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Sequel to Das Boot - 5/21/2019 8:22:35 AM   
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Well, different theater but I guess it counts....

https://www.metacritic.com/tv/das-boot-2019/season-1

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RE: Sequel to Das Boot - 5/21/2019 9:00:45 AM   
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I sure hope they realize why the original was so good.

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RE: Sequel to Das Boot - 5/21/2019 2:12:56 PM   
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Das Boot was one of best war movie ever. I really can't see that being topped, as the original was so damn good. I hope any movie that tries to top the original can somehow maintain the intensity and desperation of the original.

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RE: Sequel to Das Boot - 5/21/2019 4:26:04 PM   
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Surely I will watch this serie even if I will doubt it will be good as the original movie.

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RE: Sequel to Das Boot - 5/21/2019 4:29:49 PM   
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It came out in Europe a few months ago already. Has nothing to do with Das Boot apart from the fact that it shares the name. Actually, it looks more like some sort of real-life gameplay of UBOAT instead (you know, when they send you on unbelievable missions or ask you if you want to kill the cook).

Apart from that good drama, but it is absolutely NOT Das Boot. It's half a u-boat-centered adventure story at sea, half a crime novel on land. As long as you understand that it is NOT trying to recreate the original work, then all is fine. You'll be able to enjoy the show much better.

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RE: Sequel to Das Boot - 5/21/2019 5:18:04 PM   
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It came out in Europe a few months ago already. Has nothing to do with Das Boot apart from the fact that it shares the name. Actually, it looks more like some sort of real-life gameplay of UBOAT instead (you know, when they send you on unbelievable missions or ask you if you want to kill the cook).

Apart from that good drama, but it is absolutely NOT Das Boot. It's half a u-boat-centered adventure story at sea, half a crime novel on land. As long as you understand that it is NOT trying to recreate the original work, then all is fine. You'll be able to enjoy the show much better.



Oh...this is disappointing

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RE: Sequel to Das Boot - 5/21/2019 5:53:23 PM   
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Crime Story ? Someone murders a person in a U-Boat ? like that?



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RE: Sequel to Das Boot - 5/21/2019 6:34:42 PM   
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Nope. Or yes, the Uboat part develops into something dark indeed, even though completely uncanny and highly questionable. Still, good fun.

Actually the two protagonists are a brother and a sister from Alsace. One is the radioman aboard a Uboat (last minute replacement), the other one just got affected as a translator and typist to 3.U-Flottille HQ. They're being frowned upon fornot being completely German of birth. The guy at sea has to endure the growing rivalry between a new Kapitanleutnant and his XO, the girl on the shore gotta try to unf*ck some complicated issues her brother left behind, that will end up getting her involved in stories with the French underground, people with whom obviously a German soldier does not belong.

And GoT's Man with no name plays the Gestapo commander of La Rochelle, which makes it all worth watching at the end

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RE: Sequel to Das Boot - 5/21/2019 7:08:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: oaltinyay

Well, different theater but I guess it counts....

https://www.metacritic.com/tv/das-boot-2019/season-1
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This is what I wrote about it earlier this year in the GD forum:

Well I got through all 8 episodes of the first series. A bit of a mixed bag really.

Firstly, this is nothing like the original version - which is good because it would be incredibly difficult to match that, let alone top it.

So probably the best way to approach it is to ignore the title and just look at it as a WWII yarn set in occupied France. I think there was probably a 50/50 split, give or take, between the u-boat action and the action on terra firma.

The u-boat sequences were done well enough, although the actual storyline probably won't please the purists. Annoyingly the storyline takes the route so many (especially latter day) war films take and have too much in-fighting between the crew. I find this formulaic and often totally uninteresting.

The action on land is okay - although the storyline is a little simple and one or two scenes appear fanciful. I get the feeling that the story telling could have been made much more tense than was the case - I felt the suspense was missing and we are talking about the Gestapo here and a good old fashioned cat and mouse scenario so should not have been difficult to do.

But taken on its own, without any comparisons with the original, was this worth watching? Yes I think so, and certainly worth a second series.


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RE: Sequel to Das Boot - 5/21/2019 8:57:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: oaltinyay

Well, different theater but I guess it counts....

https://www.metacritic.com/tv/das-boot-2019/season-1
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This is what I wrote about it earlier this year in the GD forum:

Well I got through all 8 episodes of the first series. A bit of a mixed bag really.

Firstly, this is nothing like the original version - which is good because it would be incredibly difficult to match that, let alone top it.

So probably the best way to approach it is to ignore the title and just look at it as a WWII yarn set in occupied France. I think there was probably a 50/50 split, give or take, between the u-boat action and the action on terra firma.

The u-boat sequences were done well enough, although the actual storyline probably won't please the purists. Annoyingly the storyline takes the route so many (especially latter day) war films take and have too much in-fighting between the crew. I find this formulaic and often totally uninteresting.

The action on land is okay - although the storyline is a little simple and one or two scenes appear fanciful. I get the feeling that the story telling could have been made much more tense than was the case - I felt the suspense was missing and we are talking about the Gestapo here and a good old fashioned cat and mouse scenario so should not have been difficult to do.

But taken on its own, without any comparisons with the original, was this worth watching? Yes I think so, and certainly worth a second series.


It does have Vicky Krieps and Lizzy Caplan.




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RE: Sequel to Das Boot - 5/22/2019 1:52:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Zorch

It does have Vicky Krieps and Lizzy Caplan.



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RE: Sequel to Das Boot - 5/22/2019 6:11:53 PM   
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Das Booty would be only one. I think that would be Dos Booties!

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RE: Sequel to Das Boot - 5/23/2019 9:23:08 AM   
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Booty and the Best?

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RE: Sequel to Das Boot - 5/23/2019 3:14:16 PM   
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RE: Sequel to Das Boot - 5/23/2019 3:16:45 PM   
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Another thing to point out. The ethnic Germans who were not in Germany and/or Austria in 1938 or so were not treated very well by the Nazis. They were always suspect. Some of them came from the Ukraine and Southern Russia where their ancestors were invited by Catherine the Great. They were then repatriated after the war back to the USSR where they did not fair that well either.

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RE: Sequel to Das Boot - 5/23/2019 7:02:12 PM   
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Does it have LeBeau and Sgt. Kinchloe?

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RE: Sequel to Das Boot - 5/24/2019 6:28:37 AM   
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Hi all,

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ORIGINAL: Fishbed

It came out in Europe a few months ago already. Has nothing to do with Das Boot apart from the fact that it shares the name. Actually, it looks more like some sort of real-life gameplay of UBOAT instead (you know, when they send you on unbelievable missions or ask you if you want to kill the cook).

Apart from that good drama, but it is absolutely NOT Das Boot. It's half a u-boat-centered adventure story at sea, half a crime novel on land. As long as you understand that it is NOT trying to recreate the original work, then all is fine. You'll be able to enjoy the show much better.


I watched just 30+ minutes when it come out few months ago... never bothered to check TV schedule for other episodes...


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RE: Sequel to Das Boot - 5/24/2019 8:25:18 AM   
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It just needs Ben Afflick to be a true international WWII success!

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RE: Sequel to Das Boot - 6/21/2019 12:30:21 PM   
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Another thing to point out. The ethnic Germans who were not in Germany and/or Austria in 1938 or so were not treated very well by the Nazis. They were always suspect. Some of them came from the Ukraine and Southern Russia where their ancestors were invited by Catherine the Great. They were then repatriated after the war back to the USSR where they did not fair that well either.


AFAIK, the Ukrainians Germans behaved like ethnic Ukrainians. In the eyes of Nazi Germans, the Ukrainian Germans were slovenly, unreliable and liked to drink. A case of culture trumping ethnicity and race.

I guess this observation was noted in "Nazi Empire-Building and the Holocaust in Ukraine" by Wendy Lower.


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RE: Sequel to Das Boot - 6/22/2019 2:20:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Apollo11


I watched just 30+ minutes when it come out few months ago... never bothered to check TV schedule for other episodes...


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Thanks, I now know not to waste any time looking for it.


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RE: Sequel to Das Boot - 6/22/2019 10:57:26 PM   
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Season 2 will have Cthulu make an appearance.

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RE: Sequel to Das Boot - 6/23/2019 9:48:27 AM   
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It is coming...
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RE: Sequel to Das Boot - 6/23/2019 10:38:31 PM   
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I'm sure the inclusion of the disproportionately large female plot-line has nothing to do with this show being bad.

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RE: Sequel to Das Boot - 6/24/2019 4:39:57 AM   
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I'm sure the inclusion of the disproportionately large female plot-line has nothing to do with this show being bad.

It doesn't. The show was never intended to be a naval drama along the lines of Das Boot. It is about the Resistance and other spies trying to get information about U-boats and their operations. I imagine code secrets and such. Female agents were quite effective during the war and, in the show, lend a little more drama to the "agent in danger" plot device.

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RE: Sequel to Das Boot - 6/24/2019 5:09:33 AM   
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No need to feed the troll.

How this man can hate so much the opposite sex to the point of blaming it for pretty much every problem on Earth in the military and elsewhere eventually leads me to the conclusion that he blames women primarily and quite logically for his own mere existence too. Which seems, granted, quite a sin in itself already.

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RE: Sequel to Das Boot - 6/24/2019 5:40:09 AM   
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I'm sure the inclusion of the disproportionately large female plot-line has nothing to do with this show being bad.
warspite1

Well its all a matter of opinion, but the show - while not a classic so far - is certainly not bad. If anyone wants to compare to the original so they can get all over-excited about how it doesn't compare to the original, then they can but its a pointless exercise as only the name remains.

But I agree about the number of women in the show spoiling it. I mean were there even women in olden times and certainly not as late as World War II? I think its just PC conspiracy theorist nonsense and we all know women didn't even exist until like the 50's or something. Get them off!! thats what I say.


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RE: Sequel to Das Boot - 6/24/2019 2:59:47 PM   
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No need to feed the troll.

How this man can hate so much the opposite sex to the point of blaming it for pretty much every problem on Earth in the military and elsewhere eventually leads me to the conclusion that he blames women primarily and quite logically for his own mere existence too. Which seems, granted, quite a sin in itself already.



It isn't "hate", it's reality. If they don't have women in war movies the "ticket sales" aren't there to justify making the movie. Simple economics.

A good war movie that had an important female lead was Tae Guk Gi. That one worked, but it usually spells disaster for movies. See Pearl Harbor for it's nauseating effect on the story.

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RE: Sequel to Das Boot - 6/24/2019 4:12:44 PM   
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If they don't have women in war movies the "ticket sales" aren't there to justify making the movie. Simple economics.

warspite1

What has that statement got to do with "I'm sure the inclusion of the disproportionately large female plot-line has nothing to do with this show being bad"?? You imply by that that one follows the other - which is something of a generalisation no? Kind of difficult not to have Alexandra Maria Lara in Downfall given the perspective of the film - she was hardly brought in to justify ticket sales - or, in your opinion, did woman ruin the film too?

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See Pearl Harbor for it's nauseating effect on the story.

warspite1

The excruciating script, Rafe Macauley's storyline and Ben Affleck's acting did that very well all on their own. That film had a great many problems before blame can be laid at Miss Beckinsdale's door.


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RE: Sequel to Das Boot - 6/24/2019 4:17:24 PM   
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No need to feed the troll.

How this man can hate so much the opposite sex to the point of blaming it for pretty much every problem on Earth in the military and elsewhere eventually leads me to the conclusion that he blames women primarily and quite logically for his own mere existence too. Which seems, granted, quite a sin in itself already.



It isn't "hate", it's reality. If they don't have women in war movies the "ticket sales" aren't there to justify making the movie. Simple economics.

A good war movie that had an important female lead was Tae Guk Gi. That one worked, but it usually spells disaster for movies. See Pearl Harbor for it's nauseating effect on the story.


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