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Tobruk 41 Tournament Open for Entries - 9/12/2019 6:04:18 PM   
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Enter by Sept 30 to play in Round 1. ...............................>

to enter, send me an email via these forums (by clicking my name tag thing on the left).

Most current information is in the tournament update thread

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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/12/2019 7:33:31 PM   
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I am interested in this which version of the scenario are you planning on using?

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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/12/2019 9:49:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: comte

I am interested in this which version of the scenario are you planning on using?


Got you down, we'll be playing [a scene to be determined]

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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/12/2019 10:59:03 PM   
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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/13/2019 1:02:55 AM   
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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/13/2019 3:02:06 AM   
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Count me in. I don't mind which side I play at first and whoever wants to play
me just let me know.

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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/13/2019 9:31:54 AM   
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Am up for it.

If you are using a Swiss system it shouldn't matter how many players want to participate. I used to play in the World Championship table top wargames and we would have 4 rounds of games over the weekend. Typically there could be 30 or so players participating and by round 3 and 4 the rankings were sorting themselves out with the top players all playing each other.
What might help to differentiate the results would be to have more variation in the scores possible for each player rather than from 0 to 3. Maybe something like 10 for a maximum win down to 0 for a total loss.

So in the system we used on the second round the #1 player would play the #2 player, #3 vs #4 and so on.
By the third round there would be some matches not eligible as they had played before, so you might get #1 vs #3 and #2 vs #4 and so on. So the higher ranking would always play the next highest ranking eligible player.
Perhaps with TOAW you could allow rematches if they were playing the opposite sides.

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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/13/2019 2:25:03 PM   
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I'll play. :)

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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/13/2019 3:19:32 PM   
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Great! LoL I forgot that Swiss can have as many as you want.

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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/13/2019 6:39:16 PM   
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Taking entries until Oct. 1 sounds good to me. It will give me a chance to do the reading which will certainly be required to not get pasted by this group. I saw the scenario was being worked on but I haven't looked at it yet. And more the merrier.

as for my two cents on the others
Adv rules = yes
new supply=no (unless the scenario is designed around it and it might be I don't know. Play testers would know)
New Turn rules= I prefer off usually but again, this scenario might play better with it. Grabbing initiative is a good thing and if its built into the scenario this can add a new element. It seems this usually is confusing on how to plan for it however. In other words, how to grab that second turn on purpose as part of the plan I have not mastered. That doesn't mean it shouldn't be in the tournament however if it makes sense and I just don't know.
Scenario variability=on

Thanks for organizing this. I was thinking about a tournament too and then that's as far a I got.
I will play anyway even if there's disagreement on start rules.

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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/13/2019 7:19:23 PM   
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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/13/2019 7:36:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mdanz

I saw the scenario was being worked on ....



scenario TBD now. See "important update" thread for suggestions pending


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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/13/2019 8:34:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hellen_slith

From what I could gather from the manual, the "New Turn Rules" seem to be aimed at smoothing out certain advantages / disadvantages of game calculations that used to be run only at "end of turn" in III and earlier versions, rather than at "end of move" in TOAW4 with new rules on, so I thought it would be fairer to leave them on.

For the supply, I think "old" supply rules would be best b/c that will (I think) tend to make the boards more "even" (thus giving everyone as near the same supply aspects as everyone else, and also simplifying that supply aspect for those of us [like me LoL] that are not supply experts).

Scenario variability will have to be on b/c of the game events that are involved.


Note that the scenario has most rules preset as shown. Players can, of course, override those presets, though.

Two rules (Variable Initiative and New Density Rules) were too new and so not set yet. But, if the scenario is played PBEM, Variable Initiative doesn't matter. New Density Rules should be used. There is no preset for Trusted PBEM, but, for a tournament, I would turn that OFF.




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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/13/2019 9:49:55 PM   
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I was thinking high supply.
Leave new supply rules on.
The new turn rules I still don't understand but I think I was thinking about variable initiative.
And I WAS thinking this was the expanded one (thx for clarification) but still sounds fun.
And the hell with more people and Oct.
Lets play

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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/13/2019 10:09:14 PM   
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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/13/2019 10:28:53 PM   
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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/13/2019 11:47:43 PM   
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I am tempted to join but I have lot on my plate plus a new project. 17 turns does sound fun.

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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/14/2019 12:23:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Zovs

I am tempted to join but I have lot on my plate plus a new project. 17 turns does sound fun.


Always welcome to join! The more the merrier! I am estimating about three or four days (maximum) for each player to make a move. That's a pretty good "run rate" to ensure a games complete and rounds are finished w/in the three month per round time frame.

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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/14/2019 12:37:12 AM   
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Ok sign me up you twisted my arm.

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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/14/2019 12:40:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Zovs

Ok sign me up you twisted my arm.

That's the spirit!

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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/14/2019 7:38:12 AM   
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I must make a test as I never tried it.
But you can take me on.

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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/14/2019 11:29:11 AM   
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Super! OK, adding you to the brackets. We've got seven now, need one more for eight ... eight, do I hear eight? :)

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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/14/2019 4:08:18 PM   
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How about we all throw in a hundred bucks for the winner..?

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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/14/2019 4:43:49 PM   
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LoL Y'all must be rich!

About all I can offer is a digital award, maybe some type of digital medal like the Iron Cross.

We'll call it ... the Bob Cross Cross!

Or maybe Matrix / Slitherine can toss in a free game for the winner.

We can dream!




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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/15/2019 5:29:56 PM   
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Does it matter if we use PBEM or the new PBEM++ system?

Thoughts?

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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/15/2019 5:31:44 PM   
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Also for some reason when I set up and tried starting The Next War 1979 scenario (the default) it is currently frozen. I noticed this early this year with this scenario. It seems to freeze up or cause a CTD for some reason.

Will report back if it CTD again for me.

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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/15/2019 5:35:01 PM   
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I think Mr. Cross suggested taking the PBEM plus plus option off (my plus key doesn't work). It doesn't matter to me, but I wouldn't play on the server thing though, easier to play using email. I think you can email cpt flam by clicking his name...then he can reply and send you his email?

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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/15/2019 5:37:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Zovs

Also for some reason when I set up and tried starting The Next War 1979 scenario (the default) it is currently frozen. I noticed this early this year with this scenario. It seems to freeze up or cause a CTD for some reason.

Will report back if it CTD again for me.


That is weird. I haven't had any problems with it.

I have a couple test games going, all copacetic

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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/15/2019 5:38:29 PM   
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I don't mind either way (online or pbem traditional) but currently The Next War is crashing on me. Anyone else notice this?

It just wont start up. Seems like a a scenario issue.

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RE: Proposed Tournament: The Next War 1979 - 9/15/2019 5:46:50 PM   
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[edited for clarity]

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