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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/22/2018 6:52:04 AM   
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quote:ORIGINAL: cantona2
Will be interesting to see how the amphibious bit of the scenario plays out here as
I am finding it impossible to carry out without naval support

I think you can only disembark in port hexes. very easy for the axis player to garrison
them as you cannot land North of Salerno. Once again cannot fathom the absence of naval support assets
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I agree that this scenario would be a much different game with ships. I miss the ships too.

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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/22/2018 12:46:53 PM   
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Here's the T32 front lines after I have moved everybody. The MLR's are backing up one hex. Brian is pressing hard.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/22/2018 7:03:17 PM   
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Here's the T33 front lines just after the combat replay ended. Brian has gained
another hex. The MLR is crumbling and the units are being destroyed making way for
his units. I'm going to have to pull back the south MLR and make it integral to the
northern one.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/22/2018 7:07:24 PM   
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I'm evacuating the southern MLR and using the elements to build another one leaving
just a few units to allow the movement of the others. I'm deciding if I want to
evacuate the Germans now or not.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/22/2018 7:14:53 PM   
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Looking good to match the historical timeline now Larry.

Just a quick question...there are decent sized German garrisons on Sardinia and Corsica including an SS mobile Division. I am assuming you have already shipped them back to the mainland ?


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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/22/2018 7:36:57 PM   
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Looking good to match the historical timeline now Larry.

Just a quick question...there are decent sized German garrisons on Sardinia and Corsica including an SS mobile Division. I am assuming you have already shipped them back to the mainland ?

But yes. I found them not doing anything and there's a lot of ports to cover so as to prevent an
Allied landing so very far north. I can't cover all the ports however so he'll probably get ashore
somewhere. Then I'll have to mobilize the units to get into their path and slow them down so that
other units can help out. I put some Panzers in Rome just in case.

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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/22/2018 7:39:52 PM   
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Remember he can't invade anywhere NORTH of Salerno....

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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/22/2018 8:00:44 PM   
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Remember he can't invade anywhere NORTH of Salerno....

Yeah, I remember hearing that from somewhere. I think I read it in the scenario briefing
and I think it's good news. I've checked out the west coast of Italy and I've found a lot
of ports in the south but not very many north of Rome. So I'm trying to stop up the ports
so as to prevent any surprises along the way. I'm thinking of leaving one port open so I
can channel his movement a little.

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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/22/2018 10:52:00 PM   
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Larry,

I like the idea trying to shape the battle - leaving one port open to "draw" or channel the Allied forces. Hopefully it will work!

All the best,

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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/23/2018 4:39:32 AM   
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Larry,

I like the idea trying to shape the battle - leaving one port open to "draw" or channel the Allied forces. Hopefully it will work!

All the best,

Mike

Thanks for your kind words.

This is the turn where I start to pull some of the German units off the island. I've
moved the first group of 9 to the port and the next group is close behind.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/23/2018 3:16:26 PM   
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Here's the T35 front lines before I have moved anybody. There's a lot of German
units stacked up at the port that I need to sail to Italy but that's not all I
need to move. I want to get all the German units off the island if possible.
Brian is doing his best to interrupt that.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/23/2018 6:48:08 PM   
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Well, hopefully for you Brian is slow in pushing forward...

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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/23/2018 7:17:21 PM   
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Well, hopefully for you Brian is slow in pushing forward...

I have a sneaking suspecision that Brian is going to blast through my lines and
attack the port itself and trap all my Italians before I can get them off the
island. That's what I would do.

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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/23/2018 7:21:36 PM   
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Larry,

Me too, I do not have patience for a slow advance...

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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/23/2018 8:01:59 PM   
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Larry,

Me too, I do not have patience for a slow advance...

Brian is one of the more agressive players and likes to take risks. He and I have
been playing something together for over a year now and I've gotten used to his
style and I like it a lot....it's a lot like my style.

I don't have any reserves, every man is holding his rifle and for the most part the
Italian units are the 1-1's you use for recon or garrison or for placeholders and
can't stand up to Brian's death star stacks. He's probably got plans already what
he's going to do. If I were him I'd make a probing attack of contiguous units over
to the port and occupy it, trapping all the Axis stuff on the island. Messina is
also the one supply point for the Axis on the island so taking the port would start
the pestilence process on all the Axis units. I probably wouldn't be able to do
anything about his probe and that would spell the end of the struggle on the island.
The rest would just be mop up. I'm going to have to get all the Axis planes off the
island pretty soon now.

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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/23/2018 10:11:43 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MikeJ19
Well, hopefully for you Brian is slow in pushing forward...

I have a sneaking suspecision that Brian is going to blast through my lines and
attack the port itself and trap all my Italians before I can get them off the
island. That's what I would do.


Probably too late to work, but probably what you'd need to do is to have established a final line fully fortified in the hills around the port to cover a final turn or two of withdrawals.

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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/24/2018 2:52:40 PM   
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Brian gave his guys the day off, let them rest and refit a bit. So I gave mine the
day off too. I moved another boat-load of Germans to the mainland. One more to go
for the Germans. Then I'll start moving the HQ units of the Italians and the arty
and whatever else I can save. I'm parking my units on ports to make it a little
harder for Brian to land on the mainland somewhere but I don't think I can cover
all the ports so Brian will probably find an open one somewhere or other.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/24/2018 2:55:37 PM   
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Probably too late to work, but probably what you'd need to do is to have established
a final line fully fortified in the hills around the port to cover a final turn or two
of withdrawals.

Hey that's a good idea. I like that idea. I'll see what I can do about it. Shouldn't
be too hard to do something like that. The Italian units are mostly 1-1's and aren't
good for much so it's not much of a loss if they are killed. I can't use them for
anything important. Recon maybe.

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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/24/2018 9:00:18 PM   
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Brian did one attack during his turn. I guess he's got supply woes or something.
At any rate I'm going to use the turn to get some more Germans to the mainland.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/24/2018 9:23:59 PM   
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Per DanNeeley's suggestion I pulled a lot of the troops back to form the Alamo line
as the last MLR for the battle. I've got the last boat-load of German elements at
the port ready to go next turn and once the Germans are off the island I'll start
moving the Italians that are left after all the carnage.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/24/2018 11:19:46 PM   
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That's not quite what I'd had in mind.

I was thinking in terms of a prepared fall back position for the survivors to retreat to when your previous MLR started to crumble or when withdrawals of the Italians made holding 8 hexes untenable.

I was thinking more of a 3 or 4 hex long perimeter immediately around the port and possibly extending a second hex to the southwest that you could have a few already fortified units in place before the main withdrawal.

As it is, I'm not sure that shortening your line from 8 hexes to 6 is worth the lower levels of entrenchment on the majority of your troops.



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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/25/2018 12:01:36 AM   
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Larry,

Well done in getting most of the German units off Sicily.

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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/25/2018 12:06:32 AM   
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That's not quite what I'd had in mind.

I was thinking in terms of a prepared fall back position for the survivors to retreat to when your previous MLR started to crumble or when withdrawals of the Italians made holding 8 hexes untenable.

I was thinking more of a 3 or 4 hex long perimeter immediately around the port and possibly extending a second hex to the southwest that you could have a few already fortified units in place before the main withdrawal.

As it is, I'm not sure that shortening your line from 8 hexes to 6 is worth the lower levels of entrenchment on the majority of your troops.

OOoops. Well, um....I'm going to try to evacuate the Itallians too so they all needed to be nearer
the port anyway. Brian gave his troops the day off two turns ago, and there was only one attack
last turn and this turn saw only one attack....I'm thinking he's out of supplies or something. He
can't possibly be giving me a chance to get them all off the island, he wouldn't do THAT. I don't
think.

Part of the problem with this scenario is that the respawning reinforcements are supposed to spawn
in the American part of the island so I'm not getting them. D'oh. I'll have to remember that for
next time, if there IS a next time.

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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/25/2018 12:10:20 AM   
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Larry,
Well done in getting most of the German units off Sicily.

Well, thank you, thank you <bows from the waist>. I'm using them to stop up the open
ports on the mainland so that he'll have to attack something to get ashore. And there
is a decided lack of naval boats so it'll be an interesting assault I'm thinking. He
probably will pick a big port somewhere and move ALL his people there. Like Taranto
or somewhere.

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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/25/2018 3:19:30 AM   
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This is probably the last boat load that will make it across the channel from the
island because I expect Brian to have control of the port by next turn. He's
sending the Americans to the north along the coastal road to bottle up the Italians
from the north as well as from the west. I expect all these Italians to evaporate.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/25/2018 6:17:01 PM   
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Brian has forced the Italians into the corner in a semi-circle around the port. I've
got a stack of HQ's at the port ready to go next time and the last of the Germans are
on the mainland along with all the Italian arty. I'd be surprised if Brian doesn't
own the port next turn.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/25/2018 6:20:30 PM   
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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/25/2018 8:01:25 PM   
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Here's the T40 front lines before I have moved anybody. Brian has been pressing hard
for the port and he has gained some hexes with his drive but he has stopped short and
therefore there's another turn to move a boat-load to the mainland.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/25/2018 8:12:47 PM   
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This is what I decided to do. Another boat load of Italian units made it across the
channel, HQ's this time. And I'm thinking that's the last boat load that's going to
make it into the water and across the channel. I'm thinking Brian is going to put a
stop to the transfers pretty quickly now.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner's Pass ( Brian and larry ) - 2/25/2018 8:27:12 PM   
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Well done!

Well, thank you very much. It's all in the wrist movement.

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