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Best CV formation? - 1/6/2020 2:21:16 PM   
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Ok, what do you have in your CV groups/formation?

I have had several instances of CV groups being intercepted by much smaller surface engagement groups. They always see to hit my CV's with shell hits even though I often outnumbered in tonnage and ships by 3 and 4 to 1.

Should I have my CVs follow a surface fleet you think? Should I use the command CV escort? Trying to understand how small surface ship groups can close and engage radar/30-knot forces and the escorts seem never quite able to intercept them beforehand. My most recent engagement was 3 DD's intercepting and engaging a CV force with BB's, CA's and over 10+ DD's in clear weather. Arrgh!

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RE: Best CV formation? - 1/6/2020 2:35:25 PM   
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CVs should be covered in their Tf by a bunch of fast BB/BC, cruisers, and plenty of DD. At least 15 vessels. The emphasis should be on AAA and ASW. See next.

If you are sending a CV TF where there might be enemy SAGs, send your own SAG following your carriers at zero follow, give them a highly aggressive commander and a 1 hex reaction.

This is where you put the Porter/Tribal types DDs and some gnarly cruisers. You might lose some, but they will send the oppo SAG Winchester.

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RE: Best CV formation? - 1/6/2020 4:11:39 PM   
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CVs should be covered in their Tf by a bunch of fast BB/BC, cruisers, and plenty of DD. At least 15 vessels. The emphasis should be on AAA and ASW. See next.

If you are sending a CV TF where there might be enemy SAGs, send your own SAG following your carriers at zero follow, give them a highly aggressive commander and a 1 hex reaction.

This is where you put the Porter/Tribal types DDs and some gnarly cruisers. You might lose some, but they will send the oppo SAG Winchester.

It is important to have your SCTF with a lower number than the ACTF. The lower numbered TF gets first chance to detect and engage the enemy.

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RE: Best CV formation? - 1/6/2020 4:56:05 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Ian R

CVs should be covered in their Tf by a bunch of fast BB/BC, cruisers, and plenty of DD. At least 15 vessels. The emphasis should be on AAA and ASW. See next.

If you are sending a CV TF where there might be enemy SAGs, send your own SAG following your carriers at zero follow, give them a highly aggressive commander and a 1 hex reaction.

This is where you put the Porter/Tribal types DDs and some gnarly cruisers. You might lose some, but they will send the oppo SAG Winchester.

It is important to have your SCTF with a lower number than the ACTF. The lower numbered TF gets first chance to detect and engage the enemy.



Or to have lower TF numbers for your ACTFs so they can NEVER be outmaneuvered by a SCTF!

Some how, don't ask me how, I managed to get my main leader of the Death Star pack ACTF assigned TF #1 in my current game.

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RE: Best CV formation? - 1/6/2020 5:11:04 PM   
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I've done that.

I kept watch, and when it turned up it was assigned to a PT boat holding TF in Bombay. The next fleet re-org lined it up with Mr Towers in Pearl.

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RE: Best CV formation? - 1/6/2020 5:26:34 PM   
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Got it! Thanks so Much!

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RE: Best CV formation? - 1/6/2020 6:36:46 PM   
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For additional reading:

Reaction of the following Task Force:
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=2168891

Reaction:
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=3981594
Read Alfred’s example at the end of the post.


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RE: Best CV formation? - 1/7/2020 12:58:24 AM   
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Ok, what do you have in your CV groups/formation?

I have had several instances of CV groups being intercepted by much smaller surface engagement groups. They always see to hit my CV's with shell hits even though I often outnumbered in tonnage and ships by 3 and 4 to 1.

Should I have my CVs follow a surface fleet you think? Should I use the command CV escort? Trying to understand how small surface ship groups can close and engage radar/30-knot forces and the escorts seem never quite able to intercept them beforehand. My most recent engagement was 3 DD's intercepting and engaging a CV force with BB's, CA's and over 10+ DD's in clear weather. Arrgh!

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Are you playing as Japan or the Allies? It matters. Allied radar is better and Japanese radar more unreliable/less useful. Not to mention less numerous. It seems to be easier for radar-equipped Allied task forces to engage Japanese forces than vice versa.

Following a surface fleet is a good practice in most situations. An even better practice is to bring "enough" surface task forces of sufficient weight to use as a screen (as in, in a different hex) prevent enemy surface forces from contacting your carriers.

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