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McBride's Scenarios - Converted / Updated - 4/25/2019 2:40:14 PM   
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So I took the liberty (I guess I should not have...) to convert and update all of McBrides files I have (11) to TOAW IV (4.1.0.29).

The updates bring all of his scenarios up to TOAW IV (4.1.0.21) standards. This update includes:

  • Updating the text portion so that the header and the scenario are a bit more readable
  • Updated the text to be consistent across of of his scenarios
  • Updated the version on the map (where applicable)
  • Renamed each scenario to be the updated version and also updated all the PDF/Word docs to the new file version as well


Here is a link to my drop box account for these files:
link and files deleted/removed...


Here is a screen shot of what I am trying to convey / fix.



NOTE: Removed the files for below reasons...

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RE: McBride's Scenarios - Converted / Updated - 4/25/2019 5:44:45 PM   
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Is McBride going to sue us now? I downloaded DNO....thanks muchly.

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RE: McBride's Scenarios - Converted / Updated - 4/25/2019 7:30:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

Is McBride going to sue us now? I downloaded DNO....thanks muchly.


I doubt it, lol, he should be glad his name lives on and we are reliving his dreams...lol Thanks Daniel!

I had some good conversations with him way back in the day, he is a really nice fellow and interesting and intense as well. That is how I got (the only one left that I know of) his Sevastopol City scenario as a play test, it's fantastic. I played him from both sides in Trappenjagd as a play test and also in Tobruck and El Alamain. Its been many many years since I have heard from him (my old email addy is long since dead).

I wonder whatever happened to him.

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RE: McBride's Scenarios - Converted / Updated - 4/25/2019 10:11:07 PM   
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To my knowledge he is still Stauffenberg and can be found here: http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=18&sid=54ace3fb33e1ddf93e3babb3ad45dd9b

Feel free to ask him how he feels about you posting his scenarios for TOAW

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RE: McBride's Scenarios - Converted / Updated - 4/26/2019 12:46:32 AM   
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I have never used that forum before, if he has an issue I can pull them off. Don't know anything about Commander - Europe at War.

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RE: McBride's Scenarios - Converted / Updated - 4/26/2019 1:21:41 AM   
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From the TOAWIII manual:

MATRIX PUBLISHING, LLC. LICENSE AGREEMENT

THE ENCLOSED SOFTWARE PROGRAM AND THIS MANUAL ARE COPYRIGHTED. ALL RIGHTS ARE RESERVED. THE ORIGINAL PURCHASER MAY PRINT OR HAVE A PRINT/COPY SHOP MAKE A PRINTOUT AND/OR COPY OF THE MANUAL. MATRIX PUBLISHING, LLC GRANTS THE ORIGINAL PURCHASER OF THIS SOFTWARE PACKAGE THE RIGHT TO USE ONE COPY OF THE SOFTWARE PROGRAM. YOU MAY NOT RENT OR LEASE IT, DISASSEMBLE, DE COMPILE, REVERSE ENGINEER, OR MODIFY THE SOFTWARE IN ANYWAY. ALL EDITORS MAY BE USED TO CREATE SCENARIOS THAT MAY BE FREELY DISTRIBUTED. ALL SCENARIO AUTHORS HOLD THE ULTIMATE RIGHTS TO THEIR DESIGNED SCENARIOS AND MATRIX PUBLISHING, LLC MAKES NO CLAIMS THEREOF. YOU MAY NOT COPY OR DISTRIBUTE COPIES IN ANY MEDIA FORM. ANY PERSONS DOING SO SHALL BE GUILTY OF COPYRIGHT VIOLATION AND SUBJECT TO THE APPROPRIATE CIVIL OR CRIMINAL ACTION AT THE DISCRETION OF THE COPYRIGHT HOLDER.

Just sayin.

Out of respect for all of his hard work on these you should at least attempt to contact him since he specifically said he didn't want them used.

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RE: McBride's Scenarios - Converted / Updated - 4/26/2019 7:40:23 PM   
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Okay, not sure what the TOAW III Matrix license agreement has to do with anything.

I don't understand why he would not want his scenarios to be played. I'll try to contact him and if its a big deal just delete them out of my drop box.

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RE: McBride's Scenarios - Converted / Updated - 4/26/2019 7:41:04 PM   
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I guess I should have read the bold fine point. Seems bizarre to me.

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RE: McBride's Scenarios - Converted / Updated - 4/26/2019 7:42:02 PM   
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I mean it's like...

Hey I created this really cool scenario but I don't want anyone to have it or play it...

Just seems odd to me, but that is okay. I'll just delete the drop box thing anyway...

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RE: McBride's Scenarios - Converted / Updated - 4/26/2019 7:43:17 PM   
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Okay folks that was deleted...sorry for the offense, disruption and chaos it caused...

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RE: McBride's Scenarios - Converted / Updated - 4/26/2019 7:46:50 PM   
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Okay, all cleaned up.

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RE: McBride's Scenarios - Converted / Updated - 4/26/2019 8:54:13 PM   
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You should have asked him, after all you did say that he is a 'nice fellow' and that 'he should be glad his name lives on', right?
Then again, if you 'don't understand why he would not want his scenarios to be played' then maybe you don't know him as well as you think.

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RE: McBride's Scenarios - Converted / Updated - 4/26/2019 9:54:02 PM   
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Well I have not talked with him in 10 years or more...

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RE: McBride's Scenarios - Converted / Updated - 4/27/2019 2:15:39 AM   
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You should drop him a note. If you've worked with him in the past maybe he'll let you use his stuff. At the worst he might say no. Never hurts to try.

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RE: McBride's Scenarios - Converted / Updated - 4/27/2019 9:41:12 AM   
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I could not find him over there, found a Pete Stauffenberg but no Daniel.

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RE: McBride's Scenarios - Converted / Updated - 4/27/2019 12:09:25 PM   
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Found lots of links with a simple Google search.
This one might be best:
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/showProfile.asp?memid=8213
or
http://armchairgeneral.com/interview-daniel-mcbride-on-toaw-3.htm
http://www.gamesquad.com/forums/index.php?threads/daniel-mcbrides-toaw-design-forum.155/

You could ask over at The Blitz Wargaming Club. And since he did work on TOAWIII you could ask some senior personnel here at Matrix and/or Slitherine. I really don't think he would be that hard to 'find'.

Unless of course he wants to have nothing to do with TOAW or Matrix which would explain why he wants his scenarios left alone. People get that way for personal reasons sometimes.


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RE: McBride's Scenarios - Converted / Updated - 7/26/2019 8:36:33 PM   
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Really angry was so excited to be able to play those scenarios again on IV. Is there not statute of limitation on work abandoned in digital public space?

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RE: McBride's Scenarios - Converted / Updated - 7/26/2019 9:04:10 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Akmatov

Really angry was so excited to be able to play those scenarios again on IV. Is there not statute of limitation on work abandoned in digital public space?


70 years after death of author in USA. And he doesn't really have to defend his copyright, it's not a patent or a trademark. Creator owns the rights unless they otherwise specifically waive them. The simply act of creating something grants you automatic copyright protections that don't ever have to be renewed, so you can't really "abandon" a copyright unless you basically come out and waive your copyright.

Source: me, CPA with limited understanding of business law

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RE: McBride's Scenarios - Converted / Updated - 7/26/2019 11:38:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Akmatov

Really angry was so excited to be able to play those scenarios again on IV. Is there not statute of limitation on work abandoned in digital public space?


I really don't think anyone has a problem with passing these around person to person.

I was forced to say that. My cat was threatening me. I was under duress. I'm not liable.

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RE: McBride's Scenarios - Converted / Updated - 7/27/2019 11:45:48 AM   
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Well that Peter is not Daniel.

I was thinking of making adjustments to all these to make them work properly for TOAW IV.

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RE: McBride's Scenarios - Converted / Updated - 7/27/2019 8:13:55 PM   
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I had asked him back in 2011 if I could fix some things in his Braunschweig scenario and he gave permission but with several stipulations.
But he also stated that he "almost never given permission to have my work altered". In the case of the Braunschweig scenario he seemed to allow me to fix things because he worked on something bigger called "Drang nach Asien" that would cover much more than Braunschweig did and would basically replace it. A pity that this scenario never seems to have been released.

So maybe there is a chance that he allows fixes if something is clearly broken. Not sure if he would allow changes of such minor nature like in post 1 as these do not look like something broken is to be fixed, anyhow asking is always a try worth.

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