From: Jacksonville, FL, USA
I've played around quite a bit with your beloved S-400 system. (I said that because I know that you include it a lot in your scenarios. <lol>)
Dang those pesky Russians (and Moose & Squirrel ) for deploying/selling S-400 systems in areas I like to design scenarios in! You're correct I do use it a lot, but only because they're out there. The United States just sanctioned the PRC because of an arms deal that included several S-400 Battalions. When I create a scenario I try my best to research and place the equipment actually deployed to the Hot Spot (sometimes I get it wrong, but heck the pay is the same )! Therefore, when I create one in Antarctica, and if the Russian's haven't deployed one there yet, I won't include one for the defense of the Penguins
The system is good, but in some areas of operation, it's not the best. Firing at long rang over different elevations allows the target a/c to dive and hide behind the mountains, etc., thus breaking the lock and losing the missile.
If anyone thinks that they can simply fire away with it and get a kill they are sadly mistaken. It works great over water, but with mountainous terrain, the distance really needs to be adjusted.
Agreed, but isn't that the very reason why the Russians deployed it along the Med coast in Syria? Because it works well over the water (as apparently the S-200 Divinia does as well ). You might note they deployed some BUKs in the southern mountains of the Syrian coastal mountain chain. BTW, its not always about getting a kill, thats the Aerial Denial aspect of the weapon system, if just the threat causes you to stand off it provides a mission kill. I know its fun to blow stuff up in Command but...
With that in mind, it would be nice to either restrict the firing arc (rather than have it be a full 360 degrees, or be able to restrict the shooting distance in the various arcs.
I would use that, but right now I can't...
To return to our example of the SAM on the coast, I would allow it to shoot at any distance out over the water (like The Med), but would severely reduce its range shooting toward the north/south/east (over the mountains) because the launcher will go dry with very few kills.
Agreed, so if in my scenario designs if the main threat axis to my high value targets is coming from the water and I want those attackers to stand off, well then my range for the Growlers is going to be maxed out and my layered SAM/ADA defenses (Pantsirs, Tunguska, and BUK) are going to get most leakers. After all some really, really, really, wicked smart people have designed these systems and they designed them to be layered with each component playing its roll. Now yes you can soak off the ADA system's resources but isn't that also a military tactic?
One other point, if the S-400 is so limited why is Israel (rightly) so opposed to one being given/sold to Syria for the Damascus area? I think we both know why!
< Message edited by BeirutDude -- 10/19/2018 9:22:46 AM >
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