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windows 10 test install - 1/18/2018 3:30:18 PM   
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Operating System: Windows 10 Home Single Language 64-bit (10.0, Build 16299) (16299.rs3_release.170928-1534)

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2700K CPU @ 3.50GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.5GHz
Memory: 16384MB RAM

User DPI Setting: 120 DPI (125 percent)
System DPI Setting: 144 DPI (150 percent)

Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960
Dedicated Memory: 4062 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
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RE: windows 10 test install - 1/18/2018 3:30:28 PM   
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RE: windows 10 test install - 1/18/2018 3:30:37 PM   
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RE: windows 10 test install - 1/18/2018 3:30:41 PM   
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RE: windows 10 test install - 1/18/2018 3:30:45 PM   
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have done 3 test installs

one default, one to D but still default and one to D but not standard, eg D games, all no errors uncounted or found

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RE: windows 10 test install - 1/18/2018 3:30:49 PM   
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RE: windows 10 test install - 1/18/2018 3:30:53 PM   
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game works full screen and fits perfectly to me altered res as shown on the first post.

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RE: windows 10 test install - 1/18/2018 3:30:57 PM   
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RE: windows 10 test install - 1/18/2018 3:31:02 PM   
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as you can clearly see, worked right out of the box, install was quick and easy and this test pc didn't have an older version to uninstall first either, but did already have a few windows 10 alterations done

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RE: windows 10 test install - 1/18/2018 3:36:08 PM   
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my setup test rig has pre installed bits and bobs to make it more compatible with older games, these are my choices and settings etc




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RE: windows 10 test install - 1/18/2018 3:36:38 PM   
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also has a few files pre installed





plus DirectX 9.0c

almost all of above aren't needed for the game shown, i just show i load all files which are needed with a installer, so if it's included i install it, no matter if i already did the day before, just in case, and never as yet had an issue with one not working etc.

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RE: windows 10 test install - 1/18/2018 3:37:53 PM   
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and also i don't use some windows 10 stuff i find as junk





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RE: windows 10 test install - 1/18/2018 3:39:56 PM   
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Thanks Zak! Everything's good?

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RE: windows 10 test install - 1/18/2018 3:43:59 PM   
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everything is great, very smooth and fast game play and a breeze to use and have installed, thanks for the work and update and all the new mods and maps to play on

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RE: windows 10 test install - 1/18/2018 3:45:11 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: zakblood

everything is great, very smooth and fast game play and a breeze to use and have installed, thanks for the work and update and all the new mods and maps to play on



Glad to hear that zak!

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RE: windows 10 test install - 1/19/2018 12:23:56 AM   
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Hi, purchased the game today I've severe problem with lag and scrolling map. Choosing units are also difficult.

My system is Win 10 64 bit also:
Intel core processor i5-3210 2.50 ghz, 12 gb ram with 2 graphic cards in my laptop. HD graphics 4000 and Geforce Gt 620M.
Is it hardware related or win 10 is the problem?

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RE: windows 10 test install - 1/19/2018 4:01:28 AM   
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I am sorry to hear that, gamer78

Try this: Menu - Options - Auto Scroll OFF.

Now you get the scroll bars to move the map around. Does the problem persist still?

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RE: windows 10 test install - 1/19/2018 7:49:09 AM   
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In addition to what Crossroads suggests, you might also try, all in Windows Explorer:

  • Right click on the Middle East.exe, select "Create shortcut". This will create a new shortcut named "Middle East - Shortcut".
  • Right click on the shortcut, select "Properties".
  • In the General tab, change "Middle East - Shortcut" to "Middle East no3D", as you wish.
  • In the Shortcut tab, in the Target field, append -z0 after the program path as follows:




    Then launch the game using the new shortcut, not the usual EXE file.

    By using the -z0 option, it restricts you to playing the game in 2D only, no 3D. Half a loaf is better than none?

    Using no3D mode in this way is the only way I can successfully play the game on my under powered Linux netbook (using Wine). Although it sounds like your rig is more than capable, what Crossroads and I have suggested might help.

    Otherwise, it seems your system might be affected by video and mouse driver issues. Make sure your hardware drivers are up to date. Also, early versions of Windows 10 manifested these slowdown problems on a handful of systems (but not on most systems, most worked fine). Are you current in your Windows updates?

    Beyond the above, all we can suggest is to open a formal ticket with Matrix/Slitherine tech support. They are best equipped to assist with OS and system level issues.

    Good luck.

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    RE: windows 10 test install - 1/19/2018 7:58:26 AM   
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    for me make sure the game is using the card on not the onboard

    https://www.techadvisor.co.uk/how-to/pc-components/how-set-default-graphics-card-3612668/


    plus i'll also post a few other laptop tips now as well

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    RE: windows 10 test install - 1/19/2018 7:58:33 AM   
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    power tips




    run off mains, disable screensaver and all power saving parts and run of max power, not a standard laptop setup of cutting the cpu in half and running it off a power saving mode etc

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    RE: windows 10 test install - 1/19/2018 8:00:40 AM   
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    laptop again, this time hard drive settings plus a few others





    this one also applies if you have a desktop and have 2 hard drives, as windows 10 likes to save the tree's and will put your second hard drive, no matter what it is or does in a power saving mode in a given setting, not good if you like me has steam loaded on the D drive and not have the 0 in the drive letter, as when you try and use steam, first thing it does it power up and spins the drive,. even if your second drive is a SDD, it's still slower without using the 0 in the settings box

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    RE: windows 10 test install - 1/19/2018 8:01:28 AM   
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    Berto

    are there any references to other 'switches' for the game that can be used in the desktop shortcuts? Just curious... seems to make general troubleshooting easier.

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    RE: windows 10 test install - 1/19/2018 8:06:22 AM   
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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: gamer78

    Hi, purchased the game today I've severe problem with lag and scrolling map. Choosing units are also difficult.

    My system is Win 10 64 bit also:
    Intel core processor i5-3210 2.50 ghz, 12 gb ram with 2 graphic cards in my laptop. HD graphics 4000 and Geforce Gt 620M.
    Is it hardware related or win 10 is the problem?


    hardware i'm sorry to say and very common error with dual cpu / gpu combo boards / laptops

    each app and program needs telling manually which one to use, or disable the onboard, which works on some hardware and on others makes the laptop boot with an error, so it's a roll of the dice, for me, onboard is the slowest, and also makes a medium speed cpu slower and it's making a cpu to more work, add in the card, and the lag and scroll errors vanish like magic

    eg Step Three

    https://www.techadvisor.co.uk/how-to/pc-components/how-set-default-graphics-card-3612668/


    you only have to do it once, and then make sure each and every new game is done, and your sorted and won't have the issue as it will default to the game card and not onboard, good luck

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    RE: windows 10 test install - 1/19/2018 8:20:50 AM   
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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Oberst_Klink

    are there any references to other 'switches' for the game that can be used in the desktop shortcuts? Just curious... seems to make general troubleshooting easier.

    Many of the command-line switches are useful only in program development, are effectively useless for the normal player. But some you might find useful:

  • -#, or -z#. Runs the game (or editor) at the specified zoom level.
  • -L#, for example -L3. The # specifies the logging level. The default is -L1. But in order to make use of this, you would need special versions of the EXEs, which we will only provide in private on a case by case and as needed basis. This switch applies to all EXEs.
  • -W, game engine only. Runs the game in windowed mode.
  • -T, game engine only. Runs the specified scenario in auto-test, AI vs. AI mode. As in, for example: meengine.exe -W -T Tel_al_Ful_1967.scn
  • -X, game engine only. Forces NoEncryption. (NoEncryption is now the default for solo games, although not for PBEM. For PBEM, encryption always applies.)

    And still others. But they are useful only to us Devs.

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    RE: windows 10 test install - 1/19/2018 8:52:54 AM   
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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: berto


    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Oberst_Klink

    are there any references to other 'switches' for the game that can be used in the desktop shortcuts? Just curious... seems to make general troubleshooting easier.

    Many of the command-line switches are useful only in program development, are effectively useless for the normal player. But some you might find useful:

  • -#, or -z#. Runs the game (or editor) at the specified zoom level.
  • -L#, for example -L3. The # specifies the logging level. The default is -L1. But in order to make use of this, you would need special versions of the EXEs, which we will only provide in private on a case by case and as needed basis. This switch applies to all EXEs.
  • -W, game engine only. Runs the game in windowed mode.
  • -T, game engine only. Runs the specified scenario in auto-test, AI vs. AI mode. As in, for example: meengine.exe -W -T Tel_al_Ful_1967.scn
  • -X, game engine only. Forces NoEncryption. (NoEncryption is now the default for solo games, although not for PBEM. For PBEM, encryption always applies.)

    And still others. But they are useful only to us Devs.

  • Right-ho! Thanks! Much appreciated!

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    RE: windows 10 test install - 1/19/2018 9:15:09 AM   
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    Just a little off-topci note to add that encryption is always forced in LAN Play as well, in addition to PBEM. I am sure someone would have asked

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    RE: windows 10 test install - 1/19/2018 6:33:19 PM   
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    Thanks for the responses. Windows 10 is up to date, tested with both graphic cards (onboard and the other one) and disabled auto scroll previously. I managed to solve it when I turn off some windows services that I don't need. It is much faster now in both 2d and 3d.

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    RE: windows 10 test install - 1/19/2018 6:34:27 PM   
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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: gamer78

    Thanks for the responses. Windows 10 is up to date, tested with both graphic cards (onboard and the other one) and disabled auto scroll previously. I managed to solve it when I turn off some windows services that I don't need. It is much faster now in both 2d and 3d.


    Glad to hear you got it sorted! Happy gaming

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    RE: windows 10 test install - 1/19/2018 7:05:16 PM   
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    ... and disabled auto scroll previously...

    For even faster performance, we recommend toggling OFF Options > Smooth Scroll.

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