From: Iowan in MD/DC
Hey, Moose, I wish you wouldn't categorize people into wings. No doubt the good people of the Forum have strong political and social opinions, but most of us veer away from expressing opinions or otherwise stepping over boundaries. There are a few who have trouble exercising restraint, but by-in-large its a bunch of good eggs.
Gee, CR. I was willing to let this go, but since you called me out by name . . .
"1. You're delusional if you think it stops there. All our games to one degree or another "focus on killing".
2. Will Slitherine fight back and remove all games in protest or roll over like a female dog in heat for Apple?
3. Corporate America (Apple is an example) has an insatiable desire to control all thought and content.
4. The Gods of political correctness can not be satiated or placated."
"What a joke. Give these technofascist SOBs an inch and they can take a mile. Their social engineering has had mind-boggling effects on society and the new generation. That's part of how they get away with alarming acts of censorship like this.
Same for the 'PC' crowd. Nothing satisfies them"
"The mega-giant left-wing fundamentalists of the technological world"
"There must be something unique about the Taliban. What can that be?
My guess is that Apple is getting heat (and fear) from a certain religious persuasion. "
(A "persuasion"? Really? A major world religion with over a billion adherents is not a "persuasion.")
And oh, yeah. From the same post "It may be best if we close this thread." After a successful drive-by hit, change the gun laws.
So I call 'em like I see 'em.
Moderation of the forum has largely been honored in the breach of late, and this type of troll thread has grown more common, especially by the OP. Look at his recent thread list and one finds the B-1 bomber, the USS Zumwalt, the Norwegian frigate disaster, and several others all calculated to get responses such as those I listed above.
To the "controversy" itself, Slitherine is spinning like a top. The issue is not "historical wargames" at all; Afghanistan isn't history. It's current events. I'm sure the seven fatherless children of Major Brent Taylor, killed last month in Afghanistan, would be heartened to know he died so there might be grist for a game. Perhaps Slitherine could send each of them a free copy.
As for Apple, it is easy to see that they are acting in accordance with their published standards for App Store content. I was on my back, in bed, in the dark on my phone, without my glasses on, so it took me three whole minutes to find their app developer standards on the subject:
"1.1 Objectionable Content
Apps should not include content that is offensive, insensitive, upsetting, intended to disgust, or in exceptionally poor taste. Examples of such content include:
1.1.1 Defamatory, discriminatory, or mean-spirited content, including references or commentary about religion, race, sexual orientation, gender, national/ethnic origin, or other targeted groups, particularly if the app is likely to humiliate, intimidate, or place a targeted individual or group in harm’s way. Professional political satirists and humorists are generally exempt from this requirement.
1.1.2 Realistic portrayals of people or animals being killed, maimed, tortured, or abused, or content that encourages violence. “Enemies” within the context of a game cannot solely target a specific race, culture, real government, corporation, or any other real entity."
But hey, why inject facts into a good troll?
I just wanted to weigh in and say that I also found comments, such as those quoted, to be very, very borderline for our forum. It's the prime reason I've been responding to such trolling. Honestly, were I the moderator, I'd have removed them to preemptively eliminate a flamewar (our mod does a just fine job, it's largely a matter of judgement and each mod's lines on acceptable conduct vary).
I am getting sick of feeling like I need to push back on what basically amounts to fact-free or fact-twisting propaganda in a forum for a game. These folks need to take these posts back to Facebook for the "pleasure" of their relatives, or head on over to reddit.com/r/TheDonald if they're really that inclined to spew forth.