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Fresh install - What patch and Utlilities i need? - 10/24/2019 6:48:23 PM   
Odin


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Hello Guys,

after long time of abstinence i want to reinstall WITPAE.

Can you tell me what Patches and other usefull stuff i need now?

I lost track somehow.

Thank you!


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RE: Fresh install - What patch and Utlilities i need? - 10/25/2019 1:16:57 AM   
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This is where i have my stuff in case i need to reinstall...

1. Ok, from a fresh install, first install the official update:

https://mega.nz/#!XtA2FQoQ!vIYMP95tbSu-84zuEfqiW9fuJ1UMljIxzl_v_QmKni0


2. After you install this, install the Beta update, in the first post click on the "Attachment (1) ". You start the game from a new shortcut on your desktop that says "War in the Pacific - Admiral's Edition (Beta)"

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3185062

3. After this, install all of the Patch 07 unofficial data scen updates by Andy Mac, those are unofficial but everybody uses them. They are made by one of the devs of the game. Install everything into the SCEN folder, NOT! the default game folder.
https://mega.nz/#!CsInUCgQ!sE_Jr_5_aYToLGAk_lc91JXcNM31wVve-b7x2oi43Pw


4. Now when your game is updated, we can install all the mods.

here are all of the Chemkids maps in a single file, first backup your ART folder (just in case):

https://mega.nz/#!2kwHlSDT!5p9q4xxtR-ut07_pDqUNc5WeNXsRiTta5_VDl-Vq5BA

5. And for the "Unified Art Mod", also unpack everything in your game folder. If something goes wrong, or you don't like it, just delete the ART folder and copy the backed up back in:

https://mega.nz/#!jhBxXICK!FvcqcgNm1Aiwx3L3Oi08G9ibtznbfU5bd1wgMRxQkyc


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RE: Fresh install - What patch and Utlilities i need? - 10/25/2019 7:16:19 AM   
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Then I would advice WITP Tracker install

And Scenario/Extended maps based on your preference...

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RE: Fresh install - What patch and Utlilities i need? - 10/25/2019 9:08:29 AM   
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Thanks guys!!

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RE: Fresh install - What patch and Utlilities i need? - 10/26/2019 5:25:33 PM   
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Good to 'see' ya. Welcome back.

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RE: Fresh install - What patch and Utlilities i need? - 10/29/2019 6:03:39 AM   
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Thank you for this! I just reinstalled after several years and this was great. Perhaps a sticky, mentioning Seabee too?

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RE: Fresh install - What patch and Utlilities i need? - 10/29/2019 3:59:24 PM   
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quote:

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Thank you for this! I just reinstalled after several years and this was great. Perhaps a sticky, mentioning Seabee too?

Seabee is the second sticky in the Tech Forum.

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RE: Fresh install - What patch and Utlilities i need? - 11/1/2019 6:51:27 PM   
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New to the game ... just purchased and installed it. Do you also recommend the install/update sequence in post 2 above for me too?

WITP Tracker too?

Anything else?

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RE: Fresh install - What patch and Utlilities i need? - 11/1/2019 7:01:24 PM   
Odin


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quote:

ORIGINAL: amon15

This is where i have my stuff in case i need to reinstall...

1. Ok, from a fresh install, first install the official update:

https://mega.nz/#!XtA2FQoQ!vIYMP95tbSu-84zuEfqiW9fuJ1UMljIxzl_v_QmKni0


2. After you install this, install the Beta update, in the first post click on the "Attachment (1) ". You start the game from a new shortcut on your desktop that says "War in the Pacific - Admiral's Edition (Beta)"

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3185062

3. After this, install all of the Patch 07 unofficial data scen updates by Andy Mac, those are unofficial but everybody uses them. They are made by one of the devs of the game. Install everything into the SCEN folder, NOT! the default game folder.
https://mega.nz/#!CsInUCgQ!sE_Jr_5_aYToLGAk_lc91JXcNM31wVve-b7x2oi43Pw


4. Now when your game is updated, we can install all the mods.

here are all of the Chemkids maps in a single file, first backup your ART folder (just in case):

https://mega.nz/#!2kwHlSDT!5p9q4xxtR-ut07_pDqUNc5WeNXsRiTta5_VDl-Vq5BA

5. And for the "Unified Art Mod", also unpack everything in your game folder. If something goes wrong, or you don't like it, just delete the ART folder and copy the backed up back in:

https://mega.nz/#!jhBxXICK!FvcqcgNm1Aiwx3L3Oi08G9ibtznbfU5bd1wgMRxQkyc



About the Maps, i like to Play with out hexes, but what should i choose...stock or extendend?

And what About this yamamoto Things?



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RE: Fresh install - What patch and Utlilities i need? - 11/1/2019 8:21:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Odin


quote:

ORIGINAL: amon15

This is where i have my stuff in case i need to reinstall...

1. Ok, from a fresh install, first install the official update:

https://mega.nz/#!XtA2FQoQ!vIYMP95tbSu-84zuEfqiW9fuJ1UMljIxzl_v_QmKni0


2. After you install this, install the Beta update, in the first post click on the "Attachment (1) ". You start the game from a new shortcut on your desktop that says "War in the Pacific - Admiral's Edition (Beta)"

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3185062

3. After this, install all of the Patch 07 unofficial data scen updates by Andy Mac, those are unofficial but everybody uses them. They are made by one of the devs of the game. Install everything into the SCEN folder, NOT! the default game folder.
https://mega.nz/#!CsInUCgQ!sE_Jr_5_aYToLGAk_lc91JXcNM31wVve-b7x2oi43Pw


4. Now when your game is updated, we can install all the mods.

here are all of the Chemkids maps in a single file, first backup your ART folder (just in case):

https://mega.nz/#!2kwHlSDT!5p9q4xxtR-ut07_pDqUNc5WeNXsRiTta5_VDl-Vq5BA

5. And for the "Unified Art Mod", also unpack everything in your game folder. If something goes wrong, or you don't like it, just delete the ART folder and copy the backed up back in:

https://mega.nz/#!jhBxXICK!FvcqcgNm1Aiwx3L3Oi08G9ibtznbfU5bd1wgMRxQkyc



About the Maps, i like to Play with out hexes, but what should i choose...stock or extendend?

And what About this yamamoto Things?


The extended map includes a few more bases around Singapore and between Karachi and Aden. I don't know other details but I know some user developed scenarios like Da Big Babes require the extended map. I am not sure if it will work with stock scenarios since the extra bases are not in the stock scenario database.
The other choice is between "Stacking Limits" and "Few Stacking Limits". The former puts a limit on the number of troops in every single land hex, while the latter only has stacking limits on islands/atolls. If the map PWhex file is updated properly either map will work with any scenario.

If you prefer to play "without hexes", that may just be a matter of using the F6 key to turn off the highlighted hex borders (but there is a thin line left for the border) or adopting a map that just shows the faint dot at the center of the hex.
Just understand that maps have two components - the landscape artwork which the game engine ignores and the data files that the game engine uses to know what is in the hex - road segments, rail segments, hex side geography, hex topography, malaria, cold or temperate zone, stacking limits, etc. You can choose any of the four versions of hex data files (stock or extended, stacking or no stacking) and then apply any artwork that pleases your eye and matches the base locations for the map data.

There are "Read me" files for the various map versions out there that explain what to do to install them in your art folder. Just make sure you make a backup copy of the art directory before changing anything.

< Message edited by BBfanboy -- 11/1/2019 8:22:56 PM >


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RE: Fresh install - What patch and Utlilities i need? - 11/1/2019 8:31:14 PM   
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I would not recommend the chemkid maps for a new player. They are beautiful, and eventually they can be a nice enhancer, but there are problems. Among other things, you can't always tell the difference between deep ocean and shallow, which really makes a difference for submarine ops (among others). Similar issue with Swamp and Jungle. Does it matter if you are defending or moving through one vs the other? Yes. Can you toggle the text which tells you the difference? Sure, but that's just one more thing a new player should not be having to worry about, especially since all that's needed to see the difference is the Mark-1 eyeball when using the standard map.

Edit: When it comes to the AI and database enhancements, the Patch 07 update is much better than "as-delivered", and certainly good enough for a starting player, but there have been additional improvements and more small scenario options to choose from.

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RE: Fresh install - What patch and Utlilities i need? - 11/1/2019 8:37:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kull

I would not recommend the chemkid maps for a new player. They are beautiful, and eventually they can be a nice enhancer, but there are problems. Among other things, you can't always tell the difference between deep ocean and shallow, which really makes a difference for submarine ops (among others). Similar issue with Swamp and Jungle. Does it matter if you are defending or moving through one vs the other? Yes. Can you toggle the text which tells you the difference? Sure, but that's just one more thing a new player should not be having to worry about, especially since all that's needed to see the difference is the Mark-1 eyeball when using the standard map.

Edit: When it comes to the AI and database enhancements, the Patch 07 update is much better than "as-delivered", and certainly good enough for a starting player, but there have been additional improvements and more small scenario options to choose from.
Thanks! Will hold off on that one then (for now).


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RE: Fresh install - What patch and Utlilities i need? - 11/1/2019 9:02:48 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Professor Chaos

Thank you for this! I just reinstalled after several years and this was great. Perhaps a sticky, mentioning Seabee too?


Just to emphasize, but Seabee is pretty much mandatory for new players. Getting AE to work properly in Windows 10, to say nothing of figuring out all the esoteric switches needed for even basic functionality (which are different from one system to another), can be an absolute nightmare.

Seriously - unless you are a masochist, you need this utility.

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RE: Fresh install - What patch and Utlilities i need? - 11/1/2019 9:32:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kull

quote:

ORIGINAL: Professor Chaos

Thank you for this! I just reinstalled after several years and this was great. Perhaps a sticky, mentioning Seabee too?


Just to emphasize, but Seabee is pretty much mandatory for new players. Getting AE to work properly in Windows 10, to say nothing of figuring out all the esoteric switches needed for even basic functionality (which are different from one system to another), can be an absolute nightmare.

Seriously - unless you are a masochist, you need this utility.


Thanks for the help Friends.

Iam not completely new, but i don´t want to mess up things Right from the beginning.

Lets forget the maps first..i tried to start WITPAE on Win10 and after the credits Picture, it goes to Desktop.

I have installed it on my Laptop with Win 8.1 and there was no problem.



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RE: Fresh install - What patch and Utlilities i need? - 11/1/2019 9:53:41 PM   
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Also have Problem with seabee….it creates a shortcut but after start it tells me "Can´t find PW data"....i have seen that before but i cant remember...

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RE: Fresh install - What patch and Utlilities i need? - 11/1/2019 10:23:11 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Odin

Also have Problem with seabee….it creates a shortcut but after start it tells me "Can´t find PW data"....i have seen that before but i cant remember...


start reading down from here:

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=4562974

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RE: Fresh install - What patch and Utlilities i need? - 11/1/2019 10:24:31 PM   
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Update: Everything alright, it works...i am back to the blue screen game!

Thanks all!

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RE: Fresh install - What patch and Utlilities i need? - 11/8/2019 8:18:56 PM   
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Ok. Sorry guys. I too am having to install from scratch again. I understand all the great clear instructions above, but can I ask - is the 'official' beta (1126a) not needed between 1124 and the 'unofficial' beta (1126b)? Thanks.

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RE: Fresh install - What patch and Utlilities i need? - 11/8/2019 10:00:57 PM   
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Ok. Sorry guys. I too am having to install from scratch again. I understand all the great clear instructions above, but can I ask - is the 'official' beta (1126a) not needed between 1124 and the 'unofficial' beta (1126b)? Thanks.

It is not needed and it is not official either. 1124 is the last official patch.

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RE: Fresh install - What patch and Utlilities i need? - 11/9/2019 10:40:46 AM   
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Thanks.

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RE: Fresh install - What patch and Utlilities i need? - 11/27/2019 10:45:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: amon15

This is where i have my stuff in case i need to reinstall...

1. Ok, from a fresh install, first install the official update:

https://mega.nz/#!XtA2FQoQ!vIYMP95tbSu-84zuEfqiW9fuJ1UMljIxzl_v_QmKni0


2. After you install this, install the Beta update, in the first post click on the "Attachment (1) ". You start the game from a new shortcut on your desktop that says "War in the Pacific - Admiral's Edition (Beta)"

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3185062

3. After this, install all of the Patch 07 unofficial data scen updates by Andy Mac, those are unofficial but everybody uses them. They are made by one of the devs of the game. Install everything into the SCEN folder, NOT! the default game folder.
https://mega.nz/#!CsInUCgQ!sE_Jr_5_aYToLGAk_lc91JXcNM31wVve-b7x2oi43Pw


4. Now when your game is updated, we can install all the mods.

here are all of the Chemkids maps in a single file, first backup your ART folder (just in case):

https://mega.nz/#!2kwHlSDT!5p9q4xxtR-ut07_pDqUNc5WeNXsRiTta5_VDl-Vq5BA

5. And for the "Unified Art Mod", also unpack everything in your game folder. If something goes wrong, or you don't like it, just delete the ART folder and copy the backed up back in:

https://mega.nz/#!jhBxXICK!FvcqcgNm1Aiwx3L3Oi08G9ibtznbfU5bd1wgMRxQkyc




This is a great way to get new players up to gaming speed.

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RE: Fresh install - What patch and Utlilities i need? - 11/27/2019 11:11:22 PM   
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Could someone be a bit more specific on what stuff goes in what folders, and what folders to back up first?

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RE: Fresh install - What patch and Utlilities i need? - 11/28/2019 3:11:06 PM   
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Make a copy to a safe location of all folders you are about to add changes to.
If it is art you are upgrading, copy and paste the game Art folder to a safe location.

The links above replace entire folders, and are an easy way to upgrade the game artwork.

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RE: Fresh install - What patch and Utlilities i need? - 11/28/2019 10:54:01 PM   
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Specifically asking about the map mod, because that one doesn't seem to match any folders in the game directory?

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RE: Fresh install - What patch and Utlilities i need? - 11/28/2019 11:41:44 PM   
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RE: Fresh install - What patch and Utlilities i need? - 11/28/2019 11:45:04 PM   
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The maps are in the Art folder, and to be honest, I wouldn't mess changing them.
They don't show some details that are needed, like shallow water areas.

So go ahead at your own risk.
Right now I would just focus on learning how the game plays.

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