won't be flak losses, because production is limited to only 2 months, you have enough planes for one squadron + some spares; then nothing, USAAF wise, until september 43

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RE: Dec14.42: Bofors are awesome - 8/8/2020 10:53:24 PM   
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You used your ships in multiple TFs well and avoided the long lances, which could have reversed the results. Again one large TF falls victim to 3 or more smaller TFs, when the larger single TF runs out of ammo.

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RE: Dec14.42: Bofors are awesome - 8/9/2020 2:21:52 AM   
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Given the fuel problems, and almost complete destruction of the Japanese CAs (which IMO are the core of the surface fleet for Japan), I don't see this game going much longer

Those attacks are almost like a death ride....except it's WAY early!

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RE: Dec14.42: Bofors are awesome - 8/9/2020 4:24:22 PM   
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I don't think torpedoes would have reversed the results; it is unusual to get more than a few hits with torpedoes, so maybe I would had lost 1 or 2 cruisers, then the fact remained that he started the fight very low on ammo (due to bombardment) against 2 TFs that fought and another 2 that were very close.

Going forward he has lost so many ships that from now on, he has the dilemma of getting very few strong TFs or multiple puny ones. The Allies now have significant quantitative advantage, enough to negate the IJN's qualitative edge. His TFs will now need to be centered on battleships, with some support from cruisers and not enough "good" destroyers

In a couple of months, at the latest, I will have enough forces to start operations on other theaters, and then he will have nothing to counter


End game prediction: the game will end when the remaining IJN is crushed and not because of lack of fuel for heavy industry



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Dec16.42: Makassar's carrier CAP - 8/9/2020 8:20:51 PM   
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Makassar bombing continued, but this turn I was puzzled by the strong CAP over the base. Notice Makassar was cratered and almost closed

A few minutes on the combat replay, I understood what was happened; he parked his carriers 2 hexes south of Makassar

As you can see from the air losses, Lightnings won over Zeroes... and this opens a window of opportunity for seeking battle




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Afternoon Air attack on Makassar , at 65,106

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 36

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
Zuiho-1/A with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
Zuiho-1/B with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 5000.
Raid is overhead
Junyo-1/A with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
Shoho-1/B with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes
Junyo-1/B with A6M5 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes
Hiyo-1/A with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(9 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 9 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on 54th Division, at 65,105 , near Makassar

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
A6M3a Zero x 4
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 2

Allied aircraft
P-38F Lightning x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38F Lightning: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
201 Ku S-1 with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Raid is overhead
251 Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
77th Sentai Det B with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on 54th Division, at 65,105 , near Makassar

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2
A6M3a Zero x 3
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 1

Allied aircraft
P-38F Lightning x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x P-38F Lightning sweeping at 10000 feet *

CAP engaged:
201 Ku S-1 with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 68 minutes
251 Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
77th Sentai Det B with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on Makassar , at 65,106

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 27

Allied aircraft
P-38E Lightning x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 4 destroyed

No Allied losses

CAP engaged:
Zuiho-1/A with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
Junyo-1/A with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
Hiyo-1/A with A6M5 Zero (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 12000.
Raid is overhead
Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 85 minutes
Shoho-1/B with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes
Junyo-1/B with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on Watampone , at 66,105

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 8

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 7000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on 637th Tank Destroyer Battalion, at 65,105 , near Makassar

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 1 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 9

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on 93rd Chinese Corps, at 82,42 (Ankang)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on 54th Division, at 65,105 , near Makassar

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hudson III (LR) x 11
Hudson III (LR) x 24
B-25C Mitchell x 12

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
43 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Hudson III (LR) bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
12 x Hudson III (LR) bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
11 x Hudson III (LR) bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on 54th Division, at 65,105 , near Makassar

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Allied aircraft
Mitchell II x 12
B-25C Mitchell x 12

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Mitchell II bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on 54th Division, at 65,105 , near Makassar

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 7 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hudson III (LR) x 18

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Hudson III (LR) bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Kendari , at 70,106

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
Beaufort V x 11
B-26 Marauder x 28
B-26B Marauder x 12

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 1 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Runway hits 1
Port hits 5
Port fuel hits 5
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Beaufort V bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 6000 feet
Port Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 6000 feet
Port Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 6000 feet
Port Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 6000 feet
Port Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Makassar , at 65,106

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 16

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 42
B-17F Fortress x 17
B-24D Liberator x 31

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 4
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Port Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Port Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Junyo-1/A with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 8 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
Zuiho-1/A with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Raid is overhead
Shoho-1/B with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 11000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
Junyo-1/B with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 19000.
Raid is overhead
Hiyo-1/A with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on Makassar , at 65,106

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 6

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 23
B-17F Fortress x 5
B-24D Liberator x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Port Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Junyo-1/A with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 137 minutes
Zuiho-1/A with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
Junyo-1/B with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Raid is overhead
Hiyo-1/A with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on Sasebo 5th SNLF, at 65,105 , near Makassar

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 8
B-24D Liberator x 8
B-25C Mitchell x 16

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
59 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking Sasebo 5th SNLF ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking Sasebo 5th SNLF ...


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Afternoon Air attack on 54th Division, at 65,105 , near Makassar

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 13
B-25C Mitchell x 16

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Makassar , at 65,106

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 5
B-24D Liberator x 6

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Junyo-1/A with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
Zuiho-1/A with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
Junyo-1/B with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on Kendari , at 70,106

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 7

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 1 damaged

Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 6000 feet
Port Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on 54th Division, at 65,105 , near Makassar

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 8

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Makassar , at 65,106

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 1

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Junyo-1/B with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on Makassar , at 65,106

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 7

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Carrier support unable to supply air cover..


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Afternoon Air attack on 54th Division, at 65,105 , near Makassar

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 7 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 12

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Makassar , at 65,106

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 7

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Port Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Carrier support unable to supply air cover..


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Afternoon Air attack on Makassar , at 65,106

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 3

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Carrier support unable to supply air cover..


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Afternoon Air attack on Kendari , at 70,106

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 9

Allied aircraft losses
B-26B Marauder: 2 damaged

Port hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 6000 feet
Port Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Kendari , at 70,106

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 9 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 8

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 2 damaged

Port hits 3
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 6000 feet
Port Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on 54th Division, at 65,105 , near Makassar

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38F Lightning x 15

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x P-38F Lightning sweeping at 10000 feet *



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RE: Dec16.42: Makassar's carrier CAP - 8/9/2020 9:23:37 PM   
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Keep sweeping his carrier fighters, then a low level naval bombing. Do you have an airfield to move in attack bombers and torpedo planes?

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RE: Dec16.42: Makassar's carrier CAP - 8/10/2020 10:17:28 PM   
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Well it could have been another Tassafargona where an inferior IJN fleet of 8 DDs carrying supplies, thus half their torpedoes, was ambushed by an American cruiser TF but quickly turned the tables with long lances heavily damaging 3 cruisers and sinking a 4th. Your initial force was inferior to his especially the large number of long lances he had, it could have been far worse.

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RE: Dec16.42: Makassar's carrier CAP - 8/10/2020 11:04:35 PM   
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true, but Tassafaronga was a night time fight; he spent all night bombarding; while my TFs spent the night running full speed to Dili. I guesstimated that if there was going to be a battle, it was going to happen at daytime. Daytime means less chances of Japanese torpedo surprise attacks

Also in game is unusual to get torpedo hits on more than one or two warships, assuming SCTF vs SCTF

and at the end of the day, it is a chance you have to take, the Allies have numbers advantages, and even if the 1st TF got wipped out, I would still had won, as long as the battleships sank one or two heavy cruisers

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RE: Dec16.42: Makassar's carrier CAP - 8/11/2020 3:07:19 PM   
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I am the Japanese and I am in late July 43 and my long lances night or day have hardly ever hit this game. So I understand the risk and using 3+ TFs against his one with depleted ammo from a bombardment was another factor you exploited. A victory well planned and executed.

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Dec18.42: Makassar's TFs - 8/11/2020 3:26:48 PM   
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Problem is that long lances are normally shot at very long ranges, unless total surprise, a warship will easily dodge

So this is December 19th
I can send a "suicide" TF to try to intercept the enemy at Makassar, but I doubt it would survive the day as the enemy carriers will then destroy it

Or I can simply mind my own business and keep unloading at Dili, with my weaker carriers hugging Dili's airbase
Who knows, he might want to fight on my turf




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RE: Dec18.42: Makassar's TFs - 8/11/2020 4:29:11 PM   
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Of course, the Long Lances are also being used against more agile ships than slow Battleships or merchantmen.

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RE: Dec13.42: got him! - 8/11/2020 4:42:34 PM   
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You will know soon enough, but my guess is he wants to reinforce and clear you out of the Celebes.

It will take a solid month or more before he can invade down by Timor. Prep and control of sea and air...can't believe he is pulling out, here, now.

My advice is to go offensively defensive. If that makes sense.

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RE: Dec13.42: got him! - 8/11/2020 4:52:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

You will know soon enough, but my guess is he wants to reinforce and clear you out of the Celebes.

It will take a solid month or more before he can invade down by Timor. Prep and control of sea and air...can't believe he is pulling out, here, now.

My advice is to go offensively defensive. If that makes sense.


But it is raining fire on Makassar, he doesn't have a chance against pretty much all USAAF bombers parked at Manado. They are bombing and destroying supply on a daily basis, the hex terrain is "clear" and the airfield is already gone

His troops are running away, his only advantage is that I can't resupply, other than by submarine, until I get more carriers







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RE: Dec13.42: got him! - 8/11/2020 4:57:54 PM   
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If he has no fighter coverage, how about air transported supplies?

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RE: Dec13.42: got him! - 8/11/2020 5:01:23 PM   
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If he has no fighter coverage, how about air transported supplies?


Yes, it is possible, but I prefer submarine express, a lot more supplies carried; it is a short trip from Darwin

plus this is still crappy torpedo season, I am not missing a lot
Dutch and S boats are doing submarine patrols, the fleet boats and SSTs runs supply (which is then destroyed by air attacks)

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RE: Dec13.42: got him! - 8/11/2020 5:04:04 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

You will know soon enough, but my guess is he wants to reinforce and clear you out of the Celebes.

It will take a solid month or more before he can invade down by Timor. Prep and control of sea and air...can't believe he is pulling out, here, now.

My advice is to go offensively defensive. If that makes sense.


But it is raining fire on Makassar, he doesn't have a chance against pretty much all USAAF bombers parked at Manado. They are bombing and destroying supply on a daily basis, the hex terrain is "clear" and the airfield is already gone

His troops are running away, his only advantage is that I can't resupply, other than by submarine, until I get more carriers








Two AA Regiments can mean a big difference...

Retreating or regouping?

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RE: Dec13.42: got him! - 8/11/2020 5:05:24 PM   
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true, maybe he is unloading AA and supplies

I guess I will need to do some risky stuff

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

You will know soon enough, but my guess is he wants to reinforce and clear you out of the Celebes.

It will take a solid month or more before he can invade down by Timor. Prep and control of sea and air...can't believe he is pulling out, here, now.

My advice is to go offensively defensive. If that makes sense.

+1. Send Ching Lee and the CLs/DDs.

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RE: Dec13.42: got him! - 8/11/2020 6:10:13 PM   
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I did something different, a lot riskier as it involved the carriers... we will see very soon if it was a good play



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