From: Glasgow, Scotland
It's a truism that one should never discuss religion or politics. And unfortunately, the "environment" has become a religion for a sizable percentage of the population, to include many of those who fund and perform research.
As for the snowflakes, I suppose that time will tell. I was pretty useless up until my mid-twenties, and am heartened that two of my formerly SJW step-daughters are slowly shifting their world view as time goes by. Every new generation can't hold a candle to those which came before. Just ask those who came before.
I used to have a subscription to World Weekly News when I was deployed in late '80s early '90s. It was great, every mail call my shipmates laughed about my papers, but they all wanted them when I was done. It was entertainment interspersed with truth (personnel knowledge of a gruesome murder in my home town across the street of my Grandparents). As far as climate change...BS...the earth cools...the earth warms. Science has proved Cooling/Warming periods for 10s of 1000s of years.
Really? I'd be interested to read the paper that was proposing that.
The world will end when the snow flake generation comes to power.
It isn't going to be pretty and I can only hope I don't live long enough to see it.
Kids care right now because it's their future at stake.
I grew up in the Cold War. I was not confident in the future then, and there was no guarantee all-out nuclear war wouldn't happen. These kids are concerned about their future, and while there is no guarantee climate change will cause an apocalypse, I can see why they're not really confident in the politics that to them seem to be ignoring the obvious hedge of changing our energy practices.
I think its great that some kids are showing they care - the plastic in the ocean is pretty frightening for example. The problem is not when they care, its when they think they know it all and only their way of caring should count. So with the bleeding hearts of Rebellion Extinction or whatever they are called. Why don't they go take up their grievances with China rather than making me late for work.... or perhaps that's too much on the difficult pile.....
There is a parallel with the cold war and the usually well meaning, but hopelessly irresponsible CND crowd. Yes sure, lets get rid of Nuclear Weapons - starting with those of the west.... because protesting in the Soviet Union is all a bit too difficult.....
- The only way to deal with large-scale pollution from developing nations with China is by leadership on the international stage. That's only going to happen with large-scale protests domestically, because elsewise industrial and economic interests will effectively "drown out" the case for a pro-environmental stance. Basically, nobody is going to stand up to the Chinese unless they know the population is behind them, due to the economic weight China has internationally.
- It's fine to mock the CND, but do you live in a target zone? I do, and would prefer not to.
FWIW, I take the position that if there's any point wherein the use of nuclear weapons is appropriate, it's already too late.
Since the end of the Cold War, the strong likelihood of additional nuclear powers is off-setting the balance of power in the global nuclear arsenal. I have some faith in the rationality of the previous "Big Five" nuclear powers (to some extent), but with developments in the Middle East, I think there needs to be international disarmament before millions die.
Why are protests the only way - and why of the type they choose to mount? Let me just remind you of what Extinction Rebellion said during the wholly unproductive, wholly pointless and wholly pathetic attempts to shut London down. This one comment sums up what I said about their vacuous, almost childlike thinking.
When those intelligent free zones stood on the trains to stop them moving ER said, we don't wish to inconvenience everyday people - we want to stop business as usual. That is why we made the decision to stop trains in the morning, to stop people getting to work, but not in the evening when people want to get home to their homes and families......
Take a second to re-read that. So, no one trying to get on a train in the morning was trying to get home having worked nights, no one was a doctor/nurse, a policeman, an ambulance driver, a fireman, a member of the armed forces, a kid fresh out of university heading for the most important job interview of their life? Their cause isn't necessarily a bad thing, their actions redefine the word pathetic.
As for CND, yes I mock them (though as said I believe many were sincere and well meaning) for - like ER above - the totally dumb way they went about things. Get rid of nuclear weapons unilaterally - starting with the west..... right.
Oh and as for "do you live in a target zone" well yes, yes I do (I'm sure London had a special place in the thoughts of Moscow ) although if nuclear holocaust erupted I don't really think any part of the UK wouldn't have been - so that's all a bit academic.
These kinds of protests are the only way because they are impossible to ignore. And it works. You're now aware of what the group is and what their message is, when you likely wouldn't have before.
As for your appeal to emotion, I've no doubt you'd have blamed Rosa Parks for delaying your bus trip in the morning, or Gandhi for putting the collectors of the salt tax out of a job.
Real, positive change when the establishment is against it requires these kinds of demonstrations, to communicate the message that the dissent won't go away. Hong Kong currently is an exceptionally good example of what these kinds of protests can do.
RE: CND - as I said, you could count on the European powers to have a degree of rationality. Less so with other nuclear nations with deeper issues. A degree of leadership and compromise is needed between the US-EU-Russia bloc before this issue lands millions turns to ashes.