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Well, Here it is.. - 12/25/2019 10:59:33 AM   
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RE: Well, Here it is.. - 12/25/2019 11:21:53 AM   
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RE: Well, Here it is.. - 12/25/2019 12:24:27 PM   
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Christmas present to yourself? Either way, nice.

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RE: Well, Here it is.. - 12/25/2019 12:41:36 PM   
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and music.

this has got to be one of my favorite all time songs for gaming.

Renaissance - Tyrant Tula: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp7YjTnrDFw


I am wishing myself luck in learning this game. I recognize certain concepts from playing 3R. I've never played a game on a global scale, however I have played in both theaters. Most memorable are AH's War at Sea and Victory in the Pacific. Those were good Level 1 Strategy board games and a big step away from Risk. That's about it for my experience with The Navy until WITP.AE (of which I am at the Guadalcanal scenario). I've thought about getting a good submarine game in the past but it never happened. I guess my main interest up to the point of WITP.AE was always Tactical and Armor (I've played lots and lots of Steel Panthers and its variations).

I remember in 3R, Armor units had an 'exploitation combat' phase and I will be interested to find if there is anything similar to that in MWIF.

kudos on having the tutorial series available from the menu.

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RE: Well, Here it is.. - 12/25/2019 12:42:50 PM   
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Christmas present to yourself? Either way, nice.


definitely! thanks composer99


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RE: Well, Here it is.. - 12/25/2019 1:52:54 PM   
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I remember in 3R, Armor units had an 'exploitation combat' phase and I will be interested to find if there is anything similar to that in MWIF.



WiF is unusual among WW II operational level games in that it does not have some form of motorized movement phase. What it does have is the blitz result on the blitzkrieg combat table. (These are two different things.) If you roll high enough on the table, not only are the defenders removed from the map (not necessarily killed), but if the attack was in clear terrain, the attacker gets to advance two hexes. This can be a lot more devastating than it sounds.

P.S. You will discover that WiF is blessed with two different sets of combat results table, and you have to choose which set to use in a game. The rules do not tell you anywhere, but the 1d10 table is meant to be used when you are not playing with divisions, and the 2d10, which inflicts higher casualties, is meant to played when you are playing with divisions.

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RE: Well, Here it is.. - 12/25/2019 5:39:58 PM   
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Victory in the Pacific is an excellent game and also serves as a good way to begin understanding World in Flames. WiF owes a lot to VitP.

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RE: Well, Here it is.. - 12/25/2019 7:30:16 PM   
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and music.

this has got to be one of my favorite all time songs for gaming.

Renaissance - Tyrant Tula: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp7YjTnrDFw


I am wishing myself luck in learning this game. I recognize certain concepts from playing 3R. I've never played a game on a global scale, however I have played in both theaters. Most memorable are AH's War at Sea and Victory in the Pacific. Those were good Level 1 Strategy board games and a big step away from Risk. That's about it for my experience with The Navy until WITP.AE (of which I am at the Guadalcanal scenario). I've thought about getting a good submarine game in the past but it never happened. I guess my main interest up to the point of WITP.AE was always Tactical and Armor (I've played lots and lots of Steel Panthers and its variations).

I remember in 3R, Armor units had an 'exploitation combat' phase and I will be interested to find if there is anything similar to that in MWIF.

kudos on having the tutorial series available from the menu.

thanks for reading ~
AH's 3rd Reich, Victory in the Pacific and War at Sea got a lot of playing time from me during my college and early post-college years in the late 70's and early 80's. My AH's 3rd Reich play was entirely solo; but VITP and WAS wasn't. I played many hours and late into the early morning again a childhood friend and next door neighbor of mine. We also played many hours of touch football and woffer ball in his backyard. Fond memories.

He passed several years back at the age of 50.

I can say from personal experience that if you loved playing AH's 3rd Reich, VITP (and WAS) and invest the time to learn and play MWIF that not only will you get many enjoyable gaming hours in return; but that MWIF will likely become your favorite wargame EVERY!

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RE: Well, Here it is.. - 12/25/2019 7:31:05 PM   
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By the way, MERRY CHRISTMAS to everyone.

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RE: Well, Here it is.. - 12/25/2019 7:57:26 PM   
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By the way, MERRY CHRISTMAS to everyone.


And to you too, of course...

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RE: Well, Here it is.. - 12/26/2019 3:30:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jhyden

I remember in 3R, Armor units had an 'exploitation combat' phase and I will be interested to find if there is anything similar to that in MWIF.



WiF is unusual among WW II operational level games in that it does not have some form of motorized movement phase. What it does have is the blitz result on the blitzkrieg combat table. (These are two different things.) If you roll high enough on the table, not only are the defenders removed from the map (not necessarily killed), but if the attack was in clear terrain, the attacker gets to advance two hexes. This can be a lot more devastating than it sounds.

P.S. You will discover that WiF is blessed with two different sets of combat results table, and you have to choose which set to use in a game. The rules do not tell you anywhere, but the 1d10 table is meant to be used when you are not playing with divisions, and the 2d10, which inflicts higher casualties, is meant to played when you are playing with divisions.


Courtenay, THANKS for that explanation. That clears it up for me.. and it makes sense when I think about what I've seen so far in the toots.

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RE: Well, Here it is.. - 12/26/2019 3:36:05 PM   
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Victory in the Pacific is an excellent game and also serves as a good way to begin understanding World in Flames. WiF owes a lot to VitP.


thanks brian brian. It was a favorite and have spent many an hour playing!


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RE: Well, Here it is.. - 12/26/2019 4:52:01 PM   
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and music.

this has got to be one of my favorite all time songs for gaming.

Renaissance - Tyrant Tula: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp7YjTnrDFw


I am wishing myself luck in learning this game. I recognize certain concepts from playing 3R. I've never played a game on a global scale, however I have played in both theaters. Most memorable are AH's War at Sea and Victory in the Pacific. Those were good Level 1 Strategy board games and a big step away from Risk. That's about it for my experience with The Navy until WITP.AE (of which I am at the Guadalcanal scenario). I've thought about getting a good submarine game in the past but it never happened. I guess my main interest up to the point of WITP.AE was always Tactical and Armor (I've played lots and lots of Steel Panthers and its variations).

I remember in 3R, Armor units had an 'exploitation combat' phase and I will be interested to find if there is anything similar to that in MWIF.

kudos on having the tutorial series available from the menu.

thanks for reading ~


AH's 3rd Reich, Victory in the Pacific and War at Sea got a lot of playing time from me during my college and early post-college years in the late 70's and early 80's. My AH's 3rd Reich play was entirely solo; but VITP and WAS wasn't. I played many hours and late into the early morning again a childhood friend and next door neighbor of mine. We also played many hours of touch football and woffer ball in his backyard. Fond memories.

He passed several years back at the age of 50.

I can say from personal experience that if you loved playing AH's 3rd Reich, VITP (and WAS) and invest the time to learn and play MWIF that not only will you get many enjoyable gaming hours in return; but that MWIF will likely become your favorite wargame EVERY!


Thanks Rkr1958 for the post. It sounds like we grew up in the same time period. (me = 1962)

My AH gaming began with Tobruk in the early eighties and lasted for about 10 years. It was mostly with just one guy, also a childhood friend (actually my older brother's friend) and we played VItP extensively. War at Sea was a game I played mostly solo and 3R was a game that we also played extensively. Another game I remember playing a lot solo was Air assault on Crete. loved it. great memories. great game.

After moving in 1986, I found another gaming friend who played War in the Pacific (board game). That was outside of my league so we ended up playing 3R on a weekly basis, until they left the area. I remember sharing War at Sea with one of my nephews and he became a fan.

As kids, I played a lot of touch football and basketball as well.

I still remember my first pc (1994, win 3.11) and a great DOS game called "the lemmings" as well as buying some arcade software w/ games like Asteroids and Missle Command. I never played any (home) console games (except for maybe PONG) but mostly remember playing a lot of board games as a kid: Radar Search, Battleship and Risk. Every 4th of July I enjoyed blowing up my army men. The tank turrets would never go on their own so I had to remove it first... place the firecracker underneath the turret... and then it would fly

Related links:

tobruk (wiki): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobruk_(game)
air assault on crete: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Assault_on_Crete


Happy Holidays all! and thanks for reading ~





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RE: Well, Here it is.. - 12/26/2019 5:40:33 PM   
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jhyden,

I also played Tobruk, and still own it with along with every other AH wargame I ever bought, and have fond memories playing that game. This was my first small scale wargame and was, of course before Squad Leader & Cross of Iron (two other games I own and played a lot).

Unfortunately I don't own and never had the opportunity to play Air Assault on Crete.

I can remember when I was in High School, looking through AH's game catalog and mentally marking the games I'd like to buy and play one day. When I got the chance, I didn't buy them all but I did buy a good many of them including a subscription to AH's, "The General". I sill have all the issues I ever received (3 or 4 years worth).

If it's not obvious by my user name (rkr1958), I was born in 1958.

In the future, after you've had a chance to get up to speed on the game and if you wish, I'd be up for a friendly PBEM game. Similar to the one I've got going with Composer99 (but no AAR of course).

I'm in the Central Time Zone (North Alabama).

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RE: Well, Here it is.. - 12/27/2019 11:18:28 AM   
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Sounds good Ron! One of my best friends from ninth grade was named Ron. Both our families were military. My dad was retired (Army) after 20 years (WW2/Korea) and his dad was still on active duty. After a year of living across the street from me, they moved on base (Lawton/Ft.Sill in OKlahoma) for a year then went to Germany. We stayed in touch for awhile but eventually lost contact.

-James

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RE: Well, Here it is.. - 12/27/2019 12:59:04 PM   
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This is a very cool game. Things are beginning to take shape and make sense as I go along. thanks again to all and best wishes.

thanks for reading ~






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RE: Well, Here it is.. - 12/27/2019 2:54:44 PM   
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It is good that you are doing the Barbarossa scenario with your own set up. The quick start setup they give you has a truly awful Russian set up; I sometimes suspect it was made to give the Germans the opportunity to use some rules that don't come up very often, in particular, overrun.

One thing you should at some point do is to set up a unit two hexes away from one of your opposing stacks that can be overrun, and then do so. This can be a little tricky, since the moving units' move has to be broken into two parts, first adjacent to the unit and then the overrun. This can be done, but you have to learn how to do it, and it is better to do so in a learning environment than in a real game, where you might get frustrated.

Overruns of land units don't happen very often, but they can be game changers if you pull one off.

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RE: Well, Here it is.. - 12/27/2019 4:18:54 PM   
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It is good that you are doing the Barbarossa scenario with your own set up. The quick start setup they give you has a truly awful Russian set up; I sometimes suspect it was made to give the Germans the opportunity to use some rules that don't come up very often, in particular, overrun.




One thing you should at some point do is to set up a unit two hexes away from one of your opposing stacks that can be overrun, and then do so. This can be a little tricky, since the moving units' move has to be broken into two parts, first adjacent to the unit and then the overrun. This can be done, but you have to learn how to do it, and it is better to do so in a learning environment than in a real game, where you might get frustrated.

Overruns of land units don't happen very often, but they can be game changers if you pull one off.



amazing post dude as it definitely sets me off in the right direction! For other newbies who might be confused, you can access the quick start setup that court is referring to by going into the 'saved games' directory. The barsetup.gam file can be downloaded as an attachment (zip file) here:

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3504213&mpage=1&key=quick%EF%BF%BD,



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RE: Well, Here it is.. - 12/27/2019 5:09:04 PM   
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Sounds good Ron! One of my best friends from ninth grade was named Ron. Both our families were military. My dad was retired (Army) after 20 years (WW2/Korea) and his dad was still on active duty. After a year of living across the street from me, they moved on base (Lawton/Ft.Sill in OKlahoma) for a year then went to Germany. We stayed in touch for awhile but eventually lost contact.

-James

I'm in the Pacific Time Zone or -08.00 GMT
James, My dad served in WW2 and Korea. In WW2, he was in the Army Air Corps and served in the China-Burma-India Theater. He was stationed in India as part of a communications squad supporting air operations against Japanese targets in Burma and China. During Korea he was in the US Air Force and served in Germany and the States.

Dad got out of the military for 2-years in 1945 at the end of the war . During that time he and my mom got married (see picture below). In 1947, when the Air Force become a separate branch, he was offered a chance to go back in and at his old rank, which he did. He retried in 1962 at the rank of Master Sargent. I was still a small tyke of 4-years but do have faint memories of living on base and our last day there.

My dad passed in 2003 at the age of 82. He had an Air Force honor guard at his funeral.

It's sad that we have so few veterans of the second world war left ... growing up I thought we'd have them for ever. It never occurred to me then that one day the second world war would pass out of living memory and into history. We're not quite there yet but every year we're getting closer.

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RE: Well, Here it is.. - 12/27/2019 6:27:40 PM   
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Thanks Ronnie. I don't have that much information about my dad as he didn't talk about his experiences. He joined the service as a young man and was shipped to Germany towards the end of WW2. My mom mentioned him crossing the Remagen bridge and a battle taking place near a dam. At one point in his career he was a 'runner'. It's subtle, but there's a scene from S.P.Ryan where a runner is called for by the Tom Hanks character. It's the part where they enter their first village (little girl/father and sniper) are the key elements of that section. I think most of his combat experiences happened in Korea. He retired an E7, Sergeant first class. He met my mom (she = nurse and he = patient) in Japan while wounded. My dad passed away in his early fifties and my mom is still alive (just turned 90). I remember spending a lot of time on the base for shopping, dr. visits, bowling, golfing and basketball, etc.

thanks for reading,
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RE: Well, Here it is.. - 12/30/2019 12:30:37 PM   
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Here's something I found that reminded me of 3R: The Qattara Depression. I've always been curious about WHY this area was impassable. Also, the desert supply rule in MWIF is very interesting. For 3R, I seem to remember a supply limit on German units in Africa.

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RE: Well, Here it is.. - 12/30/2019 12:31:37 PM   
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RE: Well, Here it is.. - 1/6/2020 4:02:37 PM   
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Here's an explanation of Naval Movement.






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RE: Well, Here it is.. - 2/5/2020 10:38:37 AM   
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Here is a bookmark for myself. thanks for reading ~










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RE: Well, Here it is.. - 2/5/2020 10:40:13 AM   
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RE: Well, Here it is.. - 3/30/2020 1:57:45 PM   
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I really like the supply rules. When I first began, I was helped by my experience (memories) with 3R. The comparisons became fewer and fewer once I got to the land units section. So far, I understand everything I've read. Any questions I've had earlier have been answered by continuing to read. I decided to use the manuals as a reference and focus on the tutorials.


Here is an interesting video I found for the AH game "Victory in the Pacific". It has been a long time since I have seen this board!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU4T5uWtnwU


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RE: Well, Here it is.. - 4/1/2020 1:30:32 PM   
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Have you started playing yet?

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RE: Well, Here it is.. - 4/1/2020 3:53:44 PM   
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Have you started playing yet?


Hi Ian,
not yet, but i'm looking forward to starting! thanks



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