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Nice WITP theater ship info - 8/18/2018 2:33:40 PM   
m10bob


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Hello..I use youtube quite a bit for historical clips and recently I noticed a user named Navyreviewer has been posting info on many of the ships in our great game.
His clips usually show a single pic of each class and he reads a description of each ship of that class...
Dunno what his sources are but they match mine.

To find his collection...I just typed something like BALTIMORE CLASS...or KONGO CLASS into the youtube browser and it will bring up his clips.
Then, put your cursor on his name...add him as a favorite and scroll his entire collection.
I learned why some of the early U.S. Heavy Cruisers were such rotten ships, leading to some of their losses at Savo Island.
So far he has posted CV's down to DD's and at least some of the subs...(that I know of)..
I use an app called MP3 Rocket to download them and they range from roughly 8 minutes to 22 minutes per clip, depending on the size of the class.




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RE: Nice WITP theater ship info - 8/18/2018 2:43:18 PM   
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They store ammo in those hanging pockets, behind thin wall? First hit will detonate everything, and kill whole crew.

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RE: Nice WITP theater ship info - 8/18/2018 3:49:19 PM   
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Well it needs to work fast.

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RE: Nice WITP theater ship info - 8/18/2018 3:58:48 PM   
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They store ammo in those hanging pockets, behind thin wall? First hit will detonate everything, and kill whole crew.


The turrets inside all tanks looked the same, and were equally dangerous.
War is hell.

In the pic, the guy closest to the camera with his back to us is the gun chief. That was my dad-in-laws' job in the Coast Guard when aboard the USS Calloway APA 19..Al told me that his left hand he always had an iron bar which was used to "encourage" the gun crews..(This was an encouraged and SOP practice.)
All of his gun crew were black...and none of them ever left their post.
In a brief break during an aerial assault around Okinawa or Iwo Jima...Al went below decks to fetch food for his crew and a Japanese plane came in low and killed the entire crew with a direct kamikaze hit on his gun tub.

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RE: Nice WITP theater ship info - 8/18/2018 5:25:38 PM   
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Shouldn't the guy with the steel bar be sitting down working the peddles and aiming the guns? What is he doing - getting ready to change barrels on the gun?

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RE: Nice WITP theater ship info - 8/18/2018 9:37:17 PM   
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I cant see anyone holding a steel bar, someone is holding onto a piece of "frame", maybe there to stop them falling off the mount.

As its a quad 40mm, maybe there are 2 sets of pedals and the pointer and trainer take it in turns to "drive" the mount.

The gun captain is the guy in the middle with the headphones.

USS Callaway was APA 35 after originally being numbered AP 80





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RE: Nice WITP theater ship info - 8/20/2018 2:16:22 AM   
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They store ammo in those hanging pockets, behind thin wall? First hit will detonate everything, and kill whole crew.


I wouldn't think so, actually. It depends on what hits there, and what it does to the rounds.

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RE: Nice WITP theater ship info - 8/20/2018 11:29:38 AM   
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As I understand it damaged rounds tend to burn fiercely not explode.

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RE: Nice WITP theater ship info - 8/20/2018 4:09:06 PM   
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Would they remain on station in case of surface combat? asking about the scenario of no aircraft spotted

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RE: Nice WITP theater ship info - 8/20/2018 4:36:19 PM   
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This photo confuses me too. I had been led to understand those 40 mm mounts two trainers who worked together: one controlled azimuth while the other controlled elevation. And that the trigger is at least one of the foot pedals. Why is one trainer standing up while a round seemingly has just left one of the four barrels and that barrel's mate has fired just prior (notice it has recoiled)? Is this a picture of some training? Is it a staged picture?

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RE: Nice WITP theater ship info - 8/20/2018 5:50:22 PM   
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Such a famous picture, arguably the most famous depicting the naval 40 mm and naval AA in general ;Well witpqs I think the gun mount is remote centrally controlled; the gun chiefs-directors shown in the picture are there for reserve in case of malfunctioning, and to supervise the loading crew as well

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RE: Nice WITP theater ship info - 8/20/2018 6:02:00 PM   
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Is this a picture of some training? Is it a staged picture?


I was kinda wondering the same thing, but that's a lot of empty shell casings down in front for training. No?

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RE: Nice WITP theater ship info - 8/20/2018 6:14:09 PM   
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"Task Force 58 raid on Japan. 40mm guns firing aboard USS HORNET on 16 February 1945, as the carrier’s planes were raiding Tokyo. Note expended shells and ready-service ammunition at right. February 1945. Photo by Lt. Comdr. Charles Kerlee. (Navy) – Note the shells on ground."


"Before turning to photography, Charles Kerlee worked in the film industry. By the time Edward Steichen recruited him to be one of the official war photographers for the United States Navy, Kerlee was one of the best-known and most successful commercial photographers in the United States. His assignment during WWII was to document the USS Yorktown and the men on board. Not only capturing moments in the air, Kerlee also photographed everyday moments, including those rare moments of downtime."



"Gunnery practice with 40-mm Bofors MK 12 anti-aircraft guns aboard Hornet while her aircraft raided Japan, 16 February 1945."


They look too relaxed to be under actual attack.

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RE: Nice WITP theater ship info - 8/20/2018 6:31:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JeffroK

I cant see anyone holding a steel bar, someone is holding onto a piece of "frame", maybe there to stop them falling off the mount.

As its a quad 40mm, maybe there are 2 sets of pedals and the pointer and trainer take it in turns to "drive" the mount.

The gun captain is the guy in the middle with the headphones.

USS Callaway was APA 35 after originally being numbered AP 80





Jeff...You are correct regarding the number of Al's ship.

I never said Al was in this pic. I was relaying personal info he had been kind enough to impart on me.
When vets of that war ever told me their stories, I was eager to listen.

Most combat vets I ever knew would never discuss such matters...except with fellow combat veterans.
Once I joined that "private club"...I never took those moments for granted.
Perhaps I should have taken notes.

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RE: Nice WITP theater ship info - 8/20/2018 6:52:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn
They look too relaxed to be under actual attack.

Elevation of 5" gun tubes is another giveaway

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RE: Nice WITP theater ship info - 8/21/2018 5:12:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: adarbrauner

Such a famous picture, arguably the most famous depicting the naval 40 mm and naval AA in general ;Well witpqs I think the gun mount is remote centrally controlled; the gun chiefs-directors shown in the picture are there for reserve in case of malfunctioning, and to supervise the loading crew as well

Then why is the right pair of guns on the mount not firing?

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RE: Nice WITP theater ship info - 8/21/2018 5:13:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

"Task Force 58 raid on Japan. 40mm guns firing aboard USS HORNET on 16 February 1945, as the carrier’s planes were raiding Tokyo. Note expended shells and ready-service ammunition at right. February 1945. Photo by Lt. Comdr. Charles Kerlee. (Navy) – Note the shells on ground."


"Before turning to photography, Charles Kerlee worked in the film industry. By the time Edward Steichen recruited him to be one of the official war photographers for the United States Navy, Kerlee was one of the best-known and most successful commercial photographers in the United States. His assignment during WWII was to document the USS Yorktown and the men on board. Not only capturing moments in the air, Kerlee also photographed everyday moments, including those rare moments of downtime."



"Gunnery practice with 40-mm Bofors MK 12 anti-aircraft guns aboard Hornet while her aircraft raided Japan, 16 February 1945."


They look too relaxed to be under actual attack.

Thank you! That makes more sense.

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