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Goblins on the doorstep - 5/6/2019 12:16:30 PM   
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Having successfully slowed the Soviet subs moving towards the GIUK gap, it is time to get the HMS Revenge into play.




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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/6/2019 12:17:01 PM   
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Here are my orders




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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/6/2019 12:18:04 PM   
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The orders did not give me too much information on the possible enemy units at play in this area. Only that they are likely to be Soviet subs.




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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/6/2019 12:18:45 PM   
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I've been given some advice already and here are my initial thoughts...




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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/6/2019 1:11:19 PM   
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Yes, your surface ships may be expendable, but take special care of HMS Matapan.
Although relatively toothless she has the best sonar of the surf escorts.

Good luck.

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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/6/2019 1:32:47 PM   
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Don't bother with misdirection, the AI just doesn't make such advanced logic steps. Works in a full binary logic, if detects a contact of relevant type for its mission prosecutes it, if it's not of a relevant type ignores it (unless it has usable weapons against the contact, then it can take potshots at it, range and ROE permitting, but will not change course to do it). If it has no contacts of a relevant type, keeps patrolling on a random path (within patrol area).

The only misdirection that COULD work here is making a submarine reveal itself making noise or pinging. So as to give the enemy subs a GOBLIN contact other than the Revenge for them to prosecute.

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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/6/2019 1:43:59 PM   
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Ancalagon,

Thanks for this. I will stick with a straight up plan!

Have a good day,

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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/6/2019 2:37:57 PM   
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Here is the plan. I have to set up the missions to match it.




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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/6/2019 4:53:29 PM   
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I have played with the RoEs and doctrine a little and set up the missions. About time to hit start!




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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/6/2019 5:03:55 PM   
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A caution on the ASW strike mission. I cannot recall the scenario but if they are from 3 different ships they may all launch on a contact. If you have biologics in the area you could run out of choppers really quick. In a scenario this small you may want to micro that or have just one on the mission and backfill him once he launches.

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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/6/2019 5:38:06 PM   
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Bart,

Good point, thanks.

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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/6/2019 5:56:00 PM   
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60 minutes in, no contact yet.




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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/6/2019 5:56:29 PM   
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Contact!!!




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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/6/2019 6:04:35 PM   
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Mike,

Sometimes, even though the ROE for a side might be to not fire on unidentified ASW contacts, the default ROE for an ASW patrol mission (which I assume is what your helicopters are assigned to) is weapons free for ASW contacts. It's highly debated and the source of many false error reports, but for the time being, Mission ROE overrules Side ROE and possibly even Unit ROE. I would take a look at the ROE for the mission your helicopters are assigned to. Hope this helps.

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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/6/2019 7:01:26 PM   
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Excroat3,

You are correct, the ASW RoE was set to Free. Makes sense, unless there are whales/fish in the area.

Thanks,

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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/6/2019 7:03:03 PM   
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Thirty minutes after contact




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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/6/2019 7:03:30 PM   
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Not another one...




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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/6/2019 11:55:19 PM   
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I'm confused, my sub keeps going the wrong way




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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/7/2019 12:05:11 AM   
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Perhaps change Auto evasion to NO. This has its risks but IIRC Boomers are very sensitive to any threat and it may be trying to evade the sub detected to the west.

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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/7/2019 12:05:33 AM   
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Might be some sort of weird AI course plotting issue. Try re-plotting the Revenge's course, possibly? Also, you can find some clues as to what your sub is doing by looking at its Status (right side of screen, 1st "box" of info). Is it following a plotted course, engaged defensive, or tasked to a mission?

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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/7/2019 1:13:11 AM   
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Hi Guys,

I tried re-plotting a couple of times. I checked the Status and it says engaged offensive (Underway). Under RoE, the Revenge is tagged "Yes" for ignore plotted course. I will try changing that and switching the auto evasion to No.

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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/7/2019 6:45:56 AM   
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Might have to unassign and re-assign now that you’ve turned evasion off

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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/7/2019 9:26:03 AM   
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Morning All,

Thanks for the suggestions. I'm going to learn from this and restart. I had my planes and helicopters too far out to assist. So, I'm going to give them better zones. I'm also going to change up the RoE for the Revenge.

I really appreciate your suggestions!

Have a good day,

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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/7/2019 9:41:13 AM   
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The plan does not change much at this level - the devil is in the details




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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/7/2019 9:41:38 AM   
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The initial set up for the Revenge




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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/7/2019 9:56:12 AM   
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I have changed up the air missions a bit:




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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/8/2019 10:13:06 AM   
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I'm being trailed...




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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/8/2019 10:13:50 AM   
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That was tense for a bit. It was fun watching the Plymouth shoot at the Mayak.




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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/9/2019 1:18:31 AM   
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Found another sub.






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RE: Goblins on the doorstep - 5/9/2019 1:19:34 AM   
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It is a Mayak




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