The bananas from Guatemala and the guano from Peru also saved US's a**es then. Fair enough
So you are saying the supplies that Stalin demanded the Allies send were useless and he did that just for kicks? This is a common line seen in Soviet circles. While it is true the Germans were defeated mostly in the Soviet space it is equally true it could not have been accomplished without the aid of the Soviet allies.
And it isn't just trucks. The raw and refined materials sent to the Soviets were critical to winning. If the Allies did not send aluminum to the Soviets where would it have come from? Soviet mines. Soviet smelters. Soviet mills. And who would run these mines and smelters and mills? The people freed up from those labors were on the front lines fighting the Germans or were in factories building tanks, artillery and aircraft. And that same Allies aluminum was used to build those Soviet aircraft. While you can pretend it made no difference and continue with lies and propaganda the facts still remain. Not to mention the Allies aviation fuel sent to fuel those aircraft allowed them greater range, less maintenance and less fuel usage because it was of a superior grade.
Food, leather goods, chemicals, wood, metals, atomic materials, oils, resins, fuels, lubricants, machines, tools, parts the list goes on and on for pages. If all of this were not sent to the Soviets then the Soviets would have had to use people who were doing other things to make it or not have it at all. So do the typical Soviet thing and deny. But even a fool can see the difference the Allies made in the East Front. https://archive.org/stream/1942LendLeaseContribution/FromMajorJordansDiaries-UssrLendLease-1952-269_djvu.txt
This is just a very small partial list:
ITEM Quantity Cost in Dollars
Thorium salts and compounds 25,352 $ 32,570 Brass & bronze blanks 32,760,542 lbs. $ 6,270,740.
Uranium nitrate 500 lbs. --- Brass & bronze plates & sheets 536,632,390 lbs. 99,376,514.
Uranium nitrate (U02) 220 lbs. --- Brass & bronze pipes & tubes l6,642,267 lbs. 5,126,324.
Uranium oxide 500 lbs. --- Copper alloys 660 lbs. 396.
Uranium, urano-uranic oxide (U308) 200 lbs. --- Insulated copper wire, n.e.s. 399,556,720 lbs. 97,637,534.
Copper maaufactures, n.e.s. --- 278,336.
METALS & METAL MANUFACTURES Copper rods 2,875,916 lbs. 553,042.
Aluminum & alloys, ingots, slabs, etc. 366,73S,204 lbs. 53,884,473. Copper wire, bare 28,235,738 lbs. 5,261,483.
Aluminum rods & bars 13,744,709 lbs. 3,285,014. Copper wire, rubber-covered 16,521,612 lbs. 3,965,050.
Aluminum plates, sheets, strips 124,052,618 lbs. 45,408,111. Copper wire, weather-proof 4,848,312 lbs. 1,261,789.
Aluminum foil 409,556 lbs. 205,231. Copper munitions, excl. rotat. bands 1,598,723 lbs. 2,102,024.
Aluminum kitchen, hospital utensils 310 lbs. 1,428. Copper refined ingots, bars, etc. 75,663,895 lbs. 9,041,122.
Aluminum powders & paste 219,736 lbs. 91,915. Copper pipes & tubes 38,913,403 lbs. 22,728,592.
Aluminum contr. valves 980 lbs. 10,122. Copper plates & sheets 26,432,417 lbs. 5,642,774.
Aluminum manufactures, n.e.s. --- 308,542. Nickel-chrome electric resistance wire 1,603,104 lbs. 2,121,121.
Brass &c bronze ingots 10,214,064 lbs. 1,283,755. Nickel ore, conc. & matts l55,604 lbs. 116,571.
Brass & bronze bars, rods, etc. 66,329,462 lbs. 12,502,080. Nickel alloys & scrap 1,944,796 lbs. 812,3ll.
Brass & bronze pipe fittings 14,097 lbs. 30,931. Nickel ingots, bars, rods, etc. 15,669,441 lbs. 6,560,7l9.
Brass & bronze valves, 4-in. & over 204,288 lbs. 189,623. Nickel manufactures, n.e.s. --- 2,216,294.
Brass goods, plumbers 8,598 lbs. 5,828. Tin & tin mfrs, tin foil 82,583 lbs. 44,353.
Brass or bronze wire l6,139,702 lbs. 3,734,169. Tin ingots, pigs, bars, etc. 30,620 lbs. 16,079.
Brass wood scrcws l,2l8 gross 453. Tin manufactures, n.e.s. --- 2.
Brass or bronze hardware --- 13,465. Lead foil and tin foil 26,880 lbs. 15,546.
Brass & bronze die stocks, etc. 8,739 lbs. 9,180. Lead, pigs & bars 801,234 lbs. l,913,769.
Brass & bronze munitions 21,824,376 lbs. 4,253,987. Lead sheets & pipes ?4,555 lbs, 6,720.
Brass & bronze window strips 65,924 lbs. 28,567. Lead, solder 378 Ibs. 76.
Brass & bronze, forgings 218 lbs. 249. Lead, cable 1,681,081 lbs. 314,308.
Brass & bronze circles 933,110 lbs. 194,447. Lead, plate or battery plate 1,122 lbs. 475.
Brass & bronze manufactures, n.e.s. --- 233,843. Lead, shot l8l,506 lbs. 17,646.
Lead, castings, circles, etc. 124,645 lbs. $ 40,569.
Lead manufactures, n.e.s. --- 105,421. Automotive wrenches & parts --- 25,736.
Carbonyl iron powder 27,050 lbs. 42,436. Wrenches & parts, excl. automotive --- 163,179.
Ferrochrome 7,820,3l3 lbs. 1,285,175. Drills, etc., metal cutting, power-driven 7,822,2l6 8,863,820.
Ferromolybdenum 5,357,500 lbs. 3,210,590. Drills, etc., excl. power-driven --- 9,062,215.
Ferrovanadium 1,074,190 lbs. 2,034,830. Hand-operated taps, etc., metal-working
Ferrophosphorus l9,229 lbs. 710. machines 593,278 1,091,423.
Ferrosilicon 16,187,318 lbs. 941,985. Hand-operated taps, etc., excL metal-
working machines --- 4,224,303.
Ferrotungsten 3,027,188 lbs. 4,715,335. Hand-operattd dies, etc., metal-work-
Ferro alloys, n.e.s. 88,900 lbs. 137,695.
Babbitt metal 604,569 lbs. 265,179. ing machines 35,538 32,346.
Quicksilver or mercury 10,590 lbs. 28,736. Hand-operated dies, etc., excl. metal-
Tungsten metal, etc. & alloy 279,449 lbs. 4,268,890. working machines --- 258,766.
Cerite or cerium ore 2,651 lbs. 8,978. Hand-operated metalcutting tools, n.e.s. --- 786,914.
Zirconium ore & concentrate 220 lbs. 2,420. Pliers, pincers, nippers, etc. 3,463 doz. 33,700.
Cesium metals & alloys 30,299 lbs. 78,61l. Drill pries, bit braces, etc. --- 217,288.
Chromium metal alloy scrap 23,924 lbs. 6,992. Planes, chisels & other cutting tools --- 121,833.
Manganese metal & alloys 359,006 lbs. ?9,259. Gauges for precision measure 38,348 1,562,938.
Molybdenum ore & concentrates 20,145,302 lbs. 10,841,501. Mechanic' hand tools, n.e.s. --- 5,272,573.
Magnesium metal primary form 17,798,206 lbs. 3,640,716. Tools with industrial diamonds 15 11l.
Molybdenum metal alloys, acrap 913,480 lbs. 466,602. Tool grinders, emery wheel dressers 15,650 lbs. 85,106.
Tantalum metal & alloys 6,513 lbs. 136,665. Hand tools & parts, n.e.a, --- 4,211,507.
Zirconium metal and alloy 193,450 lbs. 94,654. Padlock' of iron, steel, brass & bronze 146 521.
Magnesium powder 66 lbs. 75. Door locke of iron, steel, brass
Magnesium metal, n.e.s. 983,467 lbs. 208,475. bronze 5 doz. 55.
Molybdenum wire 396,527 lbs. 1,030,833. Wire bale ties 2,196,796 lbs. 103,900.
Ferromanganese 6,600 lbs. 1,272. Welding rods & wire, excl. electric 8,088,498 lbs. 1,487,802.
Vanadium ore & concentrate 5,395 lbs. 33,835. Wire on spools or coils, not cards 2,710,624 lbs. 270,830.
Metals & metal manufactures, n.e.s. --- 2,727,754. Wire, twisted 1,585
How about 4.5 billion tons of foodstuffs that helped areas of the Soviet Union to avoid famine in the winter of 1942.
A total 17.5bn tons of goods (not incl. food) was sent by the Allies incl. 430,000 trucks. It is easy to say the Germans could advance without them so why not the Soviets? but that ignores the slowness of the advance and the reliance on horses. Where were the Soviets going to get that man horses in 1942 onwards?..... Does anyone seriously think the Soviets were getting to Berlin before the Allies without this assistance?
So those that limit Allied involvement in the Soviet victory are as misguided as those who downplay the Soviet sacrifice. It's all political nonsense. It's just a shame it's so difficult to get a balanced view.
End of the day, according to no lesser source than Kruschev, Stalin himself admitted that the Soviets could not have won the war without Allied aid.
Take the Soviets out of the equation however, and the Western Allies are going to have a hard time defeating the Wehrmacht.
As much as some may not want to admit it (for whatever political or other purpose), the US, the Commonwealth and the Soviets needed each other.
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