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How is this game? - 5/24/2019 11:18:41 AM   
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Love me war games and this looks massive. How daunting is this game ad now much more complicated is this over WiTE? Also is this Wego as opposed to the WiTE system? Please let me know. Oh, and does this ever go on sale?
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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 11:21:54 AM   
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Yes its WEGO.

Leaves WITE in the dust when it comes to level of detail.

Very steep learning curve.

Once you experience the war with one day turns you will never have a desire to go back to games with weekly turns.

Was hugely disappointed in WITW due to the weekly turns and heavily abstracted air game.

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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 11:39:32 AM   
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New player here, therefore I can answer few quesions:

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How daunting is this game ad now much more complicated is this over WiTE?


This game has a really steep learning curve but is totally worth the time spent on it, anyhow you are not alone because lot of forumites are helping me, moreover you can find dozen of helpful threads.

I don't know for WitE but I think is more complex.

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Also is this Wego as opposed to the WiTE system?


Absolutely better, you don't know your opponent moves and you cannot plot your plans knowing where the enemy units are placed because they can change position before you reach them, and in a naval game this is a huge bonus!

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Oh, and does this ever go on sale?


Not sure, maybe holidays sales.

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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 11:49:00 AM   
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Great game. It is the best value in a war game that you will ever experience. And yes, it goes on sale a few times a year. Oh, did I say it's a GREAT GAME.....GP

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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 11:50:40 AM   
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How did you guys learn the game?is there an online tutorial on YouTube and you guys can recommend or good read that would help me get started? I do have war in the east but I get kind of bored with it even though I don't know exactly what I'm doing as far as supply and the supply chain but I just hate that's system I rather wego. And I like more naval and air warfare as opposed to ground or combination of three. Please let me know thanks.

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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 12:08:54 PM   
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I learned by just playing the game and restarting as nescessary. It's like on the job training. Also, you must read the manual. Even though it's a little bit dated. Then read some of the how to stuff and some AAR's. Some of the other players will steer you to the best reading material. Scenario wise, I started with scenario 1 and restarted a bunch of times. Some knowledge of the pacific war is helpful. But even after playing WITPAE and classic WITP I still learn something new every day. I also forget something new every day. Well, jump in and have fun....GP

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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 12:15:10 PM   
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Also why snt this game on Steam like GG other games?

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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 12:21:33 PM   
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The game has been out for almost 10 years and is supported by a very active forum community and is not supported by the developers any longer. So no steam release....GP

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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 12:37:26 PM   
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So this game that is so old still stands up in today's WW2 type similar games? Just wondering if it is worth 80 dollars or should I get a more present day WW2 similar game wil dlc's? Unless there is o game that can match this one?

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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 12:42:26 PM   
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The Useful Info for Beginners thread is well, useful for getting an idea of the resources available on the forums.

To get an idea of the gameplay, here's a current "Let's Play" style multiplayer campaign on YouTube from both the Allied and Japanese perspectives.

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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 12:42:56 PM   
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quote:

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So this game that is so old still stands up in today's WW2 type similar games? Just wondering if it is worth 80 dollars or should I get a more present day WW2 similar game wil dlc's? Unless there is o game that can match this one?



I came to this from Hearts of Iron 3. This game leaves Hearts of Iron in the dust.

Nothing has came close to this game regarding emulating the Pacific War, and I've played most all the big titles out there.

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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 12:49:42 PM   
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Is installing this game on Win 10 a pain or just a regular install?

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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 12:54:06 PM   
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quote:

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So this game that is so old still stands up in today's WW2 type similar games? Just wondering if it is worth 80 dollars or should I get a more present day WW2 similar game wil dlc's? Unless there is o game that can match this one?



Most of us have played numerous strategy games over the years. I got started way back with the Axis & Allies board game when home computers were still relatively rare.

I agree 100% with mind_messing, no game matches this for depth in the Pacific theater. There are titles with better graphics out there, but you'll lose much of the depth to get them. Also, the graphics of WitP:AE have a charm of their own and were made easily moddable by the devs. I've modified everything from the map, UI, unit art, icons, you name it. My install looks nothing like when I first installed it. Many graphical enhancements are freely available on the forums in addition to new scenarios made by a passionate community.

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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 12:57:14 PM   
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Do I need SeaBee to install this game? And how does one install said mods? Think I will pick this game up today :) My wife is gonna kill me lol...

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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 12:57:23 PM   
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quote:

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Is installing this game on Win 10 a pain or just a regular install?



There's a little bit of tweaking required at first to get the game running just right for your particular computer, and it primarily has to do with using the correct "switches" on the executable. I made a utility to help with that - see my signature. The game runs perfectly on my Win 10 machine. Once I got the right combination of switches for my machine, I haven't needed to tweak any settings since.

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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 1:00:54 PM   
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SeaBee is not required to install the game, but it's intended to make configuring it much faster and easier than doing it manually. The mods are scattered about the forums, but any of the regulars here can help point you to the appropriate place(s) based upon what you're interested in.

I'm also working on an "art guide", so be on the lookout for that in the near future. It will attempt to link to all of the graphical mods in one convenient place, and I'll update it if I miss any.

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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 1:07:54 PM   
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Thank you, I am presently watching The Historical Gamer vs XTRG allies vs Japan and the map looks great. Do you know what mods he is using and where to get them or is that the default map and graphics?

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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 1:08:35 PM   
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quote:

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Do I need SeaBee to install this game? And how does one install said mods? Think I will pick this game up today :) My wife is gonna kill me lol...


It only hurts for a minute or so ....GP

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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 1:11:40 PM   
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quote:

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Thank you, I am presently watching The Historical Gamer vs XTRG allies vs Japan and the map looks great. Do you know what mods he is using and where to get them or is that the default map and graphics?


I'm sure he's using ChemKids maps, they're currently in the void as my understanding is that they got hit on the head for copyright reasons.

Best bet is to ask over at XTRG's discord server.

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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 1:19:28 PM   
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DOCUP put up a Dropbox with the maps.

I wasn't aware of any copyright issue, but that would explain the manner of Chemkid's departure from the forums.

The UI and combat screens can be obtained from Jace's Site (the UI elements are called "Map Borders" there).

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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 1:35:51 PM   
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As an example of what can be done with the game's art -

I use a modified version of Chemkid's YamatoDamashii SunnyDay map where I added in new locations to suit my needs. For instance, in the Solomons I added base names like Milne Bay and Vella La Vella (had to - just look at my avatar). Jace's interface was also modified to have a black background where the base info and unit icons are displayed to make it easier to read.



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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 1:41:53 PM   
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How did you guys learn the game?







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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 2:14:01 PM   
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I have my trigger finger on the buy button. The only thing holding me back is that lack of tutorials on youtube... Please help, I want this game so bad but dont want to but it and just let it sit on my hard drive because I don't know wth i'm doing lol.

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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 2:18:04 PM   
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I have my trigger finger on the buy button. The only thing holding me back is that lack of tutorials on youtube... Please help, I want this game so bad but dont want to but it and just let it sit on my hard drive because I don't know wth i'm doing lol.


Start small.

The game comes with a bunch of scenarios as well as the grand campaign.

Each of those scenarios is a mini-tutorial.

Coral Sea is carrier battles, Thousand Mile War is amphib invasions and naval combat and Guadalcanal is a much smaller version of the grand campaign.

There's good AAR's aplenty for you to read, and the forum is pretty great for folk asking questions.

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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 2:18:08 PM   
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Maybe there will be a midsummer sale this year?

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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 2:26:32 PM   
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There could be a Memorial Day sale or D-Day sale. Either way, full price is still cheaper in fractions of pennies per hour played than any other game I've ever bought.

Don't fret the lack of you tube tutorials, etc. There is a ton of helpful information on this very active forum and a bunch of very helpful fellow players. If you have any interest in the theater at all and like complex games, you will NOT be disappointed.

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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 2:34:37 PM   
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Yes very much interested. I have WiTE and although not good at it, it is fun. I do prefer more then just land combat. Is there an AAR or something that I can play along with that I can possible learn from? And I am going to but it so where can I get the maps that you guys recommended and where do they get installed? Thank you :)

Also I should get WiTP Admirals Edition correct?

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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 2:41:49 PM   
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AAR forum is full of good examples.

This one is geared toward explaining the game to newbies:

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4542674


Yes, Admirals Edition is the newer upgraded version of the original game.

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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 2:50:08 PM   
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There are tutorials on Youtube but you have to check the forum for a better understanding of the game. Said that this game is amazing but not good for casual play

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RE: How is this game? - 5/24/2019 2:55:19 PM   
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Yeah, not looking for casual play looking to dive deep into something that will keep my busy but don't want to jump into the deep end all at once lol...

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