Just thought I’d chime in on this. Firstly, and perhaps most importantly, I do see some insults being thrown around. Please do avoid this, as the forums are for friendly chats – debates are encouraged but they must remain civil and avoid personal attacks.
Then onto the topic, I’ll advise what I’ve seen as well as throwing my 2 cents (pence) in. Which is the say that we all enjoy the hobby and the aim of the company is to provide games for all. Wargames as a term doesn’t have a strict definition: technically it is any game about war so does cover CoD, etc. However I’d personally say that Wargames in the traditional sense is simulations, of some form, of the tactical or strategic elements of the wars. Therefore WitE is as much a wargame as Frontline or Panzer Corps.
However I think the key thing is that there is, as you can see in this thread alone, a wider market for all kinds and as a company specialising in these we do try to provide for all. However note that games like WitE are huge Grand Strategy games, which take a lot of development time and balance, but are consequently some of the best simulations of the entire wars. I have certainly read from those invested in the series that they are practically simulations of the war, in the same way that CMANO is a simulation of Naval/Air combat.
These are the games for the most hard-core and we don’t intend to stop catering for these (WitE2 is on the horizon, Steel Tigers, among others). I am a fan of Grand Strategy games (though not really WW2 as a time period personally) and turns in such games can take hours/days and the game itself takes weeks, but this is the investment needed for these. For those who like these and want other suggestions from our catalogue, I’d say the Decisive Campaign series may also suit, and perhaps Advanced Tactics Gold too: lots of HQ elements, covering all elements of the wars from supply, strategic level and in some ways tactical levels.
Then you have what I’d define as mid-range games: Panzer Corps, Order of Battle, Strategic Command, etc. Panzer Corps and Order of Battle are more tactical games, whereas the SC series are Grand Strategy, but a lighter version of WitE nonetheless. These typically remove the wider strategic decisions or elements of supply in order to simplify the game. Here I’d expect turns to last less than an hour, and games can be completed within an evening.
Then there are the lite games: Frontline, the Doctrines, etc. These are very simple, perhaps not even simulating armour flank damage or supply or air combat at all, and if they do it is in a minimal way. Turns take minutes, and a game can be completed within an hour or two.
However all three have their niche. New users would start on the lighter games and then advance up the tiers. Then there are those who do crash through WitE all day but then like a PC or Frontline battle when they just want quick gratification. We do intend to provide for all.
Then again back to my personal experiences: I find I can enjoy both. I’m more a medieval or ancients guy, and I have spents weeks/months on Grand Strategies like Spartan or the Total War series (Medieval Total War 2 being one I’ve recently "completed"). These do take hours. In Medieval 2 recently I would play an hour or two a day/week and took Scotland within the first 5 turns (starting as England). However Hungary or Jerusalem in a “Hold 45 Provinces” game doesn’t take hours, but takes literal days or weeks and 40+ turns. (For those interested, according to Steam 61 hours played and in that time I’ve won one expanded campaign. I bought it in Feb, and only completed it at the weekend – yes I’ve played other games in the meantime, but a GS game takes that length of time.)
Spartan is a game I’ve invested literal years of my life in since it released in 2005, and I don’t view a game as won until I hold the entire map. So I’d have a supply line of garrison troops running from the top left (my best towns for building troops) to the bottom right and doing a turn with that many units (blocks of 6 units, which takes 2 turns to build said block) takes hours in-game, and often I’d play a turn or so a day as a result. But it is a huge investment for the joy of looking at the minimap and seeing it all your colour. Crusader Kings 2 is one which I recently played for the first time, and while it is Medieval Total War 2++, I'm sure I will like getting stuck into it when I grasp the concepts of how to play.
However, I do play P&S or FoG when I want a quick battle, or even games which are more smashy smashy or pew pew when I don’t want to have to think at all. Each has their niche, and none are wrong for playing what they enjoy, so find the games you like to play and enjoy them.
P.S. MrsWargamer, you may like Order of Battle. As I said I'm not a fan of the time period, but did enjoy it. It is PC, but with more supply elements (and other differences), so if you like one you will like the other. And as you say, you can play the first mission of each campaign for free and see if you like this, then pick the campaigns where you prefer to play that part of the war