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Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/1/2019 2:37:55 AM   
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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/1/2019 3:25:24 AM   
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Aussies 5-0 and then anything better is a bonus.

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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/1/2019 3:03:46 PM   
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After the second session and aussie selection 3 nil England. Six changes from the last test which won. Bancroft before Harris. Harris has 2 things that Bancroft doesn't, a better average, a clean record sheet and to chuck in a third a test century.

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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/1/2019 9:39:40 PM   
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Recover to 284, wow. I went to bed at 8-122 thinking my 3-1 prediction was looking pretty sad. Can't wait till tonight's session.

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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/1/2019 11:47:20 PM   
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Anderson's injury is a blow. I still think/hope England will win.

I'm going to predict 3-2 to England.

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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/6/2019 7:58:12 AM   
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The Australian bowlers look really good and England look pathetic.

It might be a tough series but I hope we can grow some balls and beat these antipodeans.



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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/6/2019 10:09:31 AM   
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Can't believe England think Moeen Ali is the best spinner in the land. Grade cricketers can bowl a better length an he can!!

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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/6/2019 4:44:10 PM   
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First rule of boxing; never bet on the white guy*

First rule of sport generally; never bet on an England/Scotland/Wales/Northern Ireland/British guy/girl/team







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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/6/2019 9:36:48 PM   
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Aus 1 - Eng 0

On to Lords...

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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/10/2019 3:42:03 AM   
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It was a very interesting game. This is why I've always thought Test Cricket (the version that can go for up to five days) is the best form of the game. It gives plenty of time for comebacks and the changing conditions and pitch etc adds tremendous interest and complexity.

Losing Anderson so early was a big disadvantage for England but they should never have picked a 37 year old fast bowler without him having played a game after coming back from injury.

At 122 for 8 (It's in England...I'll use their convention ) in Australia's first innings one could have got some great odds on an Aussie victory but I've watched and played enough cricket to have seen some very strange things. Smith's brilliant century and the support of the tail got Australia to 284. I thought Australia bowled and fielded well without luck in England's first innings and to keep them to a lead of 90 was a fair effort. All depended on Australia setting a decent score for England to chase on a quite worn fifth day pitch.

It wasn't looking good at 27 for 2 but another fantastic Smith century held the innings together, supported by some other excellent contributions. Ultimately, due to their acceleration through the day, Australia declared at 487 for 7 but I thought they tactically missed a trick by batting a little too long on the 4th afternoon and by opening with Lyon. They should have let Cummins et al have at least ten overs at the English openers. England had been batted out of a potential win, however, and could only hope for a draw. In my experience, this is usually a bad place to be.

As it turned out, against Australia's strong bowling attack, England were in big trouble by lunch the next day and crashed to a 251 run loss, despite some heroics from Woakes.

I'm looking forward to Lords. Assuming he's playing, Archer will bolster England's bowling stocks and the selections for both teams will be interesting.

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1. Steve Smith on his way to 144 in the first innings

2. Jason Roy charges but is bowled by Nathan Lyon in a crucial moment in England's chase.








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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/10/2019 7:34:45 AM   
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Well call me old fashioned, but I'd say my prediction is looking pretty good right now.... unless the weather can come to our assistance and enable some draws.

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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/14/2019 2:44:13 AM   
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Onto Lords and I fear the worst......

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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/14/2019 10:37:30 AM   
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It looks like baseball but I think it’s called cricket, so strange...

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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/14/2019 1:38:43 PM   
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It looks like baseball but I think it’s called cricket, so strange...

They use FLAT bats! What a brilliant invention!

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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/14/2019 3:14:28 PM   
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quote:

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It looks like baseball but I think it’s called cricket, so strange...

They use FLAT bats! What a brilliant invention!


We call them hockey sticks around these parts...

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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/14/2019 3:26:58 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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quote:

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It looks like baseball but I think it’s called cricket, so strange...

They use FLAT bats! What a brilliant invention!


We call them hockey sticks around these parts...

I can't see Mike Trout using a hockey stick...

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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/15/2019 12:59:26 AM   
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It looks like baseball but I think it’s called cricket, so strange...
warspite1

You appear confused. cricket is nothing like baseball - baseball is simply glorified rounders, while cricket is, well... cricket. I trust that clarifies matters for you


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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/15/2019 1:42:40 AM   
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Cricket is used to feed reptiles . . .

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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/15/2019 1:57:47 AM   
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Cricket is used to feed reptiles . . .
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No, that's a cricket (or crickets) - not the game of cricket. These are two different things entirely. One is an insect and the other a game played by countries all over the world (mostly, but not limited to, Commonwealth countries) I trust that has clarified the matter.

A cricket



A game of cricket



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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/15/2019 2:02:13 AM   
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To further assist I present possibly the most famous cricket and arguably the most famous of cricketers. I was unable to find any famous baseball/rounders players


Sir Donald (The Don) Bradman (Australia)



Jiminy (Il Grillo Parlante) Cricket (Italy)



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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/15/2019 2:10:46 AM   
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Well call me old fashioned, but I'd say my prediction is looking pretty good right now.... unless the weather can come to our assistance and enable some draws.
warspite1

YESSSSS!!!!!!

Maybe we'll get away with 4-0.....


Play on Day 1 is totally impossible thanks to the delights of the British summer



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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/15/2019 2:21:33 AM   
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Your picture of a cricket is incorrect, that is a grasshopper. Both are useful for fishing . . .

The middle picture looks funny for croquet . . .

That bottom picture is NOT baseball, but the players do look nice . . .

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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/15/2019 2:52:43 AM   
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quote:

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It looks like baseball but I think it’s called cricket, so strange...
warspite1

You appear confused. cricket is nothing like baseball - baseball is simply glorified rounders, while cricket is, well... cricket. I trust that clarifies matters for you



You lost me on rounders...

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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/15/2019 3:24:50 AM   
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Your picture of a cricket is incorrect, that is a grasshopper. Both are useful for fishing . . .

That bottom picture is NOT baseball, but the players do look nice . . .
warspite1

Crickets/Grasshoppers - it's all the same thing.....

Baseball/Rounders - it's all the same thing.....


Perhaps the most famous grasshopper (though not sure how good he was at fishing)....



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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/15/2019 3:28:44 AM   
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quote:

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quote:

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It looks like baseball but I think it’s called cricket, so strange...
warspite1

You appear confused. cricket is nothing like baseball - baseball is simply glorified rounders, while cricket is, well... cricket. I trust that clarifies matters for you



You lost me on rounders...
warspite1

You thought cricket was like baseball - but its nothing like baseball, not even close - well I suppose they both use a round ball and are played on grass.

However baseball and rounders are similar as iirc from my primary school days (that's a long time ago), you have to hit the ball and get 'round' to home but can stop on bases or whatever or something, I think, I dunno, whatever



But this is from Wiki:

[Rounders] comparison with..... baseball

The main differences between baseball and the Rounders England version of the game are that the rounders bat is much shorter and is usually swung one-handed; misses or strikes are not called, so there are no walks or strike-outs; each batter receives only one good ball and must run whether they hit it or not. Other differences include the posts for marking the bases, which should be wooden, and are preferably encased in plastic sheaths, the lay-out of the pitch, especially the location of the last base; and the bowler's arm motion, which is an underarm pendulum action, as in softball.

So some detail differences but the concept is the same.


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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/15/2019 4:16:44 AM   
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Oh and just to even things up. I showed a picture of the late, great Sir Donald Bradman earlier, so here is a picture of one of England's finest ever players - from the days when we were good

William Gilbert (W.G.) Grace




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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/15/2019 7:45:57 AM   
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Does cricket have cheerleaders?




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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/15/2019 10:20:18 PM   
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We have streakers...





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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/16/2019 2:31:32 AM   
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Cricket is a very old and complicated sport, which is one of the reasons it's so interesting. It occupies the same cultural space as baseball in that history and statistics are fundamental to the game. If you like baseball, you'll almost certainly like cricket. You just need someone to explain it to you over a few strong lemonades In the semi-professional era, it was quite common for Australian cricketers to play baseball in the off-season to keep their skills up.

Cricket was actually quite popular in North America up until the late 19th Century but unlike in much of the British Empire, was associated with the upper classes and didn't develop mass appeal. Also in a catastrophically bad long-term move, England refused the United States entry to the Imperial Cricket Conference. The first international cricket match was between the U.S.A. and Canada in New York in 1844.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_cricket_team_in_the_United_States_in_1844

Australia and England played the first recognised "test" in 1877. A famous game in 1882 gave rise to the trophy known as "The Ashes" for which the two countries are currently locked in battle. Early cricket is fascinating to read about and to study scorecards but an analysis of photos indicates that cricket didn't achieve anything like its modern form until after WW1. Bowlers who were considered terrifyingly fast back then would be medium pace now and W.G. Grace's batting stance in the photo above looks highly suspect.

Don Bradman, who Warspite mentions above, was a batting freak with an otherworldly record almost twice as good as anybody else in cricket history. He averaged 99.94 runs per innings (each time he batted) where the next best batsmen are clustered around 60. He emerged during the Great Depression and was instrumental in maintaining national morale. If not for WW2 robbing him of about eight years and a serious illness his record would be even more remarkable.

My grandfather used to watch him play and he wasn't necessarily the greatest stylist but rather ruthless and robotic in his run scoring. From wiki..."The statistics show that "no other athlete dominates an international sport to the extent that Bradman does cricket". In order to post a similarly dominant career statistic as Bradman, a baseball batter would need a career batting average of .392, while a basketball player would need to score an average of 43.0 points per game".

Here's a short video explaining cricket

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqtpNkMvj5Y

And here's a photo I like from the "Golden Age of Cricket", a nostalgic term for cricket before the First World War, which ended the careers of several famous players. Australia's Victor Trumper, who played from 1899 to 1914, "charging" the bowler (although the photo is obviously staged). People who saw both he and Bradman play said that Trumper was the better to watch.





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RE: Ashes 2019 Predictions - 8/16/2019 2:40:16 AM   
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A bowler is someone who sends a large ball, with three holes in it for their fingers to hold and steer it, down some wooden boards to try and knock down ten pins set up in a triangle.

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