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Too addictive - 10/8/2019 11:25:29 PM   
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So how are they going to actually try to hold this company liable?
Its not a game most play here but it is relevant to gaming in general
My grand kids play this game when they come by they ask me why don't you play Fortnite Grandpa? "Its the best game ever they say". I've got addicted gran kids.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2019/10/07/fortnite-producer-epic-games-lawsuit-says-addictive-as-cocaine/3900236002/

Employing Psychologist seems a profitable venture but maybe immoral to hook young children. Is this the nicotine of gaming?

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RE: Too addictive - 10/9/2019 1:15:59 AM   
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It's free and they've got a quarter of a billion players, so a jury *might* just believe the plaintiffs to an extent.

However, a settlement of any magnitude would set a precedent that would be the beginning of the end of online gaming and potentially any commercially successful game, so that's not very likely.

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RE: Too addictive - 10/9/2019 3:07:09 AM   
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The new thing is to remove blame for a person's lack of responsibility and attach it to someone else. In this case parents refuse to believe they are responsible for the children's actions and are not responsible to police their children's activities. It's someone else's fault. Maybe make a buck or two off it to boot.

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RE: Too addictive - 10/9/2019 3:58:20 AM   
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If it wasn't Fortnite, they would have come up with another game. There have been lawsuits against Rockstar Games and their Grand Theft Auto series. Did anything come out of them?

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RE: Too addictive - 10/9/2019 5:04:00 PM   
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quote:

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The new thing is to remove blame for a person's lack of responsibility and attach it to someone else. In this case parents refuse to believe they are responsible for the children's actions and are not responsible to police their children's activities. It's someone else's fault. Maybe make a buck or two off it to boot.


Sadly, this applies to more and more people, and more and more situations, every day.

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RE: Too addictive - 10/9/2019 10:22:09 PM   
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When I visited Okinawa I was amazed to see cigarette and beer vending machines on the street for anyone who had change.
The Japanese apparently think the state is not responsible for raising your children.

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RE: Too addictive - 10/9/2019 11:54:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rebel Yell

It's free and they've got a quarter of a billion players, so a jury *might* just believe the plaintiffs to an extent.

However, a settlement of any magnitude would set a precedent that would be the beginning of the end of online gaming and potentially any commercially successful game, so that's not very likely.



Its free!! they must make money somehow.

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RE: Too addictive - 10/9/2019 11:57:59 PM   
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Its free!! they must make money somehow.


Microtransactions.

If 10% of their customer base spends $10 a year, they make $250,000,000 a year.

I suspect the aggregate is more than that.

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RE: Too addictive - 10/10/2019 12:55:51 AM   
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Responsibility? That word is still relevant? Wow, it's everyone else's fault these days, from cigarettes, texting, smart phones,vaping, schools. I could go on and on. It's never your fault or responsibility. It's terrible

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RE: Too addictive - 10/10/2019 1:25:21 AM   
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Wasnt there some "big" movement to sue the makers of Everquest about 15 years ago? It was too addictive and ruining peoples lives or some such crap.

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RE: Too addictive - 10/10/2019 2:25:58 PM   
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quote:

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The new thing is to remove blame for a person's lack of responsibility and attach it to someone else. In this case parents refuse to believe they are responsible for the children's actions and are not responsible to police their children's activities. It's someone else's fault. Maybe make a buck or two off it to boot.

I agree!

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RE: Too addictive - 10/10/2019 6:34:23 PM   
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quote:

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The new thing is to remove blame for a person's lack of responsibility and attach it to someone else. In this case parents refuse to believe they are responsible for the children's actions and are not responsible to police their children's activities. It's someone else's fault. Maybe make a buck or two off it to boot.

In some countries governments have issued restrictions for time spent with video games. It isn't limited to only writing laws, but games and game services (equivalents of Steam) can have timers that measure time the games have been running and close the games when time runs up. Or so I recall reading from somewhere, so don't take my word alone for it. If game addiction becomes too severe problem for too many people, is this the solution?

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RE: Too addictive - 10/10/2019 6:40:35 PM   
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Well heard it all now. All I can say. What a waste of NHS money for starters. I think the government hates the fact they are losing lots of their public to games from the brain washing TV. I never heard of diagnosis for TV addicts..did you?

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RE: Too addictive - 10/10/2019 8:52:28 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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The new thing is to remove blame for a person's lack of responsibility and attach it to someone else. In this case parents refuse to believe they are responsible for the children's actions and are not responsible to police their children's activities. It's someone else's fault. Maybe make a buck or two off it to boot.

In some countries governments have issued restrictions for time spent with video games. It isn't limited to only writing laws, but games and game services (equivalents of Steam) can have timers that measure time the games have been running and close the games when time runs up. Or so I recall reading from somewhere, so don't take my word alone for it. If game addiction becomes too severe problem for too many people, is this the solution?


Do they put limits on alcohol consumption, tobacco consumption, food consumption, water usage, time at the television, amount of time spent reading books or a million other potentially addictive behaviors? Not bloody likely. If someone has an addictive personality they will find some outlet for it. Games are simply an easy target.

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RE: Too addictive - 10/19/2019 1:23:53 PM   
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Yet it's okay to be addicted to computer strategy games then?

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RE: Too addictive - 10/19/2019 1:51:43 PM   
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Yet it's okay to be addicted to computer strategy games then?


Considering how drugs are being made legal across the globe I guess it is.

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RE: Too addictive - 10/19/2019 4:53:33 PM   
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I remember Everquest, then World of Warcraft. Both of those games had people letting their kids die while they were playing, losing their jobs because they played too much, kids even committed suicide, I believe. etc.

If they rule against the company, let's just have everyone keep their parents until they are 90 years old. And if your parents die, then you will be assigned to be adopted by someone 90 years old.

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RE: Too addictive - 10/19/2019 5:17:40 PM   
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Go back and review the experiments that the National Institute of Mental Health performed on rats (poor lab rats!). They found that placing an electrode into the supposed pleasure center of the brain and giving the rat access to a button to stimulate it created addicted rats to stimulating their brains. They stopped grooming themselves, reduced their food intake (some died) stopped sex, all to stimulate that spot.

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RE: Too addictive - 10/19/2019 10:43:28 PM   
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Kids don't go to school due to addictions with the phone and Xbox

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RE: Too addictive - 10/20/2019 8:45:39 PM   
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Kids don't go to school due to addictions with the phone and Xbox

Even without those they would find other excuses not to go, like Nintendo 3DS, PlayStation 4, and bullying. Not too long ago my cousin killed himself because of bullying. Don't go to school ever again.

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