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Origination of Supplies - 10/6/2019 9:21:22 PM   
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Para 15.5 Automatic Convoys in the WitPAE Manual states that certain ships (AK, TK, etc) can be set up to automatically bring in supplies from Osaka San Francisco or Karachi.

I am playing the Guadalcanal scenario.

My questions:

Which bases, if any are "daily allotment" bases that will be replenished without the Auto Convoy system? Is this a function of Port Size. (Para 15.0 Logistics)

In the Auto Convoy System as an Allied Player, how do I have access to San Francisco to designate these ships? Can I allocate ships already in the play area instead?

If in fact there are daily allotment bases is this a function of Port Size or is there simply a list somewhere I can't find Thanks in Advance

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RE: Origination of Supplies - 10/7/2019 12:25:53 AM   
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Auto convoy is designed to relieve some 'clicking' to setup convoys behind your lines. In the small scenarios, GUA especially, the entire area is front lines. Technically it will work, but you will end up losing more xAK's to enemy intervention than you can afford.

An allied player can answer more definitively, as a predominately IJ player I don't use the auto convoy. I believe allied players will use it in the GC scenarios later in the war when the IJ subs are gone and they confidently rule the seas like from LA -> PH and SF -> Anchorage.

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RE: Origination of Supplies - 10/7/2019 12:27:14 AM   
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PS: you may wish to re-post this question in the general forum area or in the War Room. This area doesn't get the traffic the others do.

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RE: Origination of Supplies - 10/7/2019 12:28:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jmolyson

Para 15.5 Automatic Convoys in the WitPAE Manual states that certain ships (AK, TK, etc) can be set up to automatically bring in supplies from Osaka San Francisco or Karachi.

I am playing the Guadalcanal scenario.

My questions:

Which bases, if any are "daily allotment" bases that will be replenished without the Auto Convoy system? Is this a function of Port Size. (Para 15.0 Logistics)

In the Auto Convoy System as an Allied Player, how do I have access to San Francisco to designate these ships? Can I allocate ships already in the play area instead?

If in fact there are daily allotment bases is this a function of Port Size or is there simply a list somewhere I can't find Thanks in Advance


As PaxMondo points out this thread is in the wrong location. It isn't just a question of traffic but very much one of subsequent data retrieval.

You are confusing several different game concepts. Suggest you read the Logistics 101 thread:

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2878790&mpage=1&key=Logistics%2C101

to start getting the concepts disentangled.

1. Section 15.5 of the manual deals only with the Auto Convoy system. That system is not available in the small scale scenarios. There is no San Francisco in scenario #4 (Guadalcanal), ergo the system is not available in this scenario. You can easily confirm this by looking at the buttons on the top bar which has an empty space to the right of the "Industry Management" button.

2. Where the Auto Convoy system is available, you access it by clicking on its button in the top bar or hitting the short cut key "H". Then you can implement it as described in s.15.5 of the manual.

3. The Auto Convoy system does not provide a daily allotment of anything to anywhere. It is entirely demand driven and applies only to bases specifically put into operation by the player, using ship assets specifically set aside for the task by the player. Travel paths are entirely chosen by the AI and whilst there is some logic to take into account enemy force dispositions, this is limited and the optimal safest path is not always chosen.

4. The daily auto supply/fuel allocation has nothing to do with the Auto Supply system, nor port size, nor player actions. It is entirely determined by the scenario designer. Its operation and display is described in s.9.1 of the manual (specifically on page 205). Where present it provides a daily allotment only to the original owner of the base.

5. In scenario #4, the only Allied bases with an auto daily allotment are Sydney and Noumea.

6. Continuous Supply is explained in s.6.2.11 of the manual. This is different from the Auto Convoy system. It is available in all scenarios. It is not demand driven and will continue to deposit cargo, irrespective of spoilage or priority considerations, until altered by the player. Travel path can be specifically determined (with waypoints included) by the player.

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RE: Origination of Supplies - 10/7/2019 4:32:09 PM   
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Thank you Pax. That helped me better understand the process.

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RE: Origination of Supplies - 10/7/2019 4:33:47 PM   
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Thanks for the detailed reply.

I definitely want to get untangled and do the logistics right, and your info ill help.

Joe Molyson

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RE: Origination of Supplies - 10/8/2019 12:06:37 AM   
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Alfred is our resident expert on all of the rules and processes. Save everyone of his responses and file them. They are all gems.

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RE: Origination of Supplies - 10/8/2019 6:39:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

Alfred is our resident expert on all of the rules and processes. Save everyone of his responses and file them. They are all gems.


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RE: Origination of Supplies - 10/8/2019 12:37:20 PM   
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Please note Western Hub of Autoconvoy system is actually Colombo not Karachi was changed after manual was complete

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RE: Origination of Supplies - 10/10/2019 8:10:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Kursk1943


quote:

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

Alfred is our resident expert on all of the rules and processes. Save everyone of his responses and file them. They are all gems.


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-Have you found any gems?
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