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Ship backgrounds - 7/17/2019 7:31:30 PM   
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How do you artist's put ships on the sides/shills. Do you have ones that are marked or what? I get lucky with some and other I mess it up.

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RE: Ship backgrounds - 7/17/2019 8:48:07 PM   
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First, there are certain standard file parameters with which you should be familiar. The standard size is 200 x 60 pixels (width/height), and the required format is 24-bit bitmap (that is 8 bits per channel).

Second, get yourself a good image editor which is capable of layering. Photoshop and GIMP are two popular options.

Next, get your side backgrounds from Big B's Shipyard. I have also attached to this post a blank shil .bmp as a .zip file.

Then you'll need to either get existing ship artwork and scale it down to the proper size, or draw your own art. The ship will be on a separate layer 'on top' of the background and shil layers. The ability to layer is the secret to modifying specific parts of the image (such as the ship only) without ruining the others. You can also make a duplicate of a layer and use it to experiment with modifications. This allows you to revert back to the original layer if everything goes wrong instead of losing all your work.

It's difficult to describe everything involved - it's the same problem any artist would have giving a specific process for replicating their work. A general description is doable, but at some level of resolution the process is 'lost in translation'.

It will probably be best for you to attempt following the general outline above, and then to ask questions when you hit a snag in the process.



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RE: Ship backgrounds - 7/17/2019 10:25:22 PM   
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Thanks Kovar

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RE: Ship backgrounds - 7/17/2019 10:56:23 PM   
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I'm sure you're already aware of it, but for those reading along - Shipbucket is an excellent resource for ship art. It does take some effort to integrate the art into the AE format, but it's better than drawing a ship from scratch.

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RE: Ship backgrounds - 7/18/2019 12:07:20 AM   
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I do like shipbucket. Never thought about trying to copy the art.

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RE: Ship backgrounds - 7/18/2019 12:53:00 AM   
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Here are some examples of art requests where I used Shipbucket as a basis:








It's not a simple copy/paste operation, but it works pretty well with some tweaking and shading.

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RE: Ship backgrounds - 7/18/2019 8:57:33 PM   
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quote:

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Here are some examples of art requests where I used Shipbucket as a basis:



Wow, those are fantastic! If only there was a similar system we could use for city bombardment screens....

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RE: Ship backgrounds - 7/21/2019 2:32:05 AM   
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Those are awesome looking.

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RE: Ship backgrounds - 7/21/2019 7:05:22 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Korvar

Here are some examples of art requests where I used Shipbucket as a basis:





[image]https://i.imgur.com/2SOb7QT.png[/imag

It's not a simple copy/paste operation, but it works pretty well with some tweaking and shading.


Fantastic!



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RE: Ship backgrounds - 7/21/2019 7:40:11 PM   
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The problem I have when using Shipbucket is with US CVs. The views are always starboard side, while WitP:AE uses port side views.

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RE: Ship backgrounds - 7/22/2019 2:42:48 AM   
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Thanks everyone.


Admiral,

I've never tried to use Shipbucket to make carrier art, but that is a good point regarding asymmetrical vessels. Let me know if there is a particular carrier you'd like to have. I have some ideas about how it might work, but I won't know if they're good ideas until I actually attempt one.

The only carrier work I've done so far is to modify the game artwork. Here is the Yorktown class with the big SK set (#0238):


My modifications (left) compared to the original (right)

I also did some work on the long-hull Essex (#0240):


Mine (left), original (right) - the only difference is the bow.

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