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ORIGINAL: Hellen_slith

Not sure if this is right or not, but the NATO units Alouette IIs have a "bombardment range" in the unit detail, but there is not a "range" button in the screen that lets you set the range. I think those should have range option?

Looks like it might be all of those, the ones I've looked at so far all are missing the option to set range.

Some range would help there around Lubeck, looks like WP sure has a lot of tanks pointed at Lubeck

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ORIGINAL: sapper32

Hey guys im not sure if you have updated the units in this scenario but ive noticed that the British 16th Parachute brigade appears after a few turns however this formation was disbanded in 1976? The para battalions attatched were put into 5th Infantry Brigade minus one which was stationed in Ulster, Also 3rd Airmobile division isn't correct only 24 Brigade was airmobile don't think the 9th Brigade stayed active after 1965 and as mentioned earlier in the post 5 Brigade was UK based for out of area operations, British 3rd Division was an Armoured division from 1976 based in Germany as part of BR I Corps.

Ian

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ORIGINAL: Hellen_slith

Yep, it worked. Could not attack Austrians w/ ranged equipment set to range 0, but could w/ range 1.

SCUDs, Air, and Arty all doing damage on those peaceable Austrians.

Let's see how much I can soften them up ...

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In the Original game, air strikes were taking place before a declaration of war (of which I could not find a solution in Events

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ORIGINAL: Hellen_slith

Hello again, I was playing my "hotseat" game (AAR in the other forum) and when I tried to embark (onto rail movement) the attached British anti-air units, the game crashed to the "load game" menu.

First time, I embarked that first in the list, managed to move it to Austria, and it was interdicted ... so I clicked "next unit" to embark that second British anti-air. Right click, embark, little blue circle ... and the game crashed to load game menu.

Reloaded game. British anit-air unit, right click, embark ... blue circle, crashed to load game menu.

I was too scared to try it again...but anyway, looked like it might be a reproducible bug, not sure but those units seem to be a little hinky about taking trains.

Anyway, thanks again! Fun game!

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ORIGINAL: Hellen_slith

Just noticed, that BAOR unit should (I think?) actually be in the WG formation that has the other Sec. Bn

IOW, right uniform, but wrong formation. There were a couple others in BAOR like that...(WG Sec. Bn in BAOR formation)

Thanks again!

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ORIGINAL: Hellen_slith

Another observation (looking at NATO forces on their turn 2 in "Tension" mode) ....

The entire Italian army is already mobilized (same for French / Belg / Dutch / looks like all of NATO). If memory serves, in the original version, the Italians don't mobilized until like turns 5 or 6 (?) maybe earlier if Austria is invaded, and even then not all forces. Seems like the French were a bit later, and def. in the original the Danes are not ready at all at turn 2.

Anyway, not sure if that was by design (b/c of the added WP forces) or if it might be a bit too early for NATO to have all those forces ready to move on turn 2 (tension mode.) Just thought you might want to pull back NATO mobilization ... noticed in events the time frame accounted for re: REFORGER and thought, all those forces could not possibly ready to move that quick, even if they already there.

Thanks again for the great scene!

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I am making some changes to the initial mobilization time line through the Event Editor. This applies to the 1st turn of war only (GT2)"Sudden War":
- WP forces take 24 hours to assemble, thus their movement is reduced by 24/84 = -28%.
- NATO take a 20 hour delay to respond/surprise, plus 24 hrs to assemble. Movement = -56%
- I tweaked the SHOCK values, WP 123, NATO 98, which = 25% WP advantage. I did this so that more NATO units will not be frozen/unmovable on the first turn.

The net result for WP is that they still have a 25% shock advantage, but their advance/penetration reduced to 72% movement. For NATO, retarded movement to their war time deployment areas and a 2% chance that a formation will be unable to move.

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ORIGINAL: Hellen_slith

Ah, ok!! Did not know that. Nice touch on those types of details.

Enjoying it very much!

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ORIGINAL: mussey

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ORIGINAL: Hellen_slith

Ah, ok!! Did not know that. Nice touch on those types of details.

Enjoying it very much!

Keep posting any feedback since my final roll-out should be soon with some changes. I overhauled (again, and again) the naval units, the above mobilization, new unit colors (massive help from Cathar), and a bunch of other tweaking.

As you get 3-6 GT's of war, pay attention to Soviet supply levels and let me know if it needs more.

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ORIGINAL: Hellen_slith

Thanks, Larry, for some reason I suspect that it is a video issue on my end (I have a weird setup, HTML to the big TV, so I can SEE those tiny fonts, working on learning how to edit the fonts display LoL). But, it seems to occur only in TNW-Expanded. I have taken to saving the game after every formation move, and esp. after making big moves w/ trains and aircraft.

If it persists, I'll break out my real computer monitor and use a harder cable....I don't think its the game, its just on my end. Something about the map, though, I think ... that Leningrad thing over on the right side .... I think something either goes there? or maybe the map could be truncated there?

Just a wild guess. It is a great scenario! Tons of fun!!! Well, talk to you later!

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I find now that Italy can indeed move troops outside her borders into Austria.

I tried to "replicate" the event in the prior Bob Cross version, but never had any luck drawing a "no troops" card for Italy....

But I did get some that said (e.g.), "East Germany refuses to participate" or "Czechs refuse to participate". In those draws, the EG and Czechs had the little yellow band on them that indicates an event prevented them from moving.

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ORIGINAL: mussey

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I find now that Italy can indeed move troops outside her borders into Austria.

I tried to "replicate" the event in the prior Bob Cross version, but never had any luck drawing a "no troops" card for Italy....

But I did get some that said (e.g.), "East Germany refuses to participate" or "Czechs refuse to participate". In those draws, the EG and Czechs had the little yellow band on them that indicates an event prevented them from moving.

The Events as created by Bob Cross are complex to say the least. I tweaked a few, but mainly kept it as is. For Beta/playtesting purposes I changed all Warsaw Pact participation levels to 1% (from 10%) so that I could experience the full WP onslaught and to see if any future game balance decisions were needed. In your download, there should be an Excel WS (Events) that list the major Events by # that you can tweak (be careful!).

As designed, if the "No Units Across Borders" is drawn the Italians can send forces into Austria ONLY if WP invades it. From a strategic aspect if the Soviets know that Italy will not send troops across there borders (50%), then maybe they can hold off an invasion of Austria?

Excellent feedback!

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ORIGINAL: cathar1244

Mussey,

Just a side comment here about the Italy-Austria discussion. At some point, it would be more realistic to have the border fortifications represented for both Italy and Austria. Those may make vacations in Vienna less attractive to the Soviet player.

Cheers

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ORIGINAL: mussey

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ORIGINAL: Hellen_slith

Just noticed, that BAOR unit should (I think?) actually be in the WG formation that has the other Sec. Bn

IOW, right uniform, but wrong formation. There were a couple others in BAOR like that...(WG Sec. Bn in BAOR formation)

Thanks again!

This is intended. A source has it that the BAOR had attached several West German security units. Put those uniforms back on, you don't want naked German security troopers roaming the backside of the BAOR.