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RE: PAW 1941-45 larryfulkerson (Axis) vs warspite1 (All... - 6/16/2018 4:47:21 AM   
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Now the problems really start. With no control over my precious aircraft, and a carrier fleet to protect, MAG 21 decides to fly to New Caledonia (where land based air will be massive) to attack a carrier group with just a few aircraft. Good choice....and the whittling down process is now underway.




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RE: PAW 1941-45 larryfulkerson (Axis) vs warspite1 (All... - 6/16/2018 5:07:47 AM   
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What happens next is not so much about the lack of control of aircraft (but contributes - MAG 21 is effectively out of the game by combat 4....), but is also about the lack of realism.

Next up Task Force 4 orders an attack on the Japanese bombardment force at Vanua Levu. As said before I could have put the TF4 bombers on 'Rest' but then that would have been dumb if attacked by surface ships.....

But that is not the issue here....


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RE: PAW 1941-45 larryfulkerson (Axis) vs warspite1 (All... - 6/16/2018 5:34:40 AM   
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The whittling away of Task Force 4's ability to defend itself continues. Remember all 4 attacks are initiated by the Allies - or rather by the program on behalf of the Allied player.....and there is nothing the Allied player can do about it.




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RE: PAW 1941-45 larryfulkerson (Axis) vs warspite1 (All... - 6/16/2018 5:57:51 AM   
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Next (Combat 9) comes a bombardment by 2 battleships and a heavy cruiser against the airfield at Vanua Levu. MAG 21 and REC 10 have 11 Dauntless, 16 Wildcats and 11 Kingfishers. The bombardment reduces the Wildcats by 3 and the Dauntless by a further 2. The aircraft don't seemingly attack the ships in defence....

And so we come to the destruction of Task Force 4.

For the attack Larry was able to bring in 6 aircraft carriers - 4 of which are fleet carriers of the 1st Air Fleet. I don't have any major issue with the result given the disparity of forces. But I do not understand why, throughout the combats mentioned, the Japanese always had aircraft they could bring to every battle, but the 18th Fighter Group on Vanua Levu (which was right next door to three of the battles and well within range of the carrier battle to come) never flew once. In fact, come to think of it, when the Japanese bombarded the airfield in Combat 9, why weren't the fighters targeted? Is this a bug?

The 54th Fighter Group on Samoa was well within range of this battle, didn't fly. So a fair summary would be, while out of my control aircraft I didn't want to fly - flew stupid missions, while the time I wanted aircraft to fly, they didn't. Sorry, this is the operational art of war. Having some control of operations is kind of implied in the title.... this just seems too random.




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RE: PAW 1941-45 larryfulkerson (Axis) vs warspite1 (All... - 6/16/2018 8:56:03 AM   
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So the actual combats in the PI and Pacific were as follows.




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RE: PAW 1941-45 larryfulkerson (Axis) vs warspite1 (All... - 6/16/2018 10:48:11 PM   
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Incredible. The Japanese parachute battalion that was attacked twice and reduced to a half dozen squads, has retreated three times and is out of supply is not applicable for an RBC.... of course.... Then when sizing up an attack with the entire Indian infantry division the predicted result is 'impossible to predict'. Erm.... okay.

Three newly arrived destroyer divisions appear in Calcutta (for some reason) and when I try and move them they are immediately attacked by Japanese land-based bombers - Nell and Betty. From where these originate I've no idea but the closest is likely to be Thailand or Sumatra. Fortunately the destroyers are undamaged and the Japanese lose three bombers.

USS New Mexico is almost a wreck and does not have the movement points to get to Pearl or the West Coast. I decide to get her away as far as she can make it - and to travel past Samoa in doing so. While just off Samoa the remains of TF4 are attacke by 38 bombers escorted by 60 fighters (half of which are Claudes). This time the Airacobra unit does fly and, at a cost of 1 fighter, the Japanese lose 5 bombers and 3 fighters.

Then when the fleet is to the east of Samoa (but still well within fighter range) it is found again in what must be hundreds of miles from any enemy aircraft. The US fighters don't fly (really?) and at a cost of just 4 Japanese bombers, two destroyers are sunk as is the New Mexico.

So the upshot of all that is that there really isn't much left for me to move. I have no idea if Larry can see my fleet on the West Coast. I have to hope not but given what I've seen so far I think that can't be taken for granted. But I have no fighters there anyway so I think its not a very safe place to be. With three aircraft carriers and two battleships sunk and the Japanese totally in control of the Western Pacific and Indian Oceans there is little point in just hiding away. I send what is left of the Pacific Fleet to Hawaii where, in theory at least, I have some aircraft to protect them. On the way there, one fleet is intercepted between Pearl and the US west coast. 4 bombers are lost for only light damage to a destroyer.

Despite what the predicted result is telling me I decide to attack what is after all just the remnants of an out of supply, beaten up, severely depleted paratroop battalion. I do this with an entire Indian division and two Chinese divisions. But sadly its getting late and I press the wrong button and end the turn instead! Whoops. Probably for the best - I suspect the Allies would have been wiped out....

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RE: PAW 1941-45 larryfulkerson (Axis) vs warspite1 (All... - 6/23/2018 3:21:36 AM   
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So I have to make a decision re the playback. In this scenario watching the playback takes so much time and once I start I either continue to the end in that session or I end it early if I run out of time. That is so frustrating.

If I miss the replay I have to accept I am going to miss some key moves, however because using the playback is just impractical from a time point of view that is going to have to be the way forward.

China

Not sure why but it was a very quiet time in China. Even a Japanese air strike failed to score any hits. But regardless of the reason, that is welcome relief to the Chinese.




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RE: PAW 1941-45 larryfulkerson (Axis) vs warspite1 (All... - 6/23/2018 4:43:50 AM   
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NEI

One attack in Sumatra this time around, and the Malay brigade battalion continue to get whittled down.




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RE: PAW 1941-45 larryfulkerson (Axis) vs warspite1 (All... - 6/23/2018 4:50:16 AM   
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Australia


Not much to report here either. The Japanese naval ships appear to be able to travel around wherever they please. The RAAF lost 3 aircraft chasing after some destroyers and eventually, after three attacks, they managed to dish out light damage to one of them.....

Combat 17 was an airfield attack on Darwin that at least cost the Japanese more than it did the Allies. But thanks to the legendary AA of the IJN the RAAF still lost more aircraft that turn......




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RE: PAW 1941-45 larryfulkerson (Axis) vs warspite1 (All... - 6/23/2018 5:05:04 AM   
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India


Again, not too much to say here. The turn opened with the Allies attacking and once again Japanese light forces are able to swan around the Indian Ocean without a care. The RAF lost half a dozen aircraft but couldn't hit the Japanese light cruiser that was on a pleasure cruise off southeastern India for toffee.

The Eastern Fleet's position is obviously known and not all ships are able to get into Karachi because of the stacking limit. A carrier borne attack whittles the fleet down further (Combat 34) and the CAP was not able to save the ships.

There were air attacks in Burma, on Singapore and more reduction of forces in Malaya.

The one bright spot was an air attack by my Beauforts that sunk a Japanese transport in the Gulf of Thailand (Combat 1). There were a goodly number of engineers aboard too.




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RE: PAW 1941-45 larryfulkerson (Axis) vs warspite1 (All... - 6/23/2018 5:08:13 AM   
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Pacific and PI


The forces in the PI hold another turn - albeit at huge cost.

Samoa falls to the Japanese steamroller and Johnston Island's airfield is attacked successfully.

I just have to sit back and watch island after island being taken. I've seen what happens when I put aircraft on those islands to defend them so there's not a lot of point in doing anything.




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RE: PAW 1941-45 larryfulkerson (Axis) vs warspite1 (All... - 6/23/2018 5:49:07 AM   
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Not much to report for the Allies as they don't have that many units to utilise.

I take the following action:

1. As decided last turn I dig-in with the Chinese Communists.
2. I do pretty much the same with the Nationalists - although with some withdrawal in the south.
3. I move the excess units of the Eastern Fleet to Arabia but then find I have no aircraft to provide CAP. On the basis that it doesn't seem to do much good I don't consider that to be a problem. I just have to accept that the Japanese can send scouting ships freely all over the Indian/Pacific Oceans so there is no possibility of escape.
4. On Mindanao I have some Guerillas that fan out in all directions to try and tax the Japanese forces there.
5. I attack the two Japanese paratroop units - I force one off the Ledo Road and destroy the one that originally landed in Myithynia.

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RE: PAW 1941-45 larryfulkerson (Axis) vs warspite1 (All... - 6/24/2018 6:28:00 AM   
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I'm not sure what is frustrating me more at the moment, the exaggerated ahistorical Japanese capabilities or the game mechanics. Almost every time I click on a battle the battle area is masked by the giant box that almost fills the screen.... I have to click it clear and hope (though not always successful) that the game map doesn't then move to the other side of the Pacific. I then have to get the co-ordinates, make the map of sufficient size that I can put that map section in the corner of the screen and then drill down on the battle detail. Frustrating. I don't remember the desert game being like this....

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RE: PAW 1941-45 larryfulkerson (Axis) vs warspite1 (All... - 6/24/2018 6:32:59 AM   
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Anyways, back to the game itself. A lesser turn in terms of number of attacks I'm pleased to say, but painful nonetheless - and there could have been more losses during RBC but as I no longer watch the playback I can't be sure (except the PI where there was definitely one).

China

One attack and a cut-off Chinese Communist unit is destroyed for no loss. I can only assume that there are supply considerations in play here. If that is the case then that would be welcome because until now the Japanese have simply steam-rollered the hapless Chinese.




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RE: PAW 1941-45 larryfulkerson (Axis) vs warspite1 (All... - 6/24/2018 6:45:12 AM   
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More frustration with the Allied air units. In Combat 3 the computer decides to send the dwindling air assets to attack a Japanese fleet containing two carriers of the 5th Carrier Division. Sensible. The results are unsurprising; the Allies lose 27 precious bombers on a ridiculous waste of time suicide mission.

The Japanese - utilising 9 unescorted destroyers - bombard the remaining air units on Bali (Combat 13). The RAF units that attacked the carriers don't fly on this mission - and the defenders on Bali don't fly either.

Similarly at Tarakan (Combat 15) 1 light cruiser escorts 21 destroyers/destroyer escorts and bombards the airfield. The Allied aircraft don't appear vaguely interested in such a juicy target.




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Australia

Meanwhile in Australia there are two airfield attacks. The Japanese seem to conduct most(?) of their airfield strikes using fighters only. The results of the two attacks - on Darwin and Cairns - was 17 vs 7 aircraft destroyed in the Allies favour.




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India/Burma/Malaya

The computer chooses a better (if slightly bizarre in terms of location) choice of target for its first attack. A few Japanese army units are lost in an air attack off the French Indo-Chinese coast (Combat 2).

Sadly for Combat 4 in the Indian Ocean, south of the sub-continent, we are back to a rag tag bunch of aircraft attacking a Japanese fleet containing the 1st Carrier Division....

The Japanese are content to largely bombard at present - either airfields or troops using aircraft or ships. There was just one land combat (Combat 27) southeast of Port Dickson that saw the remnants from Malay Brigade retreat.

Note that in Burma Japanese engineers are hard at work building a bridge over the Sittang.




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RE: PAW 1941-45 larryfulkerson (Axis) vs warspite1 (All... - 6/24/2018 7:41:22 AM   
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PI and the Pacific


The defenders on Luzon are now down to one hex and as can be seen (Combat 28) those defenders have been pulverised....

The remaining PI attacks are bombardments/land attacks against the guerilla units on Mindanao.

Combats 5,6 and 7 are another perfect example of whittling away of precious forces for no purpose. The target is a CL escorting a few destroyers and so there should at least be some damage to the destroyers - but sadly not, just a load of shot down aircraft. The Japanese fighters (from where I don't know) react for Combat 7 and the Allies come of slightly better. However they are worse off overall and quite how the Allies get more destroyed is something of a mystery.

The Japanese attack the airfield at Vanua Levu again (Combat 14) using land based aircraft (probably from New Caledonia) and ships. It is pleasing to see the Allies win an aerial battle.




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The Royal Navy get some reinforcements which appear off Bombay. With the IJN freely moving around the Indian Ocean these units need to be moved - but Karachi is full.

The Formidable air group contains fighters and Swordfish so I'm not sure if this should be on air superiority or sea interdiction?? I'll put them on air superiority and see what happens.

I now have:

Eastern Fleet (Karachi) (US 49th Fighter Group with 48 Warhawks on air superiority providing protection for the fleet).

CV: Formidable (25 Fulmar, 25 Swordfish), Hermes (12 Fulmars, 12 Swordfish, 8 Albacore)
BB: Revenge
CA: Cornwall
CL: Durban, Dauntless
DD: Dest Squadron 3 - 3 destroyers

With Karachi full, the remaining ships I head south with, hugging the western map edge and hoping they are not detected.....

CL: Emerald, Ceres, Dragon, Caledon
DD: Dest Squadron 1, 2 and 4 - 6 destroyers

I've realised I have no land units in Karachi and given the Japanese ability to move anywhere I think that is unwise. I remove the Formidable and Hermes air groups and send them to airfields. I then rail in the New Zealand brigade and artillery from Delhi.




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At Pearl Yorktown and Hornet get their bomber group back. The Enterprise Fighter Group also returns, but with no carrier to fly from, it is sent to Hawaii to strengthen the US defences.

For some reason the Lexington Bomber Group does not want to land on Lexington. Having tried all manner of things, I think I've found out why. If I remove the Fighter Group the Bomber Group will land. So it looks like the loss of one carrier means that I can either have fighters or bombers on the remaining carrier - but not a sensible mix of the two.... okay...

After all that mucking about I don't have the movement left to get the task force back to Hawaii so I send the fighters to Hawaii and the fleet to San Francisco.



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Allied Air Forces

I decide to look a little more closely at these. I want to know if there is anything I can do about that engineer on the Sittang.

Before I do I look to see if I have any units to spare. The answer is of course no but....

The lead elements of the 17th Indian Division is sent from Para-bashing in China to Toungoo, Burma thus releasing the units there head south to try and block the engineer building a bridge over this formidable obstacle.

The 23rd Indian Division - released from a similar role - are needed back in Calcutta. The Chinese will have to deal with the beaten up, out of supply para.... I send the Indians to Ledo where they will have rail access next turn. I can think about what to do with these then.

I have two US bomber groups arrived in Delhi and I send these to Burma. I place all bombers (bar one) on interdiction and set range such that they should attack the Japanese between the Sittang and Salween rivers.





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Sumatra
The Malay unit south of Medan evaporates trying to move, but the Aussie battalion gamely takes two ports and tries to cut the north-south road.

Borneo
I send the air units on Bali to Balikpapan.

Java
The remnants of the 2nd KNIL Regt. moves inland but runs into a Japanese engineer.

The Philippines

I continue to move the Guerilla units on Mindanao in as many directions as possible. The port of Tran is liberated!


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New Zealand

A port on the North Island has been taken and seemingly with no ground units required, two Japanese air units have set up camp. I shall say no more on this.....

EDIT: Well I will say more on this because it appears these units are invulnerable to attack...see below....




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That just leaves China. Which is too boring for words. No idea what to do, no supply, unstoppable Japanese that threaten to surround about 20 units, no reserves, paras that land anywhere.... just totally clueless as to what to do. Ho hum.....

I refuse to move with the Communists as there is literally nowhere to go. Intrigued by the fact that two Japanese units are deployed actually in the Gobi Desert..... I would hope they are out of supply but.....

With the Nationalists I sort of move around a bit and dig-in a bit and sort of... well... just hope and pray really.


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This is total cobblers. The New Zealand infantry battalion can't eject two air units - WITH NO LAND UNITS IN SUPPORT - but has bombarded the hex. Why has an infantry battalion bombarded a hex???? I mean what the hell is that all about????

So I try an airfield attack instead see if that does any good. Well I destroy a few aircraft but that's it. This has to be a bug - it can't be a game mechanic that was meant????

And then the turn ends

I've alerted Larry to the issue to see what he thinks.

At least I now know where Bomber Harris went wrong. He tried to obliterate Berlin using bombs. All he needed to do was sneakily land a few Lancaster squadrons at Templehof and, bingo, War Won!

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This is total cobblers. The New Zealand infantry battalion can't eject two air units - WITH NO LAND UNITS IN SUPPORT - but has bombarded the hex. Why has an infantry battalion bombarded a hex???? I mean what the hell is that all about????

So I try an airfield attack instead see if that does any good. Well I destroy a few aircraft but that's it. This has to be a bug - it can't be a game mechanic that was meant????

And then the turn ends

I've alerted Larry to the issue to see what he thinks.

At least I now know where Bomber Harris went wrong. He tried to obliterate Berlin using bombs. All he needed to do was sneakily land a few Lancaster squadrons at Templehof and, bingo, War Won!

I always knew there was something wacky about Kiwis.

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Larry has checked out the issue and sent me a copy of a response received from the scenario designer. I've PM'd Larry to thank him.

Hi Larry

Thanks for the response. I found this piece incredible:

Dual icon units will also act like artillery units in that they will not take te target hex during the combat phase. They would need to take the hex on a subsequent phase. It is recommended non dual icon units be mixed in to take the hex during the combat phase.

The scenario designer has decided to give the Allied player few units. It is a struggle in places like Australia, the NEI and New Zealand to find any units. To suggest that the Allied player simply 'mix in' other units rather misses the point. But of course none of the above addresses the real issue; that the Japanese can land in the middle of New Zealand thousands of miles from any supply base - and, without ground troops (or frankly even with) - set up an air force base. So how did they even get control of the airfield and port? where do these aircraft get their fuel? their spare parts? how do they defend against even a local militia attack or sabotage? The whole thing is woefully unrealistic. Ho hum.

End of the day it is what it is and we just have to play with what we have in front of us.

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RE: PAW 1941-45 larryfulkerson (Axis) vs warspite1 (All... - 6/25/2018 4:01:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1

Larry has checked out the issue and sent me a copy of a response received from the scenario designer. I've PM'd Larry to thank him.

Hi Larry

Thanks for the response. I found this piece incredible:

Dual icon units will also act like artillery units in that they will not take te target hex during the combat phase. They would need to take the hex on a subsequent phase. It is recommended non dual icon units be mixed in to take the hex during the combat phase.

The scenario designer has decided to give the Allied player few units. It is a struggle in places like Australia, the NEI and New Zealand to find any units. To suggest that the Allied player simply 'mix in' other units rather misses the point. But of course none of the above addresses the real issue; that the Japanese can land in the middle of New Zealand thousands of miles from any supply base - and, without ground troops (or frankly even with) - set up an air force base. So how did they even get control of the airfield and port? where do these aircraft get their fuel? their spare parts? how do they defend against even a local militia attack or sabotage? The whole thing is woefully unrealistic. Ho hum.

End of the day it is what it is and we just have to play with what we have in front of us.

Can you get a VAR?

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RE: PAW 1941-45 larryfulkerson (Axis) vs warspite1 (All... - 6/25/2018 4:41:17 PM   
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Turn 10
8th February 1942


21 combats this turn. Lets see the detail.

The first two combats were Allied attacks against a CL/DD task force in the Pacific. 4 Kingfishers are destroyed for no benefit.

There were 3 airfield attacks - one in Australia, one in China and one at Singapore. The results were as follows:

Australia - 7 PBY (2 destroyed) in return for 5 fighters (1 destroyed)
Singapore - 2 fighters (1 destroyed) and 5 bombers (2 destroyed) in return for 5 fighters (3 destroyed)
China - 44 fighters (16 destroyed) but at least this time the Japanese were hurt 54 fighters (18 destroyed) and 12 bombers (1 destroyed)

There were two land attacks - the Allied resistance north of Manilla is finally ended. Meanwhile in Burma a Japanese attack across the Sittang is thwarted. The British/Indian/Burmese troops suffer the loss of 3 rifle squads and 7 fighters (1 destroyed) but the Japanese suffer 26 rifle squads, 10 machine guns, 7 mortars, 14 trucks, 2 fighters and 4 bombers.

Irritatingly my bombers set to interdiction and right next to the hex decide that an attack on this vital hex would be entirely inappropriate....

The remaining combats were bombardments- mostly in China and Malaya - but without major casualties.


< Message edited by warspite1 -- 6/25/2018 4:57:39 PM >


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RE: PAW 1941-45 larryfulkerson (Axis) vs warspite1 (All... - 6/25/2018 6:02:17 PM   
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My god warspite just set the artillery range on those units to zero like it recommends in the scenario and the infantry will walk right in instead of bombarding the hex

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