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Newbie - 3/6/2018 8:15:42 PM   
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Hi

Just found out about this site/company. I played Avalon Hill Games back in the day. Looking for a turn based IGOUGO game to play on my computer that is Easy/Introductory. Like the AH game Tactics 2.

There are a LOT of titles here. Can you all help me out with some suggestions?
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RE: Newbie - 3/6/2018 8:26:25 PM   
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Hi Duke Badgerman! (or is it Duke Bad German? :))
I am not sure what Tactics II was like but maybe the Battle Academy 1 and 2 games could offer what you are looking for? i notice that Tactics 2 had square hexes which Battle Academy has also

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RE: Newbie - 3/6/2018 8:33:28 PM   
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Hi,

It is Badgerman, as in, Wisconsin Badgers. ;-)

Thanks for the quick reply. Tactic II was an intro game to teach the basics. You might only have 30 cardboard pieces on the board to start. I want to teach my kids this stuff but need to start with something "entry level" if you know what I mean. And something you play against the computer.

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RE: Newbie - 3/6/2018 10:43:19 PM   
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Give Order of Battle: World War II a try. The base game is free. All the DLC is great too.

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RE: Newbie - 3/7/2018 12:11:33 AM   
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Panzer Korps is real easy but lots of fun

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RE: Newbie - 3/7/2018 1:48:19 AM   
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You are looking for a game called Small General. It can be played on phones, and other tablets as well as computers.

It's downright beginner friendly.

For games here, Battle Academy for tactical, Panzer Corps for Operational, and Strategic Command for grand strategy are all designs that won't overwhelm you. Unity of Command is also user-friendly.


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RE: Newbie - 3/7/2018 3:15:26 AM   
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I'll 2nd anything that has minature pieces as those are the things that draw young wargamers in. Battle Academy is a good start. Simple, easy to play and very few rules to understand. Just basically point and click n go or shoot.

Panzer Corp will be fun for them also, but, I'd hardly suggest it for an experienced wargamer as it's just too easy and simple with very little challenge to me. Might be fun for an 8 to 12 year old though getting into wargaming.

One of my favorites and a more intermediate to advanced game would be Panzer Command: Osfront, minatures, tactical and wego though but very enjoyable since each turn is played in turns and the action is wego.

Off the beaten path of Matrixgames is a little company called Killerbee Software which has two very enjoyable entry level games; Empire Deluxe (point and click movement and battles) and The Perfect General (pretty much the same but you get to pick your forces each battle and during reinforcement phases.) Both very simple easy games to play for a beginner wargamer and at the highest difficulty even challenging for an experienced wargamer.

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RE: Newbie - 3/7/2018 4:06:51 AM   
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Thank you all for the help and suggestions.

Will check this all out.

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RE: Newbie - 3/7/2018 2:29:53 PM   
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So what other AH games did you play? Squad Leader? Panzerblitz? Just curious as there are many games here that fill some of those niches quite well.


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RE: Newbie - 3/7/2018 3:16:17 PM   
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Back in the day we played Sports Illustrated Football (Later known as Paydirt!), Tactics II, a little Panzer leader, a little Squad Leader, and a little Diplomacy.

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RE: Newbie - 3/7/2018 3:26:43 PM   
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Germany at War Barbarossa 1941...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wUepOn3hLM&t=61s

Matrix Games (demo available):
http://www.matrixgames.com/products/472/details/Germany.at.War.Barbarossa.1941

Welcome aboard and have fun with what ever game you get!

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RE: Newbie - 3/7/2018 5:41:42 PM   
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For a Squad Leader fix, look at Tigers on the Hunt game.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tt.asp?forumid=1566

If you like Panzer Leader then definitely check out Campaign Series games (2), one covers WW2 and the second covers 1948 - 1985, all at platoon level. Good stuff!

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tt.asp?forumid=1515

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tt.asp?forumid=226

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RE: Newbie - 3/8/2018 4:12:56 AM   
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Campaign series is good for the Panzer Leader fix.

But Steel Panthers 3 Brigade Combat is ideal too. Visually and playwise, about equal.

I'm debating getting Tigers on the Hunt. It's amazing I don't already own it. Unsure it is beginner friendly, it's kinda like its board game equal, but the Advanced Squad Leader version.

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RE: Newbie - 3/8/2018 5:36:56 AM   
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Campaign series is good for the Panzer Leader fix.

But Steel Panthers 3 Brigade Combat is ideal too. Visually and playwise, about equal.

I'm debating getting Tigers on the Hunt. It's amazing I don't already own it. Unsure it is beginner friendly, it's kinda like its board game equal, but the Advanced Squad Leader version.


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RE: Newbie - 3/8/2018 6:03:41 AM   
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The Campaign Series has a lot going for it: hundreds of scenarios, linked and dynamic campaigns, all three main theatres of operation (West Front, East Font and PTO), detailed descriptions for every unit, dozens of terrain types and, least but not last, it is easy to learn, and a blast both in SP and MP.

I bought my first title, the original West Front, back in the late '90s - and since then this series of games never abandoned my HDs. I personally consider it a better game than the various iterations of Steel Panthers.

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RE: Newbie - 3/8/2018 2:34:04 PM   
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On Wisconsin!

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RE: Newbie - 3/8/2018 3:56:52 PM   
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The Campaign Series is a good game.
I do not find him flaws.
And yet I can not hang on.
This game is an enigma for me.
Sorry.

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RE: Newbie - 3/8/2018 4:33:38 PM   
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On Wisconsin!

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RE: Newbie - 3/10/2018 1:17:57 PM   
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Hi,

I don't see either one of those Campaigns games available for sale. Only one I see is one for the Middle East.

Are they discontinued?

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RE: Newbie - 3/10/2018 1:24:57 PM   
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No they are still active. Try this link for WW2 Campaign Series.

http://www.matrixgames.com/store/product.asp?gid=318


Tigers on the Hunt link

http://www.matrixgames.com/store/product.asp?gid=578

Hope this helps.






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RE: Newbie - 3/10/2018 3:09:55 PM   
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More games from John Tiller

Yeah, there are heck of a lot war games available. Many good ones are available for free. Battle for Wesnoth is a community created game at its finest, and is a better game than many commercial ones.

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Another free game, historical one, is Field of Strategy. Player plot movements, but units choose autonomously who they attack.

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RE: Newbie - 3/10/2018 8:10:39 PM   
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That Wesnoth game is cool! Thanks for the tip.

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RE: Newbie - 3/11/2018 7:36:44 PM   
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Battle Academy 2 maybe?

Decisive Campaign Barbarossa

TOAW4

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RE: Newbie - 3/12/2018 1:06:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MrsWargamer

You are looking for a game called Small General. It can be played on phones, and other tablets as well as computers.

It's downright beginner friendly.



Seconded the nomination of Small General as a first step into the digital gaming world. Incredibly intuitive UI and a fun game with some challenging scenarios.

Before someone else jumps in and yells at me - it is NOT the be-all and end-all of digital wargaming. It's a great first step into digital wargaming.

Review of SG Eastern Front http://grogheads.com/review/456
Review of the generic base game http://grogheads.com/review/2093

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RE: Newbie - 3/12/2018 2:06:26 PM   
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Germany at War: Barbarossa 1941 was mentioned above. I highly recommend this, it is one of my favorite Matrix games. A great thing is that it is still actively supported with updates etc. The developer Ronald Wendt has done a great job with this game and has made changes based upon player feedback.

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RE: Newbie - 3/12/2018 6:52:43 PM   
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I can recommend the JTCS pack. It should be cheap as chips by now and... well, you like Panzer Leader etc. Be aware... that, for some reason, even nowadays some new Linked Campaigns for JTCS pop up... recently, some good stuff from my fellow fatherlanders! - See the Hauptkampflinie blog.

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RE: Newbie - 3/12/2018 11:37:39 PM   
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I agree. Its unlikely one a f the complex grognard wargames will be suited for a newbie. That's something to progress too.


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quote:

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You are looking for a game called Small General. It can be played on phones, and other tablets as well as computers.

It's downright beginner friendly.



Seconded the nomination of Small General as a first step into the digital gaming world. Incredibly intuitive UI and a fun game with some challenging scenarios.

Before someone else jumps in and yells at me - it is NOT the be-all and end-all of digital wargaming. It's a great first step into digital wargaming.

Review of SG Eastern Front http://grogheads.com/review/456
Review of the generic base game http://grogheads.com/review/2093



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RE: Newbie - 3/13/2018 5:04:41 PM   
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I agree. Its unlikely one a f the complex grognard wargames will be suited for a newbie. That's something to progress too.

You don't say? I recall somebody commenting that WitP:AE is perfect game for beginners

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RE: Newbie - 3/14/2018 5:45:41 PM   
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That Wesnoth game is cool! Thanks for the tip.



Wesnoth is completely awesome - I didn't mention it above b/c I was thinking of groggier games.

The base included campaign is excellent, but the Rise of Wesnoth is even better. The Tale of Two Brothers is a nice, short campaign, and The Northern Rebirth was a lot of fun.

There's a ton of great campaigning you can do in Wesnoth, if you into a fantasy wargame/RPG hybrid like that.

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RE: Newbie - 3/15/2018 10:38:33 AM   
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Hi dukebadgerman,
Like you, Tactics two was the first A.H. game I ever played and it was the start of everything. There are lot's of excellent games here and I have a few of them (must remember to register them now that I've joined the forums)

I can't say much about easy/introductory, after all that is defined by both your skill as a player and your desire to learn a game. I do however suggest you check out the various tittles that are WEGO. It is a far more satisfying system than the traditional IGOUGO. Basically, you issue orders to your units and so does the AI, when you press end turn those orders are executed at the same time. This leads to a lot of interesting situations as the enemy is very often not where you expect, it is also far more realistic though it can be tense. Check out Civil War 2 or Birth of America if you can. They both have a learning curve but include enough smaller scenarios that will allow you to gradually increase your proficiency with the games.

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