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Los Angeles, November 2019 - 11/5/2019 10:18:58 AM   
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So... Where is my flying car?

Edit: And the perennial night...

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RE: Los Angeles, November 2019 - 11/5/2019 12:06:10 PM   
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Which reminds me it's time for my annual rewatch of the movie.
This time will be in UHD.

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RE: Los Angeles, November 2019 - 11/5/2019 1:23:25 PM   
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WHERE IS THE ATARI SHOP SELLING THE LATEST CONSOLES



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RE: Los Angeles, November 2019 - 11/5/2019 7:02:06 PM   
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WHERE IS THE ATARI SHOP SELLING THE LATEST CONSOLES




Ah, yes, the "Blade Runner Curse"

I want to visit LA. Where is my PanAm ticket?

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RE: Los Angeles, November 2019 - 11/5/2019 7:08:12 PM   
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At least Koss still makes great headphones...

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RE: Los Angeles, November 2019 - 11/6/2019 9:10:18 AM   
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At least Koss still makes great headphones...


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RE: Los Angeles, November 2019 - 11/6/2019 9:13:54 AM   
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Funny how CitizenCon 2049 matches...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzpmRkjFLLE

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Definitely the best movie I have seen in the past years, and the best sequel to date. Only thing missing was Vangelis doing the soundtrack but must say one would not tell without knowing it.





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RE: Los Angeles, November 2019 - 11/6/2019 11:01:27 AM   
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Spot on...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4TzXV6iGgg

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RE: Los Angeles, November 2019 - 11/6/2019 12:07:25 PM   
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Definitely the best movie I have seen in the past years, and the best sequel to date. Only thing missing was Vangelis doing the soundtrack but must say one would not tell without knowing it.


At the first hearing I didn't liked as well and was a little disappointed because Hans Zimmer has some good soundtracks. But after listening a few times I started to liked it.

BR 2049 is a OK version, I was expecting to be much worse. But the original is still the one which glitters in the dark for me.

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RE: Los Angeles, November 2019 - 11/6/2019 12:28:29 PM   
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I don't have a clue what you folks are on about.

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RE: Los Angeles, November 2019 - 11/6/2019 1:58:27 PM   
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I don't have a clue what you folks are on about.


Blade Runner (1982) was set in the year 2019 with everything happening in November.

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RE: Los Angeles, November 2019 - 11/6/2019 2:10:48 PM   
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@VPaulus,

I´am not a fan of sequels (me thinks Alien 2, among alot others), and that happens with music aswell. For some reason, first LP´s are usually great then the bands decade, same with movies. Predator (great, Predator 2 meh, and so on...

But a sequel to Blade Runner is a very tough objective IMHO, it´s like a sequel to Dune! To pull it off with flying colors is a hard thing to do, but in this case BR 2049 I think they did a pretty good job, and as you state, it sure could have been worst! Which Iam glad is not the case. The movie is 163min long and I enjoyed every minute, another tuff task IMHO.

Nice to see folks around here with similar taste

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RE: Los Angeles, November 2019 - 11/6/2019 2:41:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: VPaulusR 2049 is a OK version, I was expecting to be much worse. But the original is still the one which glitters in the dark for me.



They could have done so much more, by staying faithful to the book...

In Philip K. Dick's story, there are hints of a whole replicants sub-society run in secret and parallel to the human one. Rick Deckart is actually arrested and brought in a Police Station run by replicants - a place where he is the aberration.

I hoped for this theme to appear in the new movie. It could have opened it to any sort of interpretations. I liked the stunning visuals, the acting and the direction, but I found the actual plot to be a bit... dunno, "anemic". A marvelous trip to the future and many memorable scenes, but without the strong, thought provoking central themes of the original.

To be clear, I bought the 4K Blue-ray edition of the movie. I felt that it was a great stylistic feat, but lacking in the pairing of visuals and themes that makes the original so strong.

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RE: Los Angeles, November 2019 - 11/6/2019 2:43:29 PM   
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I don't have a clue what you folks are on about.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1jXmJmmj3o

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RE: Los Angeles, November 2019 - 11/6/2019 2:43:36 PM   
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So... Where is my flying car?



I've seen how all y'all drive when you're just on the streets. There's no way in hell I want the average driver in the sky over my house

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RE: Los Angeles, November 2019 - 11/6/2019 3:04:38 PM   
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RE: Los Angeles, November 2019 - 11/6/2019 4:30:04 PM   
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They could have done so much more, by staying faithful to the book...

In Philip K. Dick's story, there are hints of a whole replicants sub-society run in secret and parallel to the human one. Rick Deckart is actually arrested and brought in a Police Station run by replicants - a place where he is the aberration.

I hoped for this theme to appear in the new movie. It could have opened it to any sort of interpretations. I liked the stunning visuals, the acting and the direction, but I found the actual plot to be a bit... dunno, "anemic". A marvelous trip to the future and many memorable scenes, but without the strong, thought provoking central themes of the original.

To be clear, I bought the 4K Blue-ray edition of the movie. I felt that it was a great stylistic feat, but lacking in the pairing of visuals and themes that makes the original so strong.


I believe that Denis Villeneuve intent was to be more faithful to Riddley's Scott original movie and to the original screenwriter Hampton Fancher themes than to Philip K. Dick's book.

Some of the scenes in BR 2049 seem to have been taken from the earlier scripts versions of the original BR movie, written by Hampton Fancher, that were never filmed. The first BR 2049 scene is one of those scenes.

Hampton was fired and replaced by David Peoples which then rewrote the BR script.
Maybe that's the reason why they hired Hampton for writing the BR 2049 script.

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RE: Los Angeles, November 2019 - 11/6/2019 5:47:42 PM   
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Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L52IjtToW0

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RE: Los Angeles, November 2019 - 11/6/2019 7:00:43 PM   
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Some of the scenes in BR 2049 seem to have been taken from the earlier scripts versions of the original BR movie, written by Hampton Fancher, that were never filmed. The first BR 2049 scene is one of those scenes.


I read the original script (I bought it during a vacation in NY circa 1995) and I recognised the parts that were added to BR 2049. My point re: the new movie was "Yes, but what can you tell of new i n 2017?" And the substance (again: not the style) was: not so much.

I loved the idea of the "Big Blackout" (even if it is partly stolen from "1997: Escape from New York"). However, the focus of BR 2049 is about a human race that faces its own extinction (due to climate change among other factors) and the next "Lords of the Earth", the replicants (and it is eerie to think about how much jobs are been taken, just now, by AIs and robotics - with even more in the near-mid future.)

So, there was much to talk about in a Blade Runner sequel. Instead, I felt like the movie makers decided to "play it safe", and the result was a movie strong on visuals but eerily empty in content. I mean: what was left to think about once the movie finished? For sure, not about the darkest futures towards which, right now, we are descending.

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RE: Los Angeles, November 2019 - 11/6/2019 10:47:21 PM   
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I mean: what was left to think about once the movie finished? For sure, not about the darkest futures towards which, right now, we are descending.


I agree it doesn't bring any new theme. Just emphasizes the idea that to be human is not so much a genetic question but rather the emphatic capability towards the others. The relationship between 'K' (a replicant) and Joy (an AI)... That was what the movie left with me. It might sound short, but it's powerful stuff and it's one of the big Philip K. Dick themes in some of his books.

Anyway, I'm (well not much lately) SF reader, so I can fully understand your point about substance. It could be so much more. Still it could have been a lot worse. And in this day and age... I just expect pure BS from remakes, sequels or prequels. This was not the case.

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RE: Los Angeles, November 2019 - 11/7/2019 7:51:30 AM   
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMd5_DcLNdE

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RE: Los Angeles, November 2019 - 11/8/2019 1:06:42 AM   
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I'm a big fan of the original, but I thought 2049 was a little slow and lifeless. Then The Princess Bride showed up to save the film




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