From: Tucson, AZ
My advice FWIW would be just to play it as a fun scenario "inspired by" the Pacific War.
There's a scenario named "Pacific War" and for about half a second I thought that's what you meant. Nah, I'm kidding about that being what you meant. And of course that's good advice. I like thtat idea a lot. <two thumbs up>
If you wanted something more historical I think you'd need to have house rules like:
- (1) Having to secure the "Phase 1" Japanese objectives - securing Malaya/Singapore/Phil/NEI/Rabaul/a few other places - before adventuring further south etc.
- (2) Restrictions on the number of Army units you can use for expansion outside China in 41/42 - the original intention was I think to *reduce* the forces in the Pacific after the initial phase, to concentrate on China and prepare for Russia.
As much as I hate house rules I have to admit that makes sense. I second that motion.
- Some thinking around SEACAP. It seems to me that the Japanese have too much in the early stages?
On the other hand, once the Allies get going, my guess is that they'll be able to achieve equally unhistorical things themselves.
If that's the case, FWIW I guess I'd do what you're doing - expand as much as possible while the sun shines - but expect a lot of Allied bypassing once they get into gear & make sure you have a core inner defence barrier established in good time.
WTF is SEACAP? and yeah, they probably DO have to much in the early phases depending on what it is.
As far as I can see, the historical goal of cutting off Oz as a base doesn't make much difference in the scenario - how do you cut off a continent in TOAWX & why would it be essential to the Allies as a base? By the same token, not sure what the trade-offs would be for you in taking Australia. Tying up a lot of force in return for what victory ponts? - dunno. Australia actually supplied a lot of the US forces in the region with food etc etc - apparently Oz was a net reverse lend-lease donor - but don't see that reflected in the scenario. (Historically, invading Oz was a non-starter - the Army refused to provide the 10-12 divisions they thought it would need & the shipping was not available.)
I hear you. My problem is that I've played WITP-AE before and it was vitally important to take Australia out of the war early because of it's strategic location just south of the oil fields in Java and other DEI places. I don't know if this is true or not but I've been told that the Japs were sensitive about their oil gains and wanted enough territory between Australia and the DEI that the Allies wouldn't be able to bomb it with their bombers. They weren't counting on the B-29. You can't hide anything from that bomber, almost. And that plans were drawn up to capture the north coast of Oz and just hold onto it, no further adventures. Supply on the north shore is little to none for the Australians and I imagine it doesn't exist for the Japs; I haven't seen any supply points on the north coast ( which is what makes it a severe problem for the Allies too ). Also, there's a ton of replacements that spawn in Australia and if I could place one of my units on the several hexes that pertain, then I could put a stopper in the bottle for reinforcements. At least a little bit.
An ivasion of Australia WOULD take more resources than I could possibly get out of it and it's probably not possible at any rate. I see the wisdom of house rule #1 above and before any invasion of Oz takes place there must first be the reduction of Malaya and Sumatra and Java, etc. After all THAT has happened there may not be any remaining forces left over for an Oz adventure. As it is shipping is really limited for what I need ( want ) to do on the map. There's lots of important places I want to grab while it's still possible ( no Allied carriers dare sneak out to the south pacific without BB's ) and I'm having to prioritize the targets. I get 37500 tons of shipping each turn and invariably I run out before I have moved everybody to where they need to be. I need to get my perimeter established and able to defend itself before the Allies start their raids and invasions sometime in mid-1942 I'm thinking. Rob may want to wait longer than that just to be able to include the carrier he gets in late '42, the Exeter ? that's not it...some name with an E in it, not Enterprise that's already in theater.
To isolate Oz I was going to grab all the smaller islands between Guadalcanal and, say, Tahiti and place Sea Int planes on them so that the Allies would have to pass through the gauntlet to get closer to Oz. It would tend to stiffle troop transports unless they were heavily escorted. It might lengthen the war long enough for me to win the game. Besides it makes for a more exciting AAR.
In scenario terms, FWIW I'd look closely at whether you can take Hawaii and knock out India, while the going is good.
I've already got Midway so taking Pearl isn't impossible at all. There's some smaller islands that might help that effort that I might need to take first ( Johnston Island, etc. ) but yeah that's possible. In fact, there's so many reinforcements that spawn there that taking the islands would pay for all the losses it would cost.
And taking out India sounds like the kind of thing I should do. It would remove China as an active theater because China gets it's supply from India...it flows to the east from India I'm thinking. I've already scopped out the port of Calcutta and I can't decide whether or not it's too close to a main hub for reinforcements ( New Deli, by rail ) and that taking it would require at least 5 divisions to attempt it and another three to keep it going once a foothold is established. As I recall the Japs get some reinforcements in India, I forget the name of the city, it's in the far east of India almost to the Burma border. I'd almost have to drop a lot of the bridges that feed the Calcutta area to isolate the battlefield to prevent the introduction of more combatants. It sounds like a long drawn-out campaign instead of just a battle. On the other hand the supply situation would be better probably since there's a supply point in Calcutta IIRC. This deserves more study and maybe a discussion about where I should go next. Your advice is valuable because I'm still casting about for a good plan.
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