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Dividing Line Between AGN and AGC - 7/6/2019 4:10:50 PM   
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Does anyone have a map of the dividing line between Army Group North and Army Group Center? I have the Large Ost maps but they are not all that accurate. Just someone in a Heer map room who prepared maps and drew a generalized dividing line on them. These appear to be 1:1000000 maps. Something closer to 1:500000 would work better.

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RE: Dividing Line Between AGN and AGC - 7/6/2019 5:18:53 PM   
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What period are you looking for? I take it you are looking for original German maps?

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RE: Dividing Line Between AGN and AGC - 7/6/2019 7:50:31 PM   
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There are some maps here?

https://history.army.mil/catalog/pubs/30/30-5.html


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RE: Dividing Line Between AGN and AGC - 7/6/2019 9:02:13 PM   
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Barbarossa campaign is what I need. AGN area of operations stays fairly consistent until some time after summer 1942.

Zovs, unfortunately that book has no map that early that helps.

I'll just go with the Large Ost I guess.

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RE: Dividing Line Between AGN and AGC - 7/7/2019 12:54:59 AM   
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I have links to hundreds of maps, i can take a look... or would maps from books provide enough detail? Or would maps from books provide enough detail? I have lots of books as well...

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RE: Dividing Line Between AGN and AGC - 7/7/2019 12:56:54 AM   
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RE: Dividing Line Between AGN and AGC - 7/7/2019 1:22:50 AM   
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For instance, Luther's book "Barbarossa Unleashed" includes eight fold-out maps for the period June-December 1941 at this level of detail:






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RE: Dividing Line Between AGN and AGC - 7/7/2019 1:23:44 AM   
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different period:




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RE: Dividing Line Between AGN and AGC - 7/7/2019 2:55:52 AM   
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Thanks for the scans. It looks a lot like the Large Ost but a little better detail. I'll use what you have here and what I have for farther east.

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RE: Dividing Line Between AGN and AGC - 7/7/2019 2:20:12 PM   
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the maps I have also go further east, I just sent one of two photos for each map. I'll try to take a bit higher quality scan of entire maps and post.

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RE: Dividing Line Between AGN and AGC - 7/7/2019 2:58:37 PM   
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anyway, two more maps, one from july:




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RE: Dividing Line Between AGN and AGC - 7/7/2019 2:59:28 PM   
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and one from December




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RE: Dividing Line Between AGN and AGC - 7/7/2019 5:31:56 PM   
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Interesting boundaries. They don't seem to follow easily identifiable roads or waterways.

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RE: Dividing Line Between AGN and AGC - 7/7/2019 11:47:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: 76mm

and one from December



They do differ a bit from the Large Ost when past the Western Dvina. Bit more to the south. That matters a great deal because of the rail line. Thanks.

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RE: Dividing Line Between AGN and AGC - 7/8/2019 1:37:38 AM   
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I sent the wrong link:

https://history.army.mil/html/books/030/30-12-1/CMH_Pub_30-12-1.pdf

Maps 2,3, and 5 show the boundaries but not as detailed as 76mm

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