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Reenactment of "hypothetical historical combats&qu... - 11/11/2019 3:50:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Recently someone commented in my steam screenshot that my screenshot looks like a moment from Red Army by Ralph Peters. I remember I really enjoyed that book, but it was too long ago, so I cannot recall details XP
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1903411146

Anyway, this reminds me of possibility of reenacting several famous combats from cold war books from AB. But problem might be the map I guess.

Regarding Red Storm Rising, there are very good google map info:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?msa=0&mid=1rh_rN2GMDLWxe8Z2nEfId7t5JkM&ll=51.49780001152675%2C10.098195179687536&z=6
Unfortunately, most of 'important' ground battles in Germany in RSR was around the south of Hanover. Closest AB map is 22sec's Goslar map, but even Goslar map is too east of major combat zone of RSR.
Meanwhile, RSR mentioned battle of Bieben as a key to defend the flank of Hanover front, which I think this might be the wrong information. But anyway, we could make battle of Bieben scenario as a canon battle in RSR.

Too bad I cannot recall all cold war novels I've read so far, I read those like 7~8 yrs ago. But there might be a possibility of user scenario or campaign based on The Third World War, Team Yankee, Red Army, or any other cold war novels, and sell it as "hypothetical reenactment" or "hypothetical historical" battles from hot cold war classics.

But again, map would be the issue. If there is no overlap between AB maps and literatures, then... Yet we can still rely on our imagination to create our own hot cold war story

ps) Where was the Team Yankee's Hill 214 location? might it be inside Fulda region? Or more into GDR territory and outside of AB map?

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RE: Reenactment of "hypothetical historical combat... - 11/11/2019 11:09:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		I never read Team Yankee but could certainly do some research. Maps would be an issue depending where the book takes place especially if much of it was generalized. I do know they were a company size unit which is similar in makeup to the scenario's I'm doing with my Team Delta/ Task Force 2/68 Armor although mine is an Armor Company (+ attached Mech Infantry platoon).



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RE: Reenactment of "hypothetical historical combat... - 11/12/2019 2:17:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've been reading The Third World War by John Hackett and I've been considering making a scenario of the first clash between US and Soviet forces, in Yugoslavia. I think the town fought over might be in the Italy-Yugoslavia map, although the USMC is not explicitly modeled in Armored Brigade, I'd just have to improvise with Army units.

EDIT: I just checked, and the town in question is not on the Italy-Yugoslavia map.

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RE: Reenactment of "hypothetical historical combat... - 11/12/2019 10:06:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've got a biography of John (Shan) Hackett.

Well worth a read I would say. He was at Arnhem and had a dramatic tale to tell.

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RE: Reenactment of "hypothetical historical combat... - 11/12/2019 9:28:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: exsonic01

Recently someone commented in my steam screenshot that my screenshot looks like a moment from Red Army by Ralph Peters. I remember I really enjoyed that book, but it was too long ago, so I cannot recall details XP
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1903411146

Anyway, this reminds me of possibility of reenacting several famous combats from cold war books from AB. But problem might be the map I guess.

Regarding Red Storm Rising, there are very good google map info:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?msa=0&mid=1rh_rN2GMDLWxe8Z2nEfId7t5JkM&ll=51.49780001152675%2C10.098195179687536&z=6
Unfortunately, most of 'important' ground battles in Germany in RSR was around the south of Hanover. Closest AB map is 22sec's Goslar map, but even Goslar map is too east of major combat zone of RSR.
Meanwhile, RSR mentioned battle of Bieben as a key to defend the flank of Hanover front, which I think this might be the wrong information. But anyway, we could make battle of Bieben scenario as a canon battle in RSR.

Too bad I cannot recall all cold war novels I've read so far, I read those like 7~8 yrs ago. But there might be a possibility of user scenario or campaign based on The Third World War, Team Yankee, Red Army, or any other cold war novels, and sell it as "hypothetical reenactment" or "hypothetical historical" battles from hot cold war classics.

Speaking of Red Army, does anyone know how his The War in 2020 compares to it when it comes to realism?
Funny thing is that I have read it somewhere in 2010 or 2009 and I included an aerodyne with railguns in one of my early mods, IIRC XD .
I'm asking because I was looking for Red Army in the internet stores and then saw The War of 2020 in the writer's bibliography and then I realised that I have read his books before in translation.

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RE: Reenactment of "hypothetical historical combat... - 9/29/2020 7:30:48 PM   
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RE: Reenactment of "hypothetical historical combat... - 12/12/2020 4:12:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		The locations in Team Yankee are fictional. I believe the ones in Red Army are too, but maybe not.

This book contains maps and to&e for 12 scenarios from Team Yankee, Red Army and Red Storm Rising:

https://russellphillips.uk/books/bear-marches-west-12-scenarios-1980s-nato-vs-warsaw-pact-wargames/

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