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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/25/2019 9:45:26 AM   
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One day later and the situation continues to improve for NATO. A lot of the WP units are in the red. There are still a lot of units, but they are definitely hurting. In about half of their attacks on the 27th, the WP advanced.

In the air war, the WP air force is doing less and less. As the WP moved on the 27th, my interdiction attacks kept happening. These efforts weaken the actual units and effect supply.

The WP that had been fighting in Berlin are making their way to the front. Most of them are SE of Hannover.

Gaps remain significant in the WP line. The units in the red highlighted area are mostly unsupplied and in the red. To their East are some bridging and AH units – nothing that could stop a powerful attack.

In the South, the push on Munich has been stopped and most of the Czech units in it are also unsupplied.

I’m itching to launch a counter punch, but will give it another day. Time is on my side and I would like to see some more of the WP follow-on units engaged in the battle before I launch III Corps.

So, the main focus is on tweaking my defence line, with some attacks to keep the WP off balance.

In the air war, it seems like I have a big advantage in AS, so I will move some of those units to Int missions. I will also use my rockets to target airfields again.




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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/25/2019 8:17:20 PM   
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Before I start moving forces around for NATO moves, I thought it would be a good time to step back and look at the bigger picture and decide what I want to achieve next.




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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/25/2019 8:18:08 PM   
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Here is a look at my assessment of the current situation




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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/26/2019 8:24:17 AM   
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Onwards to Moscow for NATO then, As i recall we ( BR I Corps ) hoped to be able to hold the WP at the weser river and hope that there supplies ran out intel seemed to suggest they had 2/3 weeks then would have to halt.

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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/26/2019 1:01:07 PM   
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Good day Ian,

The Weser is certainly a good obstacle to defend along. I'm planning to hit back earlier...

Not sure about getting to Moscow, but I do want to recapture all of Berlin before peace comes!

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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/26/2019 1:01:57 PM   
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The planners have come up with some options for the commander. Here is the first one.




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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/26/2019 1:02:21 PM   
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Here is the second one




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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/26/2019 1:02:57 PM   
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Finally, here is the third one. Now it will be up to the commander to decide.




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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/26/2019 7:22:31 PM   
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Having some fun, I went to the history books (Okay wikipedia) to find an Operation name to use for this upcoming battle. I decided on one from WWII that was a Canadian led Operation




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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/26/2019 7:23:12 PM   
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Operation Veritable - he is the commander's decision




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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/26/2019 7:23:39 PM   
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The coordinating instructions




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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/26/2019 8:04:59 PM   
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I see you making the French 3rd Corps the theater reserve and I concur
but I'm wondering now if you're going to move it more toward the center
of gravity of the action. To be able to reach anywhere in the minimum
time needed to get there and exert a force. There's so many units between
the French and the north they couldn't possibly get there in time to make
a difference. I'm just wondering.

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there's two things that everyone needs to know: (1) 90% of the human race lives near the coast. (2) human beings can't breathe under water.

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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/26/2019 8:35:29 PM   
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Larry,

I moved it a little to the North, but not too much. Once 1 UK Corps launches, I will move the French farther North. Good point and thanks for the comment...

Have a good day,

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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/26/2019 9:32:57 PM   
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My moves for the day are done. I'm intrigued with how the WP is going to move. Hopefully, they do not do something that makes me call off or postpone Veritable.




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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/27/2019 3:22:14 PM   
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Here is the situation on the morning of the 29th. Things are looking up. The news from the Atlantic is very good!! Supply has not been an issue, but more supply is always a good thing!!!




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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/27/2019 3:36:40 PM   
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A look at the battle near Kiel.




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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/27/2019 5:47:31 PM   
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With victory in the Battle for the Atlantic, a carrier group has arrived in the Channel.




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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/27/2019 5:48:22 PM   
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1 UK Corps is getting bigger and ready to attack in the morning.




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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/27/2019 7:01:26 PM   
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Can you use any of the ships in that carrier group to support the troops on the ground?

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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/27/2019 7:15:51 PM   
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Larry,

Yes, for sure!! They are going to hopefully really help the troops in Jutland!

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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/27/2019 7:23:40 PM   
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III Corps is being unleashed. I hope this works




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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/27/2019 7:35:21 PM   
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I'm going to have some fun in the South - to see if I can draw the WP forward where I can get them better...




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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/28/2019 9:27:42 AM   
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Here is a picture just before my last round of attacks. Not much changed after the last three attacks.




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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/28/2019 7:43:11 PM   
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Here is the view as the sun rises on June 30th. Should be an interesting day...




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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/28/2019 7:59:37 PM   
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The WP has a lot of Regiments along the Weser River in this sector, with no obvious location to hit initially. A lot of the units are really in the red, in fact the only stack that is mainly in yellow is the one topped with the 3-2 TR North of Bremen.

One option is to attack cross the front and take advantage of any gaps that open up.

A second option is to focus on one or two stacks and hit them hard and see where things stand after these attacks – time is on my side after all.

I’m going to go with the first option. I’m also going to use airborne and airmobile units to start causing retreat issues and maybe even more supply issues for the WP. These units will land just South of Hamburg and NE of Bremen.

Time is on my side, but I need to get supply hooked up to the units in Jutland.




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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/28/2019 8:09:46 PM   
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A look at the centre, where III Corps is about to breakout, I hope.




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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/29/2019 1:26:21 AM   
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Here is a look as the sun comes up on Canada Day.




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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/30/2019 12:49:22 AM   
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The 30th was a day of intense back and forth fighting around Bremen. The WP pushed back everywhere and were successful to the SE of Bremen.

I was happy with the overall results. I also learned that air mobile units will not move across enemy units, which was a bit of a surprise. It also makes sense.

As the sun comes up, the WP units to the red bubble are all unsupplied. I was surprised that they did not attack the paratroopers...

Today, the Brits and Canadians are going to push in a NE direction. The West Germans are going to attack more towards the East.

Most of the Dutch will rest for the day – they have certainly earned it.

I want to bring in some more paratroopers, likely just South of Hamburg.

While studying the battlefield, I noticed that I have sea transport. I think I can move a couple of brigades. I’m going to move a Dutch and a Danish brigade into Kiel. This should cause some issues for the WP units NW of Kiel.




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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/30/2019 12:58:44 AM   
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As I mention on the diagram below, I think it would have been a better idea if 1 UK Corps had followed behind III Corps. It would have given me more options to expand the breakout. That being said, it would not have helped the forces in Jutland at all.




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RE: Red Thunder II 1988 - NATO - 1/30/2019 1:05:25 AM   
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A look at the battle in the South of West Germany




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