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RE: Nov7.42: Bofors fire testing - 7/16/2020 6:48:57 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury

Morning Air attack on TF, near Dili at 71,115

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 41
B5N2 Kate x 33
D3A1 Val x 8
D3A2 Val x 16

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 15 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 3 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 2 damaged
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak
D3A2 Val: 9 damaged
D3A2 Val: 2 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CA Chester
CA Chicago
CA Northampton
CA New Orleans
CA Quincy
CA San Francisco

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Dili at 71,115

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 31
B5N2 Kate x 23
D3A1 Val x 14
D3A2 Val x 21

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 10 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged
D3A2 Val: 12 damaged
D3A2 Val: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CA Chester, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
CA Quincy
CA New Orleans
CA Northampton
DD Tucker
CA San Francisco

Congrats Jorge-

As somebody playing as japan in about the same timeframe I hope these results were more about the weather or pilot skill and not about the Bofors...sheesh

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RE: Nov7.42: Bofors fire testing - 7/16/2020 6:52:49 PM   
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important to mention that the hardcore, old guard of Japanese pilots was decimated in 1942; those pilots active as of Nov42 are most likely well skilled, but low experienced

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RE: Nov7.42: Bofors fire testing - 7/16/2020 7:29:40 PM   
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Thanks Jorge,

Do you use more than 4 CAs together often? Does it ever hurt their effectiveness?

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RE: Nov7.42: Bofors fire testing - 7/16/2020 7:42:38 PM   
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The TF composition and lack of DDs was totally dictated by chance; I had all these heavy cruisers coming out from October's refit at Sydney and I had lots of destroyers entering refit on November. I didn't have enough DDs at Sydney to form properly escorted TFs; therefore I sent them all to Darwin with the idea of sorting out once they arrive, as there were other TFs with spare DDs there

Battle started when TF was a few hexes before reaching Darwin, and I decided to commit them "as is".
My ideal TF composition would be something like
3CA + 7DDs or
4CA + 8DDs or
5CA + 10DDs

decision based on how many ships available and how many of the same class; I prefer to use single class or similar class if possible; and if I really have a lot of ships, I prefer to do many TFs or 9 to 12 ships instead of few, big task forces

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RE: Nov7.42: Bofors fire testing - 7/16/2020 7:46:18 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury

The TF composition and lack of DDs was totally dictated by chance; I had all these heavy cruisers coming out from October's refit at Sydney and I had lots of destroyers entering refit on November. I didn't have enough DDs at Sydney to form properly escorted TFs; therefore I sent them all to Darwin with the idea of sorting out once they arrive, as there were other TFs with spare DDs there

Battle started when TF was a few hexes before reaching Darwin, and I decided to commit them "as is".
My ideal TF composition would be something like
3CA + 7DDs or
4CA + 8DDs or
5CA + 10DDs

decision based on how many ships available and how many of the same class; I prefer to use single class or similar class if possible; and if I really have a lot of ships, I prefer to do many TFs or 9 to 12 ships instead of few, big task forces

Thanks for the advice, that's very helpful

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RE: Nov7.42: Bofors fire testing - 7/16/2020 8:05:44 PM   
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6 CAs pack a tremendous amount of strong AA, even this early. Throw in severe storms and they are tough.




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Nov8.42: Chuyo torpedoed and Manado tested - 7/17/2020 5:56:50 PM   
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November 8.42

Biggest news of the turn was two strikes against Japanese carriers; Stingray missed vs Hiyo, while Truant scored a hit against Chuyo.
Without any hint of major damage or explosion, I have to assume it was not severely damaged and therefore will likely withdraw to Soerabaja for repairs. That is unless the submarines catch him again
Still great news because he will be afraid, from now on, of keeping the carriers patrolling the same area for too long

Other news: He tested Manado air defenses and the test was passed with honors. In his email he mentioned this was a recon mistake. The end result was 136 air losses, mostly A6M2, but also Betties and Sallys






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RE: Nov8.42: Chuyo torpedoed and Manado tested - 7/17/2020 5:59:56 PM   
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 08, 42
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Sub attack near Roti at 66,117

Japanese Ships
CV Hiyo
BB Kongo
CL Yura
DD Yuzuki
DD Fubuki
DD Yugure

Allied Ships
SS Stingray

SS Stingray launches 4 torpedoes at CV Hiyo
Stingray bottoming out ....
DD Yuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Fubuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Yugure fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yuzuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Yugure fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yugure fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yugure fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Submarine attack near Taihoku at 88,61

Japanese Ships
xAK Lima Maru

Allied Ships
SS Pompano

xAK Lima Maru is sighted by SS Pompano
SS Pompano launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Lima Maru


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Submarine attack near Taihoku at 88,61

Japanese Ships
xAK Zenoa Maru, Shell hits 12, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Pompano

xAK Zenoa Maru is sighted by SS Pompano
SS Pompano attacking xAK Zenoa Maru on the surface
SS Pompano low on gun ammo, Gilbert F. breaks off surface engagement and submerges


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Sub attack near Sawoe-eilanden at 65,116

Japanese Ships
CVE Chuyo, Torpedo hits 1
BB Kongo
CL Yura
DD Kazegumo
DD Yuzuki
DD Fubuki
DD Yugure

Allied Ships
SS Truant

SS Truant launches 4 torpedoes at CVE Chuyo
Truant diving deep ....
DD Yuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Fubuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Yugure fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yuzuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Yugure fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yugure fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yugure fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yugure fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yugure fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Morning Air attack on Manado , at 75,99

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 88 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
A6M3a Zero x 3
G4M1 Betty x 19

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 72
P-40E Warhawk x 74

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 2 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 6 destroyed

No Allied losses

CAP engaged:
49th FG/9th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 17 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
20 planes vectored on to bombers
8th FG/36th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 26600.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
24 planes vectored on to bombers
347th FG/67th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 17 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
16 planes vectored on to bombers
347th FG/68th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 17 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
17 planes vectored on to bombers
23rd FG/74th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 17 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
17 planes vectored on to bombers
8th FG/80th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 15 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
15 planes vectored on to bombers



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Morning Air attack on Manado , at 75,99

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
A6M3a Zero x 6
G4M1 Betty x 21
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 9

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 70
P-40E Warhawk x 72

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 3 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 6 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
49th FG/9th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
24 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
16 planes vectored on to bombers
8th FG/36th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
24 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 15500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
347th FG/67th FS with P-39D Airacobra (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
19 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
347th FG/68th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
25 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
12 planes vectored on to bombers
23rd FG/74th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
20 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
24 planes vectored on to bombers
8th FG/80th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
18 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
11 planes vectored on to bombers



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Morning Air attack on Manado , at 75,99

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 107 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 35 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 63
P-40E Warhawk x 62

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
49th FG/9th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
18 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 9450 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
8th FG/36th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
19 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 15500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
347th FG/67th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
16 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
347th FG/68th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
19 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
23rd FG/74th FS with P-40E Warhawk (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
21 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
8th FG/80th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
13 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Manado , at 75,99

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 118 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 39 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 29

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 57
P-40E Warhawk x 59

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 8 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
49th FG/9th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
17 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 14450 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
8th FG/36th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 7 scrambling)
12 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
347th FG/67th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling)
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 54 minutes
347th FG/68th FS with P-39D Airacobra (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes
23rd FG/74th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
18 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 53 minutes
8th FG/80th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Manado , at 75,99

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 19
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 3

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 46
P-40E Warhawk x 54

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 7000 feet *
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
49th FG/9th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
12 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 24150.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
16 planes vectored on to bombers
8th FG/36th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 47 minutes
18 planes vectored on to bombers
347th FG/67th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 24000 and 28000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 55 minutes
14 planes vectored on to bombers
347th FG/68th FS with P-39D Airacobra (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 28000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
17 planes vectored on to bombers
23rd FG/74th FS with P-40E Warhawk (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes
19 planes vectored on to bombers
8th FG/80th FS with P-39D Airacobra (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 7450 and 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 66 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers

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Morning Air attack on Manado , at 75,99

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 71 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 13

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 34
P-40E Warhawk x 49

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 6 destroyed
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 7 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 7000 feet *
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
49th FG/9th FS with P-40E Warhawk (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
8th FG/36th FS with P-40E Warhawk (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
10 planes vectored on to bombers
347th FG/67th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 12 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
347th FG/68th FS with P-39D Airacobra (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
12 planes vectored on to bombers
23rd FG/74th FS with P-40E Warhawk (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 9 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
12 planes vectored on to bombers
8th FG/80th FS with P-39D Airacobra (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers


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RE: Nov8.42: Chuyo torpedoed and Manado tested - 7/17/2020 7:13:27 PM   
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P-39Ds at that height with the dive and the first shot are pretty effective.

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RE: Nov8.42: Chuyo torpedoed and Manado tested - 7/17/2020 9:05:01 PM   
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Poor Zero is pretty long in the tooth for Nov 1942 as a front line sweeper. Doesn't help that you outnumber him 4-1 or more.

How many radar sets do you have there to get that kind of time warning?







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RE: Nov8.42: Chuyo torpedoed and Manado tested - 7/17/2020 10:54:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Poor Zero is pretty long in the tooth for Nov 1942 as a front line sweeper. Doesn't help that you outnumber him 4-1 or more.

How many radar sets do you have there to get that kind of time warning?



Yes, but I would guess there are big daily production numbers, which make it difficult to replace. His carrier squadrons are all flying A6M5s. And of course, as you can see, I can't yet field anything better than old P-40Es and P-39Ds. I have P-38s but on less vulnerable bases. And I had P-40Ks recently, but moved them to Watampone as that is where the fight was happening

Is there an easy place to see how many ?
I would guess 9 if each base group has one





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RE: Nov8.42: Chuyo torpedoed and Manado tested - 7/17/2020 10:55:54 PM   
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and this is the base... I want 1000 mines and CS guns before rebasing my dear heavies






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RE: Nov8.42: Chuyo torpedoed and Manado tested - 7/17/2020 11:30:24 PM   
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I don't think that you have enough aviation support there . . .

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RE: Nov8.42: Chuyo torpedoed and Manado tested - 7/18/2020 1:07:34 AM   
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I have so many spare base forces, HQs, etc at Sydney, Brisbane, Townsville and embarked in TF that I can easily double that number with minimal impact to the other theaters. Same goes for British bases, too many LCUs and base forces at Ceylon and Bangladesh, not enough naval forces to break the LBA defense perimeter and use them

that said priorities for Manado are as follows:
- mines, more mines, at least 1050 to keep 7 ACMs busy
- an AGP for resupplying PTs, should arrive soon
- CS guns, on their way
- supply, I would like at least half a million, as 89K is really low numbers once all USAAF 4E are parked there, problem is he is contesting any attempt to resupply, so it will be costly
- fuel, not a lot, just but a few thousands would be nice to have

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I think any AKE with capacity to handle torpedoes can also rearm PTs. They do so for subs. All the AGP gives you is a bit more help with repairs - if you ever have a PT that survives damage.

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RE: Nov8.42: Chuyo torpedoed and Manado tested - 7/18/2020 2:33:20 AM   
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Is there an easy place to see how many ?
I would guess 9 if each base group has one





Base force probably has two radars each. Not sure on the Advance Base Force.

I am not aware of any quick way to check devices. I end up using tracker a lot for things like that. Device, pool history, sort by location.



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RE: Nov8.42: Chuyo torpedoed and Manado tested - 7/18/2020 10:27:25 AM   
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I counted and there are 8 SCR-270 radars at Manado

With regards to AKEs, I have fleets of them at Ambon and Darwin. Manado feels "too forward", too risky to send them at the moment, but if he torpedoes the incoming AGP (he sank one already), I might send a small AKE, as they are more abundant than AGPs

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I counted and there are 8 SCR-270 radars at Manado

With regards to AKEs, I have fleets of them at Ambon and Darwin. Manado feels "too forward", too risky to send them at the moment, but if he torpedoes the incoming AGP (he sank one already), I might send a small AKE, as they are more abundant than AGPs


Thankyou. I have always thought that radars are a strong hidden force multiplier but understanding their effectiveness is quite murky.

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Nov9.42: Chuyo torpedoed again - 7/18/2020 12:56:18 PM   
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Of course he torpedoed my AGP!

time to send an unlucky AKE

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Sub attack near Gorong at 82,112

Japanese Ships
SS I-169

Allied Ships
AGP Jamestown, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AMc Bantam
AMc Aroe

SS I-169 launches 2 torpedoes at AGP Jamestown
I-169 diving deep ....
Sub escapes detection

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RE: Nov9.42: Chuyo torpedoed again - 7/18/2020 1:01:37 PM   
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In much better news. Chuyo ate another couple torpedoes
this means he is in deep trouble, although I haven't got any confirmation through air losses report

In other news:
- Saumlaki captured, it will become a ASW base
- Dili attacked and forts reduced to level 1
- Endeh was attacked by Japan, again, and this time forts reduced to level 0... next turn might be the end
- 2nd AGP in route to Manado sunk




AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 09, 42
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Sub attack near Waingapoe at 61,113

Japanese Ships
CVE Chuyo, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
DD Yuzuki

Allied Ships
SS S-37

SS S-37 launches 4 torpedoes at CVE Chuyo
S-37 diving deep ....
DD Yuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Night Naval bombardment of Madjene at 65,103

Japanese Ships
DD Yanagi
DD Fuyo
DD Asagao
DD Sawakaze
DD Kamikaze
DD Nagatsuki
DD Minazuki
DD Akebono
DD Oboro
DD Asagiri
DD Ayanami
DD Inazuma
DD Hibiki
DD Hagikaze
DD Teruzuki

Port hits 34
Port fuel hits 5
Port supply hits 8

DD Yanagi firing at Madjene
DD Fuyo firing at Madjene
DD Asagao firing at Madjene
DD Sawakaze firing at 2/6th Armoured Regiment
DD Kamikaze firing at Madjene
DD Nagatsuki firing at Madjene
DD Minazuki firing at 2/6th Armoured Regiment
DD Akebono firing at 2/6th Armoured Regiment
DD Oboro firing at Madjene
DD Asagiri firing at Madjene
DD Ayanami firing at Madjene
DD Inazuma firing at Madjene
DD Hibiki firing at 2/6th Armoured Regiment
DD Hagikaze firing at Madjene
DD Teruzuki firing at Madjene


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Sub attack near Gorong at 82,112

Japanese Ships
SS I-169

Allied Ships
AGP Jamestown, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AMc Bantam
AMc Aroe

SS I-169 launches 2 torpedoes at AGP Jamestown
I-169 diving deep ....
Sub escapes detection

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Ground combat at Endeh (65,113)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 8913 troops, 72 guns, 94 vehicles, Assault Value = 256

Defending force 2332 troops, 8 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 48

Japanese adjusted assault: 46

Allied adjusted defense: 37

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), leaders(-), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
127 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Allied ground losses:
188 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 20 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

Assaulting units:
21st Ind Engineer Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
9th Infantry Regiment
146th Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
7th Australian Brigade


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Ground combat at Saumlaki (78,117)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3119 troops, 64 guns, 30 vehicles, Assault Value = 84

Defending force 2642 troops, 27 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 58

Allied adjusted assault: 33

Japanese adjusted defense: 7

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied forces CAPTURE Saumlaki !!!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), morale(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
193 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (3 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
24th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
131st Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
Kure 2nd SNLF
38th JNAF AF Unit


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Ground combat at Dili (71,115)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4142 troops, 95 guns, 68 vehicles, Assault Value = 151

Defending force 3668 troops, 24 guns, 9 vehicles, Assault Value = 81

Allied adjusted assault: 46

Japanese adjusted defense: 33

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
226 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 20 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Allied ground losses:
265 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 38 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
16th Australian Brigade
10th LH Cav Regiment

Defending units:
44th Naval Guard Unit
21st Port Unit
85th JAAF AF Bn

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November 10.42
The survivors of Palembang reached Djambi, and found it empty of enemy troops
regrettably there was no supply there, so no way of restoring them before the inevitable defeat
at least another chance to destroy oil wells

No news from Chuyo, did it survive?





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It took 6 torpedoes to sink an unarmored merchant conversion CVE. I think Enterprise and Yorktown sank for less damage, but it is done; Chuyo finally sank

I take this as a small, token revenge for the loss of Wasp and Illustrious a month ago

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 12, 42
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Sub attack near Mataram at 59,111

Japanese Ships
CVE Chuyo, Torpedo hits 3, heavy damage
DD Yuzuki

Allied Ships
SS KXI

SS KXI launches 4 torpedoes at CVE Chuyo
KXI diving deep ....
DD Yuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub






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About time . . .

But keep it up, you subs can whittle down his forces while you just get stronger.

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RE: Nov12.42: Finally.. Chuyo sank - 7/19/2020 6:55:10 PM   
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Updated Japanese CV strike potential, after Chuyo's demise

- CV Junyo 25 knots, 53 planes, 18 torpedoes, 450 sorties
- CV Hiyo 25 knots, 53 planes, 18 torpedoes, 450 sorties
- CVL Zuiho 27 knots, 30 planes, 18 torpedoes, 270 sorties
- CVL Ryuho 26 knots, 31 planes, 18 torpedoes, 270 sorties
- CVE Unyo 21 knots, 27 planes, 0 torpedoes, 90 sorties

Assuming all in the same hex (or task force): 194 planes (+20 if overfilled), and a potential for 72 torpedo strikes

possible strike pack:
92 fighters, 30 dive bombers, 72 torpedo bombers


this is all he gets until fleet carrier Taiho arrives in mid 43 (if accelerated, otherwise Feb 44) and escort carriers Kaiyo and Shinyo in mid 43 (if accelerated, otherwise late 43)


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Updated Japanese CV strike potential, after Chuyo's demise

- CV Junyo 25 knots, 53 planes, 18 torpedoes, 450 sorties
- CV Hiyo 25 knots, 53 planes, 18 torpedoes, 450 sorties
- CVL Zuiho 27 knots, 30 planes, 18 torpedoes, 270 sorties
- CVL Ryuho 26 knots, 31 planes, 18 torpedoes, 270 sorties
- CVE Unyo 21 knots, 27 planes, 0 torpedoes, 90 sorties

Assuming all in the same hex (or task force): 194 planes (+20 if overfilled), and a potential for 72 torpedo strikes

possible strike pack:
92 fighters, 30 dive bombers, 72 torpedo bombers


this is all he gets until fleet carrier Taiho arrives in mid 43 (if accelerated, otherwise Feb 44) and escort carriers Kaiyo and Shinyo in mid 43 (if accelerated, otherwise late 43)



IIRC, you can accelerate Taiho to February 1943, and the first two Unryus to about April/May; so careful, he may have more than you think earlier. You can get a couple more Unryu before end of 1943. Still, good show!

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good to know, because he is probably accelerating anything that can carry airplanes; but to accelerate all those ships, he will need to spend in naval shipyards, which will hurt his economy in the longer term

IMO he also needs to bring Musashi, to cover for his BB losses and to somehow balance the significant advantage in big guns I will have

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In terms of battleships, Japan has available:

- Kongo (Kongo class)
- Haruna (Kongo class)
- Fuso (Fuso class)
- Hyuga (Ise class)
- Mutsu (Nagato class)
- Yamato (Yamato class)
- Musashi - reinforcement (Yamato class)

Confirmed losses: Hiei, Kirishima, Ise, Nagato, Yamashiro

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You can accelerate most of the CVs and build Musashi on time, without expanding NSY, if you make a few changes

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OK good to know, I will be more careful with the carriers until I know I have significant advantage


Enemy heavy cruisers:

Available:
Myoko
Nachi
Chokai
Mikuma
Kako
Furutaka
Suzuya

Sunk:
Haguro
Tone
Chikuma
Aoba
Kinugasa
Atago
Mogami
Kumano
Ashigara
Takao
Maya, sinking confirmed on Jan31.43

7 more to go!, no reinforcements



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Light cruisers; a lot more FOW on this category

Available
Nagara
Yura
Tenryu
Kashima
Jintsu
Agano
Katori

Sunk
Abukuma
Oi
Tama
Kitakami
Kiso
Yubari
Tatsuta
Kuma
Kinu
Isuzu
Sendai
Kashii
Natori
Naka, sunk, confirmed Jan43

Reinforcements
Oyodo
Noshiro
Yahagi
Sakawa

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