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Commonwealth Collision, 2018 - Pakistan-China side - 5/25/2018 10:23:28 PM   
giantsquid

 

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This is probably my favorite scenario of the LIVE series, together with Spratly Spat and Pole Position. I appreciated the original story, setup, weapons choices and right size for me (not too big). Congratulations to the authors!

I tried the scenario first playing the UK-India side using F-35s and Astute Tomahawk to conduct strikes and Mig-29s to obtain air superiority and stop recon attempts by enemy planes. Nice scenario with different way to achieve the objectives. I obtained a triumph at the first try.
Playing on the Pak-China side is more challenging, and I really loved this one too.

Here is a brief AAR

I made no attempt to achieve air superiority, just left 2 F16 on CAP to protect the port, guided by AEW. The proved useful to disrupt a Mig-29 strike.
I tried to close with my ships and submarines, going south. All my frigates were sunk by Brahamos and Mig-29 airstrike, together with 2 submarines moving at creep.

Using the high altitude Chinese drones to get some general fix of the enemy task forces, I closed with maritime patrol planes and attacked with 6 JF17, armed with fast CM-400 AKG Wrecker missiles, with tankers and F16 support, together with 8 Mirage 5 with Exocets. I combined them with 8 Klub missiles from a Chinese Type 93B submarine. Most escorts were sunk and Vikramaditya carrier damaged. I sunk it with a second Exocet strike.

In the meantime, F-35s from Queen Elizabeth attacked my facilities destroying them with JDAM. I manage to take a pair of them with my F-16s, losing them anyway. Another Chinese SSN is discovered and lost to enemy helicopters.

Nine hours later I attacked the second Indian task force with escorted JF17s with Wrecker missiles (always with tanker) and Mirage with Exocets. Like before, most escorts were sunk and Viraat carrier damaged. F-35s interfered, killing my F16s escorts and recon planes, but the strike fighter escaped.

I have been quite lucky having my 2 surviving submarines, 1 pakistani Agosta and 1 chinese Type 93 close to the UK task force moving at high speed. I tried to shot down helicopters with my F-16s but I’m killed by F-35s. At last I managed to reach a decent position and to kill all enemy ship but one Type 23 escort with a huge swarm of torpedoes. Both my sub are sunk but the Queen Elizabeth UK carrier is lost!

One last JF-17 attack with C802 missile (no more Wrecker) kills the surviving escort; same with
Mirage - Exocet on crippled Viraat.

Lost pretty much everything except for my precious strike planes but I got a Triumph anyway for killing the three carriers!

Some comments
In real life/against a human player after the first massive strike on indian carrier, the F35s would probably have attacked my strike plane base together with Tomahawk, crippling them. I could not defend with a bunch of F16s.
JF-17 is a nice small plane but cannot defend himself and is short legged. Mirage 5 was a solid medium range striker.
CM400 missile is fast and quite deadly, but the ballistic profile make it vulnerable to long range SAMs. A good number were shot down by modern Indian SAMs. Klub missile used on chines type-93b sub are excellent, but vulnerable in the first phase, before they release the high speed penetrator.
I didn’t try to attack the british with missiles. The F-35s and Type-45 Daring DDG would have killed them easily. My plan was to damage the carrier and kill the Daring with submarines and later finish them with missiles, but I have been lucky.
F-16 proved superior to Mig-29 in BVR fights, thanks to better Amraam performances, but it’s better to run away from F-35s

Losses and Expenditures (huge losses on both sides)

SIDE: India-UK
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LOSSES:
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28x MiG-29K Fulcrum D
1x D 51 Rajput [Pr.61ME Kashin II]
1x D 61 Delhi [Pr.15]
4x Ka-28 Helix A
10x Lightning II [F-35B]
1x R 33 Vikramaditya [Gorshkov]
8x Sea King Mk42B [HAS.2]
1x S 44 Shishumar [Type 209-1500]
1x F 20 Godavari
2x F 47 Shivalik [Pr.17]
1x SA.316B Chetak MATCH [ASW, Alouette III]
7x Merlin HM.2
1x F 230 Norfolk [Type 23 Duke]
4x Ka-31 Helix
2x Merlin ASaC.1 [Interim]
1x R 08 Queen Elizabeth
4x Wildcat HMA.2 [AW.159]
1x D 35 Dragon [Type 45 Batch 2]
1x F 230 Norfolk [Type 23 Duke]
1x R 24 Vikrant


EXPENDITURES:
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82x SSQ-926 ALFEA
246x SSQ-963D CAMBS VI
67x RGB-NM-1 [Passive Omni]
2x SS-N-27 Sizzler [3M54E1 Klub]
33x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges]
8x PJ-10 Brahmos
10x Spearfish Mod 0
34x AIM-120C-5 AMRAAM P3I.2
2x AS-17 Krypton C [Kh-31P, ARM]
3x AA-11 Archer [R-73]
20x AA-12 Adder A [R-77, RVV-AE]
7x Aster 30 PAAMS [GWS.45 Sea Viper]
19x SA-N-12 Grizzly [9M317]
8x SA-N-7 Gadfly [9M38]
1x 30mm Gsh-30-1 Burst [30 rnds]
9x Barak I
5x 57mm/70 Twin HE Burst [2 rnds]
1x AK-630 30mm/65 Gatling Burst [400 rnds]
2x PK-16 Chaff [TSP-60U]
9x PK-2 Chaff [TSP-47]
6x AK-230 30mm/65 Twin Burst [50 rnds]
2x BT-4 Chaff
2x GBU-32(V)2/B JDAM [Mk83]
2x Generic Flare Salvo [3x Cartridges, Dual Spectral]
2x SS-N-15 Starfish [RPK-6 Vodopad, UMGT-1 Torpedo]
2x SUT Mod 1
2x Generic Acoustic Decoy
1x G738 [Type 182] Towed Torpedo Decoy
4x A.244S
48x Super Barricade Chaff
5x Stingray Mod 1
4x Type 2170 Sea Sentor SSTD
3x CONTRALTO-V [SLAT]
14x Sea Ceptor [CAMM(M)]
6x 114mm/55 Mk8 HE(MP)ER HE
11x Mk214 Sea Gnat Chaff [Seduction]
4x Mk251 Siren Active Decoy Round
2x DLF(3) Advanced Inflatable Decoy



SIDE: Pakistan Ground Forces
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LOSSES:
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EXPENDITURES:
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SIDE: Pakistan-China
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LOSSES:
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3x Z-9EC Dauphin 2
3x F 251 Zulfiquar [F-22P Class, Mod Type 053H3 Jiangwei II]
1x BZK-005 Sea Eagle UAV
1x Type 091 Han
1x Vehicle (UAR-1021 Skyguard)
2x 35mm Twin Oerlikon [UAR-1021 Skyguard FCR]
4x Lynx HAS.3
1x F 181 Tariq [Type 21 Amazon Class]
1x F 260 Alamgir [Perry Class]
1x F 182 Babur [Type 21 Amazon Class]
7x F-16AM Falcon MLU
1x Structure (Oil Refinery)
2x S 139 Improved Khalid [Agosta 90B]
1x F.27-200MAR Maritime
1x Type 093B Shang
2x Y-8W Cub [High New 5, KJ-200 Balance Beam]
1x Type 093 Shang


EXPENDITURES:
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2x HQ-64 [Aspide, LY-60N]
40x AIM-120C-5 AMRAAM P3I.2
2x 20mm/100 Mk15 Phalanx Blk 1B Burst [300 rnds]
2x 76mm/62 Compact HE Burst [4 rnds]
2x Corvus Chaff [Distraction]
2x Corvus Chaff [Seduction]
6x Generic Chaff Rocket
1x 30mm China H/PJ-12 [Type 730, 240 rnds]
2x Yu-4B
8x Generic Acoustic Decoy
16x SSQ-947 Julie Active Range-Only [AN/SSQ-47]
24x HQ-16B
4x 35mm Twin Oerlikon Burst [20 rnds, UAR-1021 Skyguard]
29x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges]
8x YJ-18 [3M54E Klub Copy]
22x CM-400AKG Wrecker [ASM, YJ-12 Derivative]
7x YJ-18 [3M54E Klub Copy, Rocket Boosted Penetrator]
20x AM.39 Exocet Blk I
2x AIM-9M Sidewinder
12x F17 Mod 2
4x Generic Acoustic Decoy
9x Yu-6
12x YJ-83K [C-802AK]



< Message edited by giantsquid -- 5/25/2018 10:24:11 PM >
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RE: Commonwealth Collision, 2018 - Pakistan-China side - 5/26/2018 12:03:16 AM   
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Great AAR, thanks for writing it.

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RE: Commonwealth Collision, 2018 - Pakistan-China side - 5/26/2018 2:09:23 PM   
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Thanks! Did you design it? I have Black Gold LIVE too. I loved the idea but it's too big for me so I just did some planning as Iran by now.

Francesco

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RE: Commonwealth Collision, 2018 - Pakistan-China side - 5/27/2018 12:01:06 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: giantsquid

Thanks! Did you design it?



Yep, I certainly did.

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RE: Commonwealth Collision, 2018 - Pakistan-China side - 5/27/2018 10:19:44 PM   
giantsquid

 

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Thanks, it's a great work.

I love the approach: using a high/low mix of forces to achieve your objective, learning to use some offensive game-changing weapons, like the F35 and Wrecker/Klub missiles. I like the size too. Some of the scenario are too big for me. I like to micro-manage and understand what's going exactly and experiment with different real world tactics.

Francesco

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