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CIWS in commercial ship - 3/1/2018 8:48:40 AM   
Sardaukar


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Hi,

If I just add CIWS (Phalanx/Goalkeeper/etc.) to ship, would they work? They are supposedly autonomous, but wondering if I'd need to add extra sensors?

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RE: CIWS in commercial ship - 3/2/2018 5:35:24 PM   
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Anyone guys? Of course I could test this, but asking first is usually better.

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RE: CIWS in commercial ship - 3/2/2018 6:40:42 PM   
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hi
The Mk15 Phallanx can work alone without a sensor. I use it with go fast ships, to simulate pirate attacks against warships.

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RE: CIWS in commercial ship - 3/2/2018 10:21:42 PM   
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Thanks!

Trying to simulate high-value cargo ship transiting from South Baltic to Finland and wanted to add at least some air defence vs missiles. Swedish Navy is woefully under-equipped for escort duty, e.g. Visby-class corvettes lacking SAMs etc.

Idea is to have high-value SAM system transiting to Finland in large cargo ship and Russians from Kaliningrad trying to sink it. OF course there are Swedish Gripens...but...

Idea is that opposition is bunch of Su-34s and couple of DE subs. Latter are not that big problem, since Swedish have ASW capability and own subs, Su-34s are different sory.

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RE: CIWS in commercial ship - 3/17/2018 6:48:28 PM   
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Not a bad idea for Phalanx, never going to happen with Goalkeeper.

Both systems can operate independently of other sensors, but people should also take into account installation of systems into ship when modding (if realism is what you're looking for). Phalanx is a pretty much much self contained system. Give it power (assuming you have enough supply) cooling water supply (from a fireman or similar) and a place to mount the control panel, you're pretty much good to go. Goalkeeper has a 3 deck ammunition feed system (or it did last time I looked at one) so realistically you would need to design the ship around the system, especially with the usual configuration of mounting 2 on larger ships. That's not to say Phalanx is 'better', as it can fire all it's ammo in 30 seconds or so (16 with the block 0 version) and takes around 10 minutes, with a good crew, to reload in an exposed location. Not where you want to be in a battle really....


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RE: CIWS in commercial ship - 3/17/2018 8:41:28 PM   
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I'm pretty sure if they can do this with the system (C-RAM), it can be mounted on a cargo ship. You probably need a general search radar as well to que things up.

Fairly sure the Brits have built a C-RAM with Goalkeeper as well. I'll take a quick look.






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RE: CIWS in commercial ship - 3/17/2018 9:04:40 PM   
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Sorry about that photo! Huge!

Couldn't find anything on Goalkeeper, seems 16 RA is using the Phalanx based C-RAM, pretty sure its linked to a Skyguard search radar though, not the American one.

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