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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 7/22/2019 9:06:30 PM   
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1x Commercial Fishing Boat [23m] "oops, I will blame those serbs for this one"


They were Serbian spies no doubt!

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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 7/22/2019 10:29:31 PM   
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Intel question: are the Yugoslav subs operational in this version of the universe? Do we have any reports of Warpac sub activity in the Adriatic?

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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 7/23/2019 1:06:02 AM   
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Intel question: are the Yugoslav subs operational in this version of the universe? Do we have any reports of Warpac sub activity in the Adriatic?


There's an eclectic mix, from what I've found so far. ASW is still a major concern.

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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 7/23/2019 2:35:15 AM   
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just lost the Hansa Carrier when a mine sweeper decided to turn around in the channel and the sweep thing set off about 10 mines all at once. That one even had a diver, not sure why it was using the sweep part. Sometimes it turns and the sweep go over a mine and it explodes, other times it does the same thing and they don't explode.

Maybe a few less mines right next to it? though there is no easy way to move them.

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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 7/23/2019 7:22:41 AM   
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Yes, at least one and possibly two Yugo subs are working, and possibly, although there have been no firm detections of WarPac subs there is at least one Kilo unaccounted for and probably 2 Foxtrots

I'll work something like that into the brief

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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 7/23/2019 7:23:58 AM   
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Maybe a few less mines right next to it?


might move it slightly out of the minefield proper. Thanks

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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 7/23/2019 4:26:33 PM   
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I probably should have tried to move the Hansa once I knew where the mines were - I'll see if I can do that next time.

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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 7/23/2019 4:34:01 PM   
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She has a circle of RPs that trigger some events. Cannot remember which side the RPs are on, either UNPROFOR or the side that merchant ships are on.

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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 7/23/2019 4:47:02 PM   
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Andrew

Yes, at least one and possibly two Yugo subs are working, and possibly, although there have been no firm detections of WarPac subs there is at least one Kilo unaccounted for and probably 2 Foxtrots

I'll work something like that into the brief


Found the Kilo. That was a white knuckle experience!

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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 7/23/2019 5:27:27 PM   
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ah - and the rps are not set to move relative. Interesting. I did see them, they were very close, I think you need to tell people the distance or else they'll get frustrated I think. On this one I think they were at 75 meters - super small area. I think on the other merchants were you had to hover over them it was around 400m? Both are good info for the user to know.

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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 7/23/2019 9:12:03 PM   
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War has come to the Adriatic, in a gradual way, and I've been tasked to oversee operations in the area. Although there has been little activity for the previous few days, indications are that this will change. Significant concentrations of Warpac aircraft are reported in Hungarian and Czech airbases, and it's unlikely they'll remain inactive much longer. It also looks like the enemy has started to mine the entrances to Split, on the Croatian coast, as well as undertaking sabotage operations in Italy itself, by means of seaborne smuggling and infiltration.

I've been given a flotilla of minesweepers, and tasked with clearing and re-opening the approaches to Split, removing a mine-damaged ship, and escorting in four more cargo ships with military supplies. My chiefs also want me to undertake strikes against the Warpac airfields, and evaluate the possibility of strikes against potentially hostile naval forces based on the Balkan coast.


Forces

My naval forces are spread out, from the Garibaldi group approaching the heel of Italy in the south, through a range of frigates and destroyers scattered along the length of the Adriatic nearly as far north as Venice. None of the ships are exceptionally powerful, but the Italian ones do have a long range Otomat missiles, whose 100 nm range should give me a comfortable range advantage over the enemy ships. Although NATO made the case for deploying the Garibaldi to the eastern Med, the Italians have decided it will stay in home waters, and its aircraft may be helpful against lesser foes in the south. Four Sparviero hydrofoils give me a welcome strength boost in that area too.

My fighter aircraft are in reasonable strength, including F-16s with AMRAAM up in Aviano, a pack of Tornado ADVs in southern Italy, and smaller numbers of Spanish and French aircraft to back them up. I also have a large number of aging F-104s, which may be obsolescent, but I think the combination of their high-speed dash and decent SARH missiles (Aspides) may make them useful against lesser foes.

I have a surprising number of attack planes, including swarms of Tornado IDS in northern Italy, and numerous G.91 light attack planes, as well as some F-15Es and A-10s. I should have no troubles mustering large numbers of bombers, provided I can keep the enemy (and any saboteurs) away from them.


The Plan

Initial steps call for force consolidation and reconnaissance.

Most of the ships in the Adriatic will converge to cover the minesweepers and cargo vessels approaching Split, while helicopters hurry to put liaison teams on the civilian ships. The Garibaldi group will tighten up and head north, picking up their oiler en-route, before cautiously entering the strait between Italy and Albania. This would be a great place for an enemy sub to lurk, which is why one of mine will lurk there too, teaming up with an Atlantique, and hoping to out-ambush the ambushers.

My other sub will close on the naval base at Kotor, to keep an eye on the area and hopefully forestall any enemy concentrations putting to sea. I'm also ordering a French Mirage with recce pods to make a dash down the coast to see what's in the base, and the Sparviero hydrofoils, on the other side of the Adriatic, are being put on alert to handle emerging threats.

This takes most of my ships away from anti-smuggling duty, other than the northern-most one near Venice. It's being assigned patrol duties there, where I hope fighter cover from local airbases can keep it safe. For the rest of my coast, I'm relying on good airborne radar coverage and air attack to deal with any small-boat incursions. (Edit: which may not help much if they're infiltrating by sub.)

My air-forces are ordered to push CAP further west into the former Yugoslavia, to cover UN forces there, and to see what response we can provoke from the Warpac forces in Hungary. Hopefully we can begin attriting enemy patrols in the area.

While this is ongoing, planning will commence for a dusk attack on the two western-most Hungarian airbases. The initial concept is for a powerful HARM barrage from the Tornadoes, followed by low-level Tornado strikes dashing in to sever runway access points and ruin SAM sites with their cluster munitions, leaving the way open for the F-15Es to shut the runways with heavy LGBs. No doubt plans will change, depending on what we find earlier in the day.

So, time to press 'Play'!


(All through my impressionable late-Cold War youth, you couldn't open an aviation book without seeing spectacular pictures of the Tornado spewing submunitions out of its enormous MW-1 dispenser.



These planes, we were told, would swoop in at ultra-low level and savage enemy ground forces and runways in an unstoppable hailstorm of bomblets. Finally, I have my chance to try it out. My prediction? Disaster... If I'm up against MANPADS and the Soviet low-level air-defence net the casualties wil be ruinous. But I can't resist. I have to try!


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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 7/24/2019 1:33:40 AM   
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Is the political situation considered good enough for us to forward base aircraft into Croation or Bosnian airbases? Or would the UN mandate not allow for NATO combatants?

(There's no ammo there, but it could make a useful forward refuelling point for distant F-104s, etc.)

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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 7/24/2019 2:03:17 AM   
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That sir, is a darn good question.

I'll do a bit of research but my gut feel is:

Once hostilities start, Slovenia would open it's bases for certain. Croatia would probably clamor for protection, basing would probably be a violation of the UN mandate but one which could easily be argued away under the circumstances. Bosnia would be off limits I think.

To put this in place I'll need to turn them into multi-unit airbases, some are just not that big - and it will give the short legged Serbs something else to bomb. I'll probably turn the Bosnian bases into Geomarkers vice bases to keep them out of the players hands. Might want to give you some Hurcs & Transals to move some ammo.

--- oh and I forgot - be careful.

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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 7/24/2019 9:33:36 PM   
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Well, the last time it wasn't an onslaught, that was a pin ****!!!
I am facing hordes of bogeys coming out of the wall and so little to counter them
I am deeply disgusted by Skyflash, I think that those useless missile haven't hit a single serbian plane, not even a lowly Orao
Great way of squandering our taxes!
The Spilloni have managed to shoot down even a couple of Flankers, the Tornado ADV are just adding up the tally of NATO AC destroyed.
I have lost the patriots, not yet destroyed but inoffensive, it wasn't a brilliant idea to use them as cover for the F-104 while they closed range with the Mig-29, even if it worked for a while, I left their radar active for too long and when the vampires arrived they were reloading.
Well, we'll see.

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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 7/24/2019 11:35:10 PM   
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Pristina/Slatina AB appears to need runway access points.

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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 7/25/2019 9:23:51 PM   
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Aviano Kaputt

my defences were cut to pieces and the airbase badly mauled.
Can I ask for a separate peace in tipical italian fashion?
Also the naval forces attempting to bring supplies to Split have been severely damaged, but I think I can still get through, surely not for the effectiveness of the Tornado ADV, I really despise those multimillions useless things.
Will my strike forces be ready before the soviets can get back?
Will the Tornado IDS be able to get thorugh to the hungarian ABs?
The next generation will know the answer.

SIDE: NATO
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LOSSES:
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18x A/C Hardened Aircraft Shelter (1x Large Aircraft)
1x Ammo Revetment
1x BR.1150 Atlantic 1 [P-1150A]
1x CH-124B Heltas [Sea King]
2x Civilian RHIB [7m]
2x EA-6B Prowler ICAP II Blk 89
1x EC-130H Compass Call
3x EF-111A Raven
1x F 551 Minerva [Albatross]
3x F/A-18A Hornet [EF-18A+, C.15A]
17x F-104S Starfighter ASA
2x F-15E Strike Eagle
11x F-16C Blk 25 Falcon
10x F-16CJ Blk 50 Falcon
1x KC-130H Hercules [TK.10]
5x KC-135R Stratotanker
1x Lynx SH-14C [Mk81]
1x M 5550 Lerici
1x M 850 Alkmaar [Tripartite Class]
2x Mirage 2000C
1x Mirage F.1CT
1x OA-10A Thunderbolt II
3x PAP 104 Mk5 ROV
7x Patriot M901
2x Pinguin B3 ROV
1x Pluto ROV
2x Radar (RAT-31S/C)
1x Stinger MANPADS
13x Tornado ADV
2x US 7m Standard Navy RHIB
2x Vehicle (AN/MPQ-53)

SIDE: WP
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LOSSES:
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22x MiG-23MLD Flogger K
2x MiG-25RBS Foxbat D
20x MiG-27M Flogger J
25x MiG-29 Fulcrum C
1x PL-877V Kilo [Paltus]
10x Su-24M Fencer D
5x Su-27S Flanker B

SIDE: Serbia
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LOSSES:
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4x J-22 Orao II
13x MiG-21bis Fishbed L
7x MiG-21PFM Fishbed F [MiG-21SPS/SPS-K]
8x MiG-29 Fulcrum A
1x P 831 Sava
3x PC 171 Biokovo [Mirna]
4x RC 301 Mitar Acev [Pr.205 Osa I]
1x RF 31 Beograd [Ex-Split, Pr.1159 Koni]
1x RF 33 Kotor [Pr.1159 Koni]
2x RTOP 401 Rade Konĉar [Type 240]

SIDE: Romania
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LOSSES:
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2x MiG-21M Fishbed J
4x MiG-21MF Fishbed J
4x MiG-23MF Flogger B

SIDE: Hugary
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LOSSES:
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22x MiG-21bis Fishbed N
16x MiG-21MF Fishbed J
9x MiG-23MF Flogger B
5x MiG-29 Fulcrum A
3x Su-22M-3K Fitter J

SIDE: UNPROFOR
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LOSSES:
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4x Building (Barracks)
2x Building (Communication Hub)
1x Building (Large Government Building)
1x Building (Radio/TV Station)
4x Building (Small)
6x Building (Tents)
1x C.160F Transall
10x Diesel (40k Liter Tank)
1x HQ Bde (NATO)
2x Structure (Forward Operating Base)


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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 7/29/2019 9:34:36 AM   
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A quick question, is it intentional that UNPROFOR evacuation mission from Sarajevo is a round trip one?

UNPROFOR #1 is getting back to Sarajevo from Amendola, it's not a problem because the Serbs aren't targeting the evacuation planes, just curious.

The Transall in the losses roster was probably destroyed on the ground I guess.

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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 7/29/2019 10:17:44 AM   
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Yes - that is intended, they have almost 2000 to evacuate and that number will probably grow with NGOs, Media and Expats wanting to get out - I'll put another message to build that story.

They should be being targeted - not sure why they're not but the Sarajevo airport is a single unit airfield I think. Is it that there are no enemy fighters in range or are they just ignoring the transports?

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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 7/29/2019 11:58:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Gunner98

They should be being targeted - not sure why they're not but the Sarajevo airport is a single unit airfield I think. Is it that there are no enemy fighters in range or are they just ignoring the transports?

Tx

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The serbian A/C are intercepting the transports but aren't firing at them, they simply shadow them.
As you say Sarajevo is a single unit airfiled so the Transall cannot have been destroyed on the ground; it must have been killed by an enemy A/C, I didn't notice it happening; but for sure I have witnessed other transport not being attacked; the first one to leave has made it back to Sarajevo shadowed by enemy Fulcrums.
Could it be that WRA for Fulcrums prohibite them to engage transports with missiles?

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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 7/29/2019 1:31:32 PM   
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Could it be that WRA


Could be, I'll check it out. Thanks

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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 7/29/2019 1:36:57 PM   
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Could it be that WRA for Fulcrums prohibite them to engage transports with missiles?


If that where the case, they would be shooting them with guns, what you are describing sounds like a textbook case of an interception against an unfriendly target. So I would say that the Serbians have UNPROFOR as unfriendly side even after the starting of hostilities.

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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 7/29/2019 1:42:48 PM   
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Probably just need to put them on Wpns Free to sort things out or Optimistic. Will play around with it.

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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 7/31/2019 4:09:33 AM   
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Finally, some more time to actually play!


First Afternoon

As the scenario gets underway my planes and helicopters rush about to get a good picture of the naval situation, getting eyes on the large number of fishing boats and occasional cargo ships that are in the Adriatic. Liaison teams get dropped off on the four cargo ships headed for Split, and once communications are established the captains are instructed to form up into a northern and southern pair, while warship escorts hurry to meet up with them. My tugboat and the minesweepers also get escorts (although the feeble St. Laurent, which is escorting the sweepers, is essentially helpless against anything fiercer than a rowboat) as they head east towards the minefields near Split.

My recce Mirage flies down from Aviano and makes a close flyby of the Kotor naval base to get a count of the vessels in port. There's a sub and about 17 ships in the harbour, including a Koni, plus another Koni frigate patrolling nearby. The most modern adversaries are the pair of Koni frigates, which have effective SAM defences, but the remaining missile boats and minor patrol craft are a lesser concern. The sub could be a real problem, but it's out of reach for the moment. As the Mirage turns for home it finds another enemy patrol boat further north along the coast, headed into my waters. It's not a powerful ship, but it's worth keeping an eye on. I am tempted to hit the base, even though the Serbs aren't actively hostile yet, but I would have to use my G.91 light attack planes, and I'm not sure they have the punch to wreck the docks. They'd also be facing three SAM sites plus the ship-based SAMs, so it might not end well for relatively basic planes, and I set the idea aside.

The Garibaldi's planes might be able to contribute later on, but for the moment the Garibaldi group is well south of the region. It's headed north, but slower than I'd like because the oiler Stromboli has joined the group. I'd like to move faster, but I really don't think it's safe to leave the oiler behind, so I'm reluctantly accepting the slow pace. To avoid friction with Albania, I'm setting a course for the west side of the straits, and the group should be passing Otranto and Brindisi this evening.


Air Skirmishing

At first I keep things calm in the air, while I concentrate on reconnaissance and consolidation, and I start the process of bringing some of the more distant F-104s from Cameri to Rivolto, to improve their reaction time.

After a couple of hours my CAP pushes up towards the Hungarian border, detecting the usual array of Soviet jammers operating in Hungary, and an AN-71 Madcap AEW plane (known to fly by pure force of ugliness), which is flying a route between Hungary and Serbia which brings it temptingly close to my border where those two countries meet. My initial probes towards it are uncoordinated, and I soon have a few MiG-29s and a swarm of MiG-21s crossing the border to engage me. My missile range advantage pays off, and I take no casualties before I withdraw, but I don't get anywhere near the Madcap.

My second sweep is more carefully concentrated, and manages to kill the Madcap and a number of jammers and ELINT planes too. The Mig-21s and Mig-29 trainers out of Kekskemet try and interfere, but they are outranged, and fortunately the better enemy planes seem to be grounded for the moment. (Two of them try and chase my jammer across the Adriatic, and get jumped by F-104s, but that is all.) The SA-5 wants to play too, lobbing missiles my way, but the range is great enough that I can dive below their radar long before the missiles arrive.

The most significant result of these exchanges is that some Serbian MiGs came to join the fight, and got shot down for their troubles, so it appears that the Serbs consider me hostile. Fair enough...


Naval Engagement

In addition to their attempted intercept, I'm also getting intelligence briefings of MiG-23s concealed in Kralijevo, and troop movements near the Bosnian border, and then my southern AWACS starts reporting that six enemy ships are making a sortie from Kotor. Both the Serbian Konis are at sea now, but they're still well out of their missile range with their short-ranged Styxes, while my 100 nm Otomats can reach all the way across the Adriatic. It's the perfect time to strike!

My four Sparviero hydrofoils come dashing out of Brindisi, and they combine their fire with the two other Italian ships in the southern Adriatic, to send 10 missiles towards each of the Konis. The Konis' SAMs are quite effective, and they knock down many of my missiles, but a few manage to get through, sinking both frigates and a couple more of the nearby patrol craft. This leaves me empty of missiles, but also leaves the Serbs without any SAM cover for their ships at sea, so it's safe to send the Italian attack planes now, and they swoop in and sink the exposed targets.

As usual, my sub is a few miles out of place to engage, but it keeps closing on Kotor, hoping to get a shot at one of the remaining ships, or maybe their sub, if it has put to sea. Meanwhile the high-spirited Sparvieros wheel about and dash back into Brindisi harbour, where the dockworkers leap to reload the ships with fresh missile canisters. This is fortunate, since its not long before three more ships emerge from Kotor, and one of them's another Koni! The reloaded hydrofoils dash out and unleash a second missile salvo, which manages to sink the little fleet. That's three Konis so far. Hopefully they don't have a fourth.



Upcoming

Reviewing the intelligence information about increased Serbian activity, it's plain that something's coming soon. High command is even advising me to reconsider my strike plans for tonight. For the moment we'll keep loading for the airfield attacks. Its late afternoon now, and this may be wishful thinking, but my hope is that the enemy won't make significant moves before dawn. They're not as well equipped for night fighting as I am, and I think they'd want to maximize the effectiveness of their strike planes, and possibly take advantage of another night of sabotage. (I wish I had some airfield security troops.) Although if they make a big ground push tonight, many of my own light strike planes are effectively daylight only, so there's little I can do to engage them until tomorrow. They could go a long way against disorganized UN troops.

We shall see...

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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 7/31/2019 3:50:30 PM   
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but slower than I'd like because the oiler Stromboli has joined the group.


Bugger, ... you gotta hate it when that happens...

I do love those little Sparviero boats.

Thanks Andrew, I look forward to the next update.

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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 8/1/2019 9:18:57 PM   
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Well, my hope was that the enemy wouldn't make big moves before morning, to deny me by advantages in night-fighting, but it doesn't look like they feel the same way...


First Evening - First Wave

Things still looked calm after my successful second fighter strike on their AEW and support planes, and my planes withdrew to reload, while another pair of Tornadoes moved into the area to provide cover for UNPROFOR. Another jammer AN-12 was temptingly near the border as they arrived, and my pilots were able to dart into Serbia to knock it down. My AWACS started reporting enemy fighters scrambling nearby, which seemed like a reasonable response to my provocation, but then there were more and more contacts, first at multiple airbases in Serbia, and then at airbases in Hungary.

Looking around, I realised I had left myself with exactly two (2) Tornado ADVs in the region, with partially exhausted missile loads, and the enemy horde was growing by the moment. The order was given to start scrambling aircraft in response, but the question was how many to launch, since it wasn't certain how big the attack would be. This caused a somewhat drawn-out launch process, rather than one single scramble, which had the largest effect in the south where my transit times were greatest. In the meantime the pair of Tornadoes did what they could, darting into a pack of light attack planes that were forming up and knocking down four of them with Sidewinders, before running for their lives from the growing swarm of fighters.

The attack in the south was composed of swarms of lesser fighters and attack planes making a two-pronged attack. Dense packs of light attack planes closed in on the UNPROFOR facilities at Sarajevo, while a longer stream of bomb-laden MiG-21s headed for the UNPROFOR logistics base near Split. A few flights of MiG-29s preceded the planes headed for Split, and a dense screen of MiG-21s and 29s guarded the southern flank of the Sarajevo attack. Tornadoes and F-104s came rushing across the Adriatic on afterburner in an attempt to head them off, but the enemy started much closer to their targets than I did, and UNPROFOR forces at Sarajevo soon came under heavy bombardment by the light attack aircraft. My Tornadoes attempted to clear the way through the fighter screen with their Sky Flash SARH missiles to get to the attack, but their success rate was feeble, and many missiles passed blindly by their targets. (Recent changes to the behaviour of SARH missiles, which now seem to do lag pursuit end games, make it very difficult to achieve hits.) I couldn't get through enemy fighter screen to engage, and had to abandon any attempts to protect the forces in Sarajevo, which suffered repeated hits on the tent-sites and some damage to observation posts.

My planes did better against the Split attack, managing to kill the leading MiG-29s (not before one overflew Split and shot down a naval helicopter) and draw more fighters away to the north. (Let's pretend that was deliberate, not the byproduct of fleeing desperately on afterburner.) This left the MiG-21 bombers relatively exposed, but even so, the enemy fighters mixed in with the pack kept interfering and preventing me from lining up for clean shots or cannon fire. It took a lot of desperate dogfighting, and the last-minute arrival of late-launched F-104s and Tornadoes, to shoot down or drive back the attackers. In the end, none of them made it to Split.

The attack in the north, from Hungary, was entirely composed of high-grade fighters (Mig-29s and Su-27s), and they seemed to be headed for Aviano. Most of my AMRAAM-bearing F-16s hurried to meet them, with some F-104s in support, and a fierce combat erupted. The enemy's long-range missiles actually outrange my AMRAAMs, but fortunately they weren't firing at extreme range (MiG-29s have feeble radars, and I think the EC-130 jamming behind me hampered the Su-27s). As a result we opened fire at about the same time, and my AMRAAMs seemed able to stymie their SARH missile shots, by forcing them to turn and break lock. Nonetheless, my hit rate was low against the nimble and well defended fighters, and before long I was falling back under the pressure until I could gradually attrite the attackers. I lost several F-104s here, when they closed in, but my F-16s (and a couple of F-18s) all managed to stay BVR, and only a few of the enemy managed to return home.

I'm not certain if this was actually an "attack", per se, since no bombers or attack planes made an appearance (unless there were some PGMs on the MiGs which never got launched). Perhaps it was more of a fighter sweep intended to keep my best planes pinned in the north? If so, it certainly worked. AMRAAMs would have made a merry massacre down south, but they were all defending Aviano instead.


Brief Interlude

While the tail end of the first attacks were still being fought off, AWACS began reporting additional contacts forming up over enemy airbases. So far, it looks like another set of 18 or so Su-27s and MiG-29s plus a few MiG-21s coming through Hungary in the north, and I'm seeing large numbers of MiG-23s (at least 14) forming up in Serbia, and hints of other radar emissions further away in enemy territory. ELINT also reports that the enemy has replaced their jammer losses, and another AEW Madcap is up, so they will have eyes on the fight once more.

What are the enemy's actual objectives?

The northern forces look like more modern fighters, for the moment, so I suspect that's another pin. There may be attack planes coming too, but so far I haven't seen any there. UNPROFOR HQ, in Zagreb, is very close, however, and if a ground attack comes from the north it may well go there. The southern force is showing two variants of the MiG-23, and I suspect the old ones will be toting bombs, so I smell a strike brewing there. They may try and hit the two southern UNPROFOR facilities again, and there is the possibility that they will have a go at the shipping steaming towards Split. Thanks to the fishing boat navy, they definitely know I'm there.

How am I to deal with this?

I didn't launch all my fighters against the first attacks. Instead, I tried to keep a reserve of about a third of my good planes on the ground, none of the Mirages participated, and a couple of F-104 squadrons remained completely at ready. Now I have no choice but to use them.

Orders have gone out to launch all remaining fighters from Aviano, to deal with the enemy coming through Hungary. Half my Mirages, and the remaining F-104s forward-based to Rivolto will participate, and the EF-111s are launching to assist. This will still leave me with a worse force-ratio than for the first fight. None of my airborne F-16s will have the time to do a quick turnaround before the enemy arrives in the north. Instead, two thirds of them will head south-east to guard Zagreb. They only have Sidewinders left, but that may be enough to severely damage any attack planes headed there. The remaining F-16s are burner-dashing for Aviano to begin reloading, as are the F-104s headed back to Rivolto. (I'm also considering flying ready AWACS, ELINT, and tankers from Aviano back to bases in western Italy, to get the vulnerable planes a bit further from the fight.)

In central Italy, I'm emptying a complete F-104 base (Grosetto), with half heading for Zagreb, and half for Split. In southern Italy the last of the Tornados and F-104s are lifting off to head for Split, passing planes which are hurrying back from the southern fight.

What does this leave me?

Well, the cupboard is essentially bare now. I've still got a full squadron of ready F-104s and a few Mirages at Cervia-Pisignano at the north end of the Adriatic, but that's about it. I'll have some F-16s reloaded with AMRAAM at Aviano in about 45 minutes and some replenished F-104s shortly afterwards. My southern fighters should be home and reloaded within an hour. If the second wave resolves quickly, I might have my Zagreb-bound F-16s home and reloaded in an hour and a half. Will this be enough? We shall see...

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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 8/1/2019 9:55:10 PM   
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If so, it certainly worked.


Glad to hear it

I'd be very interested in what sort of light conditions there are as the next few events happen. Timing is everything.

Glad you're having an interesting time.

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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 8/1/2019 9:56:54 PM   
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Wild Weasel Foxbats over Hungary! Something big's definitely coming....

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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 8/3/2019 3:23:09 AM   
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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 8/4/2019 5:38:46 PM   
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I finally striked back!!!

I husbanded my meagre A2A assets letting the WP A/C roam at will above eastern italy, in the meantime I moved a couple of hawk batteries around aviano to counter the Flankers sweeps.

Launched all the Tornados armed with a mix of HARMs and Mavericks on a SEAD patrol centered around Balaton AB, with in front a sweep of Amraam carryng fighters.

Behind the Hungary strike I launched also the french Jaguars with a mission to crater the Maribor AB runway just occupied by hungarian desantniki (how did you say desantniki in hungarian?)

Result: the SAM batteries in hungary are well beaten up, but i had to recall the maverick armed tornados, before they could wipe out the rabble, because my supporting fighters had depleted their missiles and there were more flankers on the move; next time I will add also anti-runway tornados to the mix.
Maribor runway was damaged but not closed, those pesky hungarian desant managed to down one of the jaguars, I have found how to use the A-10s if they are in range.

In the southern part of the OA I started the sweeping operation to clear the channels leading to Split but the cable cutters of my surviving minesweepers are not able to sweep those mines
Doing it with only two ROVs is too time consuming, I will recall the naval forces to safety; sorry for the guys of UNPROFOR but supplies will not come.

< Message edited by Andrea G -- 8/4/2019 5:42:39 PM >


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RE: New Scenario for testing - Mediterranean Fury 5, Se... - 8/4/2019 5:45:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Gunner98

Probably just need to put them on Wpns Free to sort things out or Optimistic. Will play around with it.

Tx


I was able to take a look at the Fulcrums while they shadowed one of the Sarajevo Airlift transport, they are not serbs but WP ones, could it be that WP is not hostile to UNPROFOR?

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