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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/25/2019 9:23:25 PM   
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Thanks for the screenshots Larry!

The first attacks were probes to see what was up and how much resistance I would get and a bit of a recon, it hurt me more than you so I won't do too many more of those without escorts (Dhoh!) lol.

The other one you had it pegged, I threw everything in I could and it still cost me some. I am pretty good an combined arms land warfare and learning how to do naval in the pacific stuff with you! lol

I must have missed the message for the sunk BB and the damaged ones, I'll have to try to find them and hide them for rebuilds.

My other tactic is a big fat secret with my carrier task forces lol.

Having a hoot with you Larry!

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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/25/2019 10:02:38 PM   
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During the playback I noticed all the Chinese Communists kicking my ass and my troops need another two or three divisions and some CS, a lot more CS. I found a light bomber group ( flying mostly the Mary ) to move up there and I thought I'd restrict the range to just cover my troops plus a little margin and set it to three-dots to make the CS more serious. The aircraft are going to turn yellow and maybe red after just one strike probably, so I'll have to bring in several more bombers for a reserve and some fighters for a CAP for all the bombers. If I have four available bomber units then one can be flying a mission and the other three can be resting after having turned yellow or worse.

Ships probably won't help as all the combatants are so far away from the beach.





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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/25/2019 10:11:02 PM   
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Greetings from the two factions in China Comrade Larry lol

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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/25/2019 10:17:45 PM   
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I thought you guys might want to watch Don's moves during the playback. So I've attached the file I got from Don here below. Just unzip it and load the PBL file as if it's a saved game. My password is "password" without the quotes.

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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/25/2019 10:31:08 PM   
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Here's the supply situation in Malaya and as you can see there's way too little supply to do anything at all. If I had known that it was going to be so dreadfully low then I wouldn't have invaded. What in the world do I do now? I'll have to see if I can't blast through the bottleneck near Bangkok.




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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/25/2019 10:54:46 PM   
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Here's what I can see of the Pearl area. I can tell the types of ships but not their names. Pearl has lots of bombers and fighters and at least one PBY I believe. Several spotter planes. There's lots of ground units to choose from if I wanted to bomb something with my Emilys. Japan doesn't have any long-range strategic bombers so I don't have any serious weapons systems that can reach Pearl with any strength at all. Except the carriers. I'm wondering what kind of trouble I could cause by invading Pearl. I'll have to get Midway first to use it as a staging base. As a place to repair some of the damage of ships that have seen combat. Japan didn't have any repair yards this far away from the home islands except for Manila, Sarabaya Java, and I think Singapore and they couldn't use any of them until after they captured them and repaired them from any damage they might have from all the Jap bombing. Other than that they had a smaller repair yard at Okinawa, and one at Saigon. Oh yeah, there was a big shipyard at Hong Kong too. BB's are so large they have to re-arm at Hong Kong or the home islands in the WITP-AE game.




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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/25/2019 11:07:29 PM   
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Here's the shipyard at Yokohoma, just south of Tokyo. One of the new carriers is coming together for the Jap navy. It's the Shinason and can carry 70 planes at 32 knots and will be in combat in about a year from now. It's going to cost 4Meg Yen by the time it's done.




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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/25/2019 11:07:33 PM   
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I dismissed the list of battles and the playback started and I watched that and then various screens flashed and then there was this: According to this there's 3 BB's gone permanently and 5 that need to be repaired before he can use them again. Depending on how heavily damaged the ships are and how much port space is available he can either repair those at Pearl's ports or move them to the west coast for repair.






The 5 surviving BBs will return when they did in history after they were repaired. For now they are not in play or on the map. If they had not been sunk in the Pearl Harbor attack they would be in the game now.

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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/25/2019 11:14:15 PM   
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The 5 surviving BBs will return when they did in history after they were repaired. For now they are not in play or on the map. If they had not been sunk in the Pearl Harbor attack they would be in the game now.

Thanks for clearing that up, Thomas. I wish there was some way we could play this as a three-way so we could give you the Russians, or British, or all the minor allies for that matter. In one of my WITP-AE games with Brian about two years ago I was the Jap player and Brian was the Allies and I forgot about one squadron at Ominato that got left on a port attack mission and during the combat phase it attacked the port of Vladivostok and sank a sub and Brian's Soviet units were activated (about March of '42 ). It was an accident and Brian decided to just park the Soviet units where they were and ignore the activation for the rest of the game. I had by then so badly crippled the Jap economy that the game lasted for only another month or so.

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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/25/2019 11:41:35 PM   
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I saw lots of ship traffic in and out of Pearl and there were lots of shots that had Allied ships moving north for quite a ways and I immediately thought of Alaska and the far north, but I'm taking a look and I don't see anything at all. I don't have any eyes on this AO. So I have no idea what's lurking up here. I'll need to make sure I have some long range patrol planes stationed in the NE corner of the home islands to watch the northern approaches. I wonder if it's possible to station a spotter plane on a CL or a CA and drive up here to take a look around with the spotter plane as my eyes. I'll have to see if I can try that.




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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/26/2019 1:10:18 PM   
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Two of my favorite TOAW players and one of my favorite scenarios.

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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/26/2019 1:49:36 PM   
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Thanks Bamilus (forgot your real name, that purple octopus is scary...lol)

https://www.doi.gov/video/remembering-pearl-harbor

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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/26/2019 1:53:36 PM   
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Two of my favorite TOAW players and one of my favorite scenarios.

You just became my favorite reader. I'll see what I can do to entertain you. I'll try to be more aggressive than usual.

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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/26/2019 2:28:37 PM   
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Its fun playing Larry.

It reminds me of that old Cross of Iron movie with Steiner and I feel like that Major "We are attacking, no we are defending, no we are retreating" LOL

I am doing all three in both of our games lol, its a hoot!



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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/27/2019 2:26:06 PM   
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My dream is to get a decent PO for this game, even if they can't do everything perfectly. I just don't have time to play WITP AE or play a PBEM, unfortunately, but I'd have time to play this vs PO. Right now I gotta just live vicariously through you guys!

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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/27/2019 2:29:16 PM   
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My dream is to get a decent PO for this game, even if they can't do everything perfectly. I just don't have time to play WITP AE or play a PBEM, unfortunately, but I'd have time to play this vs PO. Right now I gotta just live vicariously through you guys!

The next best thing is to play yourself. I've done that. Roll a pair of dice to determine what your enemy will do. Better than no game at all.

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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/27/2019 2:53:30 PM   
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quote:

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My dream is to get a decent PO for this game, even if they can't do everything perfectly. I just don't have time to play WITP AE or play a PBEM, unfortunately, but I'd have time to play this vs PO. Right now I gotta just live vicariously through you guys!

The next best thing is to play yourself. I've done that. Roll a pair of dice to determine what your enemy will do. Better than no game at all.


True, and I've thought about that - it's just a huge scenario to do both sides. Will probably do it eventually.

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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/27/2019 4:02:13 PM   
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What happens when you let the computer play the computer? I think I heard that Thomas Harvey
the scenario designer as working on a version with a PO for the Allied side, or maybe the PO
was for the Jap side. It would be cool to the extreme if there was a PO for both sides.
Maybe that's what you should work on Bamilus dude. Lay down some crude objective tracks for both
sides and let them play each other and see if it works. How long could that take?

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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/27/2019 6:11:22 PM   
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Exactly, I laid down Objectives for both sides in my War in Europe scenario.

It's not that hard, just takes time.

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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/27/2019 8:01:45 PM   
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I'll try it this weekend, I don't have a lot of experience doing it but I've read your tutorial Larry so it shouldn't be super hard.

I forgot about computer vs computer, that's a good call.

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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/27/2019 8:26:38 PM   
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Go into deployment and set the right hand option to set objectives, right click on the map and set some for each formation. Most of my German infantry I used 9-15, same with other nations. You can also use multiple tracks to spice it up.

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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/28/2019 1:59:08 AM   
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Don counterattacked in the Hanoi area and I need to restore the front lines without gaps in it. I may need to ship some more troops to this spot.




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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/28/2019 2:09:31 AM   
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Here's what's happening in Malaya. I moved out the units I came ashore with and captured three airfields and some ports and I'm going to need some fresh troops to replace these because the supply levels are too low to operate.




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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/28/2019 4:09:05 AM   
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtP7o30Igcs




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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/28/2019 4:19:44 AM   
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Here's the supply situation in the PI right now. I need to capture Manila to really get a lot of supply flowing but the supply level is too low for operations so I'm thinking I'm probably going to need some fresh troops to keep the advance going. And I'll have to evacuate the tired ones to Formosa to refit. It might cause the advance to slow down if I don't do it soon.




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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/28/2019 6:14:58 AM   
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Here's what it looks like so far. I've captured Hong Kong and several ports at various places on the map. This is a new turn and I've only begun to move my units so the map is going to change and I'll have to post it again.




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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/28/2019 8:16:59 AM   
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Rangoon is occupied by the Indians and there's an Indian unit on the road to Bangkok that's parked far forword and I need to push somebody out there to oppose him so he doesn't move any closer. It looks like that short stack at Rangoon has an HQ unit and two small infantry units and I think one of my divisions might be able to push them out of the way if given enough ship support. There's some CD guns there so I'll have to bring some ships with heavy guns to defeat them. I'll need to take down Singapore first to be able to sail into Rangoon's waters without any hinderence to my supply flow. I've flown an Oscar squadron into the AO to provide some CAP for the bombers I'm going to bring into Bangkok. I need to put some recon on Rangoon so I can see what else is there. I'm not sure whether or not there's any ships parked at Rangoon. I'll have to bomb the port there and check it out.




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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/28/2019 8:29:30 AM   
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I've gotten ashore near Manila but the Allies have some RR arty and some stout American units there and I don't want to encur massive losses by attacking into the face of that. I think what I should do is probing attacks with lots of ship support. Also I'm going to run some more units into the area through the port at Batangas, and drive them to the SE side of Manila and push. I don't want to do a lot of aerial bombardment because he's got AA units there. I guess the answer is to use the ships.



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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/28/2019 10:02:03 AM   
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Part 11: Attack In The Central Pacific - Makin And Tarawa: Crusade In The Pacific: WWII
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RE: Pacific at War 1941-1945 v.3.63 Don is Allies - 6/28/2019 10:35:01 AM   
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Have you considered a second landing at Lingayen just behind the US unit facing your troops?

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