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Insanely overpowered Soviet Air Support - 2/6/2018 2:47:51 PM   
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Dedicated to HardLuckYetAgain, and with honorable mention to M60 I want to post an insane ground support battle report as pictured below. This is after we have destroyed over 8000 aircraft in 12 turns!?!
Also note -- NO SOVIET LOSSES! I believe the developers need to completely rewrite the OOB as the Soviets are way too powerful ...
[sarcasm=off]

[For those that wonder what happened ... a recon spam (was not me ) exceeded the game parameters and the battle reports became corrupted. But I could not resist
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RE: Insanely overpowered Soviet Air Support - 2/6/2018 2:50:42 PM   
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No damage for any side !! This is treason !!!!!

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RE: Insanely overpowered Soviet Air Support - 2/6/2018 2:57:07 PM   
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As an Axis recon fanboy I want to say how proud I am of those pilots that they joined their brother fighter and bomber pilots, picked up some grenades and pistols, and went to join in on the dogfight. And how that German infantry and artillery got into the sky heaven knows. But a great team effort!

I suppose at this point I should say, unusually, this was not done by me either.

So come on guys - post your screenshots of the insanely OP Soviet side!

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RE: Insanely overpowered Soviet Air Support - 2/6/2018 3:03:50 PM   
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I want to say I wish it was not done by me either!!

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RE: Insanely overpowered Soviet Air Support - 2/6/2018 3:08:09 PM   
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On tonight's show of To Tell the Truth, which one of our 3 guests was the real recon spammer?

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RE: Insanely overpowered Soviet Air Support - 2/6/2018 3:11:02 PM   
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I think it is clear at this point who it is . Kenchis silence shows his guilt.....

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RE: Insanely overpowered Soviet Air Support - 2/6/2018 3:50:28 PM   
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Recon spam...where your Luftwaffe fantasies can become a reality.

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RE: Insanely overpowered Soviet Air Support - 2/6/2018 4:11:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Crackaces

[sarcasm=on]

Dedicated to HardLuckYetAgain, and with honorable mention to M60 I want to post an insane ground support battle report as pictured below. This is after we have destroyed over 8000 aircraft in 12 turns!?!
Also note -- NO SOVIET LOSSES! I believe the developers need to completely rewrite the OOB as the Soviets are way too powerful ...
[sarcasm=off]

[For those that wonder what happened ... a recon spam (was not me ) exceeded the game parameters and the battle reports became corrupted. But I could not resist
)





Interesting, but I don't know why this would be dedicated to me ;-P. I have worked on my addiction and have changed ways, somewhat......

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RE: Insanely overpowered Soviet Air Support - 2/6/2018 4:15:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain


quote:

ORIGINAL: Crackaces

[sarcasm=on]

Dedicated to HardLuckYetAgain, and with honorable mention to M60 I want to post an insane ground support battle report as pictured below. This is after we have destroyed over 8000 aircraft in 12 turns!?!
Also note -- NO SOVIET LOSSES! I believe the developers need to completely rewrite the OOB as the Soviets are way too powerful ...
[sarcasm=off]

[For those that wonder what happened ... a recon spam (was not me ) exceeded the game parameters and the battle reports became corrupted. But I could not resist
)





Interesting, but I don't know why this would be dedicated to me ;-P. I have worked on my addiction and have changed ways, somewhat......


I'll vouch for that. Now he's just drawing straight lines instead of more elaborate arrows. But the meaning is still clear.

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RE: Insanely overpowered Soviet Air Support - 2/6/2018 4:20:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS


quote:

ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain


quote:

ORIGINAL: Crackaces

[sarcasm=on]

Dedicated to HardLuckYetAgain, and with honorable mention to M60 I want to post an insane ground support battle report as pictured below. This is after we have destroyed over 8000 aircraft in 12 turns!?!
Also note -- NO SOVIET LOSSES! I believe the developers need to completely rewrite the OOB as the Soviets are way too powerful ...
[sarcasm=off]

[For those that wonder what happened ... a recon spam (was not me ) exceeded the game parameters and the battle reports became corrupted. But I could not resist
)



Interesting, but I don't know why this would be dedicated to me ;-P. I have worked on my addiction and have changed ways, somewhat......


I'll vouch for that. Now he's just drawing straight lines instead of more elaborate arrows. But the meaning is still clear.


I have always drawn straight lines with Recon leaving a hex or two between them to saturate coverage. Not often but it does happen the recon will miss a unit. But very rare during that saturation.

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RE: Insanely overpowered Soviet Air Support - 2/6/2018 4:21:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain


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ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS


quote:

ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain


quote:

ORIGINAL: Crackaces

[sarcasm=on]

Dedicated to HardLuckYetAgain, and with honorable mention to M60 I want to post an insane ground support battle report as pictured below. This is after we have destroyed over 8000 aircraft in 12 turns!?!
Also note -- NO SOVIET LOSSES! I believe the developers need to completely rewrite the OOB as the Soviets are way too powerful ...
[sarcasm=off]

[For those that wonder what happened ... a recon spam (was not me ) exceeded the game parameters and the battle reports became corrupted. But I could not resist
)



Interesting, but I don't know why this would be dedicated to me ;-P. I have worked on my addiction and have changed ways, somewhat......


I'll vouch for that. Now he's just drawing straight lines instead of more elaborate arrows. But the meaning is still clear.


I have always drawn straight lines with Recon leaving a hex or two between them to saturate coverage. Not often but it does happen the recon will miss a unit. But very rare during that saturation.


I have yet to draw any arrows yet. I had the urge but the time is not ready.............. yet.

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RE: Insanely overpowered Soviet Air Support - 2/6/2018 4:22:58 PM   
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I liked the Soviet cat better ....

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RE: Insanely overpowered Soviet Air Support - 2/6/2018 4:25:33 PM   
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I liked the Soviet cat better ....


Noted. I will re-initiate my daughters drawing :)

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RE: Insanely overpowered Soviet Air Support - 2/6/2018 4:30:30 PM   
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I liked the Soviet cat better ....


Noted. I will re-initiate my daughters drawing :)


Better? I have another one that is animated where the panther starts with an empty paw, a star appears in the claws, cracks form in the star, then the star gets swiped to nothing by the panther. The only problem is I haven't worked on putting it up.


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RE: Insanely overpowered Soviet Air Support - 2/6/2018 4:54:26 PM   
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I forecast by next year we will have pixelated recon battle reports pictures of the Mona Lisa, Van Goghs, ...

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RE: Insanely overpowered Soviet Air Support - 2/6/2018 5:04:50 PM   
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I forecast by next year we will have pixelated recon battle reports pictures of the Mona Lisa, Van Goghs, ...


Now if I can only get a nice recon picture of the beautiful Redhead woman next door sunbathing nude, face up ;-P


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RE: Insanely overpowered Soviet Air Support - 2/6/2018 6:08:10 PM   
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I think it is clear at this point who it is . Kenchis silence shows his guilt.....



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RE: Insanely overpowered Soviet Air Support - 2/6/2018 6:37:11 PM   
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I think it is clear at this point who it is . Kenchis silence shows his guilt.....



You are NOT my friend, my friend


Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room!

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RE: Insanely overpowered Soviet Air Support - 2/6/2018 6:50:50 PM   
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I think it is clear at this point who it is . Kenchis silence shows his guilt.....



You are NOT my friend, my friend


Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room!


I am just waiting for the real screenshots of our air losses this turn. I also vote that as Kenchis fault

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RE: Insanely overpowered Soviet Air Support - 2/6/2018 6:52:30 PM   
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quote:

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I think it is clear at this point who it is . Kenchis silence shows his guilt.....



You are NOT my friend, my friend


Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room!


I am just waiting for the real screenshots of our air losses this turn. Also all Kenchis fault


I'm SPAM reconning to see if there is a fight!!!!!!

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RE: Insanely overpowered Soviet Air Support - 2/26/2018 10:53:24 PM   
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Can I get some pointers on how to get that quantity of air power for the SOV side in turn 12?

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RE: Insanely overpowered Soviet Air Support - 2/27/2018 1:47:52 PM   
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Those who play a lot as Soviet can give better advice. Here are some general ideas - but you would probably be better off ask more specific questions on particular examples.

- rotate low morale groups in and out of reserve every turn
- do not put your airbases where they can be bombed by the Germans (too much); and place them optimally for your missions
- manage your upgrade and replacement settings to get your best airgroups to have the most and best aircraft
- get lots of easy "wins" to give your air groups experience and morale - the Finnish air force is an easy one to pick on?
- understand and manage air doctrine properly
- do not spend all your airgroup miles driving aircraft over ground in bases - use them for flying!
- look at fatigue
- manually select which airgroups go to which missions when you can

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RE: Insanely overpowered Soviet Air Support - 2/27/2018 6:29:06 PM   
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Does fatigue work the same with air units as ground units (50% fatigue reduces effectiveness 50%)?

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RE: Insanely overpowered Soviet Air Support - 2/27/2018 6:50:47 PM   
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Not sure of the formula actually but if anything it seems to get more than proportionately worse. From experience it seems a fresh unit on its first mission can do multiples of what it can do after some fatigue enters. Which is why choosing the first mission your units do each turn is important.

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RE: Insanely overpowered Soviet Air Support - 2/27/2018 11:07:59 PM   
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Thanks Telemecus, will keep that in mind.

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RE: Insanely overpowered Soviet Air Support - 3/3/2018 3:25:32 AM   
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Not sure of the formula actually but if anything it seems to get more than proportionately worse. From experience it seems a fresh unit on its first mission can do multiples of what it can do after some fatigue enters. Which is why choosing the first mission your units do each turn is important.


I think that really influenced the results in the Osinovents bombing trial. A few turns I bombed multiple airbases first then bombed Osinovets and my results were very poor at best. After realizing this with bringing in fresh Stukas and I saw 10% damage per run ..

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