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RE: EvK (Axis) vs. mssm45 (Soviets) - 5/31/2020 5:02:39 PM   
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Leningrad is encircled again, but apparently it is a supply source for the Axis as well, so this isn't a problem.


Is that because it is on the coast/port and is accessible to supply by sea or organic to Leningrad itself?

[question probably betrays that I am a DC noob - apologies]

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RE: EvK (Axis) vs. mssm45 (Soviets) - 5/31/2020 5:08:05 PM   
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Possible. Leningrad generates a little bit of supply for Soviet units encircled there. So it could also be a bug because no one thought that Axis units could be encircled in Leningrad at some point. So I am not sure if this is intended by the developer or not.


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RE: EvK (Axis) vs. mssm45 (Soviets) - 6/12/2020 7:37:56 PM   
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Great AAR

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RE: EvK (Axis) vs. mssm45 (Soviets) - 8/14/2020 10:34:55 PM   
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@Richard: Thank you!

It turns out the Soviets are in Karelia with force. The wall before Leningrad is supported by Zhukov and there is not possibility to dig out troops with 90% defence bonus in forests with deep entrenchment. WW1 there.
Little Soviet activity in AGC area, but they continue to press around Odessa. The offensive is a major threat.

AGN: Additional Finnish forces sent to Karelia.
AGC: Small offensive near Kalinin. Mostly because I have enough fuel to and no other use for PG2. PG4 takes Ryazan and flips hexagons.
AGS: PG1 turns South in a desperate attempt to stop the Soviet attack along the black Sea.
Infantry readiness is the problem Nr. 1 to me. It is low and doesn't want to recover. The Soviets after their attack have better Readiness than my Infantry after their logistics phase.







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RE: EvK (Axis) vs. mssm45 (Soviets) - 8/14/2020 10:50:16 PM   
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Soviets continue to push in Karelia. Minor reshuffling of forces in front of AGC.
AGS offensive continues, encircling Axis minor divisions.

AGN: More reinforcements for Karelia.
AGC: Kalinin offensive continues for no justifiable reason. At this point I consider the game pretty much lost: The PP drain from the Finnish units in Leningrad across the no-move-line resulted in bad relations and a disorganized army and supply due to missed decisions. Coupled with the terrible infantry readiness recovery (probably due to leaving armies on Blitzkrieg posture, haven't bothered to understand readiness mechanics in detail yet) means that I won't be able to get near Moscow/Rostov, and I eveng et pushed back near Odessa. Therefore, I to try and rush Gorki. At this point I point I didn't know if taking the city is still immediate game over like under older versions, but it is pretty much the only option left.
If the Soviets are not able to spawn a garrison or army within one turn, Gorki will fall.


AGS: PG1 races South to stop the Soviet attack along the black Sea. I repeatedly try to assault the road to Odessa at various places, but Soviet units are surprisingly stubborn and the Axis divisions have lost their bite. The situation is desperate here.





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RE: EvK (Axis) vs. mssm45 (Soviets) - 8/14/2020 11:06:42 PM   
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Soviets encircle Finnish units in Karelia. Miscalculation on my part, I didn't expect them to be able to move so far in one turn. Minor reshuffling in front of AGC. As expected the Gorki push is not cut off.
AGS sees continuation of the Soviet offensive, two minor Axis divisions destroyed.


AGN: Even more reinforcements to Karelia.
AGC: Kalinin offensive called off, nothing to gain here. Guderian takes Gorki, only defended by the Central front HQ and the STAVKA HQ which are both destroyed and Stalin is killed, resulting in Axis victory. Apparently, the Soviets were not able to spawn a garrison in time. My opponents commented that a panic attack made this impossible. Stalin's panic is quite understandable given the proximity of Axis forces.

AGS: PG1 continues to attack South along the Dnepr. More attacks on the street to Odessa fail.





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RE: EvK (Axis) vs. mssm45 (Soviets) - 8/14/2020 11:11:15 PM   
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Final statistics
Note the immense PP loss from theatre boundary violations.




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RE: EvK (Axis) vs. mssm45 (Soviets) - 8/14/2020 11:50:08 PM   
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Concluding thoughts
Thanks to mssm45/Belgavox for the game and to Erzac for consulting.

What went well: I think I did a good job with operations during the first phase of the game, resulting in a quick advance. Most noteworthy is the double-pincer attack of AGC from T8 onwards that forced the Soviets to give up significant ground and resulted in a sizeable pocket, and the T8/T9 and T14 pockets of AGS. The unusual attack from behind on Leningrad, when the Soviets guarded it only with a HQ, and the raid on Gorky successfully caught the enemy by surprise.
What did not go so well: I hadn't and haven't sufficiently understood the readiness mechanics and my planning didn't take infantry readiness into account until it was too late. Crossing the lower Dnepr into the swamps immobilized multiple infantry divisions during a critical point in the game. I suppose that the readiness plunge was caused by fatigue resulting from not switching to sustained offensive in time.
Capturing Leningrad was a good coup-de-main, but I should have retreated from the city or should have allowed the Soviets to cut the city off permanently to avoid the massive PP penalty. Had the game continued, the lost PP would have been a major problem.
Not taking Odessa may have been an okish decision as it kept momentum, but I underestimated the Soviet counterattack ability and reacted to slow and uncoordinated.

What my opponent did well (from my perspective): Overall good unit manoeuvring. Created unbreakable wall-of-steel in front of Leningrad and Moscow. Blowing-up of bridges was excellently timed in AGN and especially AGC during T4/T5/T6. Congratulations for spotting my weakness in the South and for executing a very effective counterattack.
What my opponent didn't do well: Leaving Leningrad open to attack and not having something to defend Gorki (attention to detail). IMO without these inaccuracies, it would have likely been a secure Soviet win all other things being equal. Exploiting these things was a bit shady but its war after all.

Comments on the game DC:B: Fine game, I especially like the focus on operations and the even distribution of attention-to-detail to the different mechanics. I don't like some rules:
-the 2k default fuel use of Blitzkrieg posture. Instead, Blitzkrieg posture should result in increased fuel cost when (and only when) the units are moving. The rule as-is is binary and weird. If you get 2001 units of fuel a turn, Blitzkrieg will reduce the amount to 1 available, completely immobilizing your mobile forces.
-there should be the ability to get additional corps HQs with a card. The Axis has a small number of big armies, resulting in poor HQ coverage. The Soviets have more smaller armies and thus an unjustified advantage with C&C as the Axis don't has access to corps.
-I don't like the fact that the Soviets can build walls-of-steel that can't be broken already in August. From my understanding, the Axis was quite capable to break through at almost any point in summer 1941 (but not at every point)
-Axis ability to advance/supply fuel seems slightly too big during July/August, resulting in unhistorically fast advance of mobile units during this time

Thanks to all who followed and commented on this AAR.

Regards
EvK


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RE: EvK (Axis) vs. mssm45 (Soviets) - 8/15/2020 7:40:38 AM   
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@EVK Congratulations :)

I believe that Germans can't afford the PP penalty if the Finns cross the border to take Leningrad. My only regret is that it somehow twist the game flow so I should have defended it just to preserve the natural game path.

Odessa, I love to defend it ... it's a real pain for the Axis ... and I arrived just one hex from Bucharest.

I had a paranoia episode the turn before Gorki was captured. I should have added a garrison there earlier.

Regarding the game, I love it and I wish that it would extend further in 42.

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RE: EvK (Axis) vs. mssm45 (Soviets) - 8/20/2020 11:27:13 PM   
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Thank you!

You are right that I wasn't able to afford the PP drain.

Under the assumption that you can't spawn new armies in a non-Gorky-connected city (not sure if it is this way), I believe ignoring Odessa was the right decision to keep momentum, but I didn't react properly to your counterattack and had too low readiness which indeed made Odessa a major problem.





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