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Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/18/2018 9:30:09 AM   
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I read a recent post on Liberty or Death and it got me thinking about a game I played all the time called Panzers East. I looked at this website and it has thumbnail pictures of the old games. Wow, look at those top notch graphics!

https://www.myabandonware.com/browse/publisher/the-avalon-hill-game-company-1wy/page/4/

By the way, what emulator is easiest to use? I might want to try a game, wow, so many emulators, I just want to try some of the old war games.

I used to play this one as well, good SIM on middle east

https://www.myabandonware.com/game/conflict-uy



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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/18/2018 9:30:29 PM   
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Greetings demyansk,
Thanks for posting as it brings back memories of those old Avalon Hill games.
I played their Under Fire on my C-64. Reminded me of Classic Squad Leader board game and Up Front card game.

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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/18/2018 10:00:11 PM   
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Hey Rommel,

I had that game as well. I really liked those old games more than all the new stuff. I was just fascinated that I could play a war game against a computer anytime I wanted to. I must have put hours with SSG War in the East game. I sold the Commodore and some of the games for 100 bucks. I still have the SSG of MacArthur war, Rommel and a few others. Fun stuff.

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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/18/2018 10:13:06 PM   
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Go to www.lemon64.com they have emulators and a large selection of Commodore 64 games to download for free.

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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/19/2018 12:06:48 AM   
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Greetings demyansk and Auchinleck,
I subscribed to RUN 5 by SSG and played every C-64 title they put out. I loved War in the East and the original Battlefront. The Civil War battles were also excellent.
I also have used the Lemon C-64 package at times for a retro blast.
I fondly remember the Cinemaware title Rocket Ranger and trying to save the world from nazis invading America.
The SSI offerings were also great.

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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/19/2018 9:43:27 AM   
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Yes, fun stuff, I still have a bunch of run 5 magazines, I think, wow I better check. I know I have a bunch of the wargamer magazines I think by Novalogic? I'll have to check that as well. I used to like creating the scenarios from run5 and then playing them.

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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/20/2018 12:36:04 AM   
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I've been playing all these fancy new war and strategy games and recently went back to SSG's Battles in Italy. I was amazed at how good the AI is in that game. Much better than some we play today. Have we made so little progress in 13 years?

I will play Kharkov next. Only problem is the editor is tough to work with.

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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/20/2018 9:16:27 AM   
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Yes, sounds good, I would like to try the emulator but worried I might mess it up

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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/24/2018 10:55:33 AM   
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i love the old games from AH - i just got boxed version of Achtung Spitfire last year - i love it, could play its missions for hours, endlessly replayable especially on the advanced settings

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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/24/2018 3:29:25 PM   
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Isnīt Achtung Spitfire a game by "Clash of Arms Games"? A J.D Websters Fighting Wings Series.

Iam recently getting into some GDW (Game Design Warkshop) games. I bought "Sands of War" and the two first Assault Series modules, "Tactical Combat Europe 1985" and "Boots & Saddles", all three by Frank Chadwick. I find myself buying/discovering alot of old games lately and really having fun!

Hereīs my latest unboxings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0YG3KNESpI&t=28s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPQ7Rm07nWo&t=254s


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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/24/2018 6:56:01 PM   
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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/24/2018 9:38:07 PM   
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Oh I see, itīs the PC version. I have both from Old-Games.com (no CD needed). Something similar would be "The Few" (Steam).

Yes so Iam aware that some old Battlefront soft had this issue with copy protection on newer gear.

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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/25/2018 12:58:18 AM   
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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/25/2018 9:01:17 AM   
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I was looking at the files I have saved on my HD from when I paid for a month of access to Old-Games. Not that I saved alot of them because I came to the same conclusion, craked versions among some abandone-ware. Actually I only Installed "Start Trek Fleet Command Orion Pirates", yeah the name is a coincidence Then I just tried the rest of interest, OTR worked as a DOS-Box Emu so there was no need to install that, but none of them stayed on my HD anyway. I have/or had a working DOS-Box of FC2 on my HD somewhere..

Hopefully something "new" will hit our PCīs with this gender soon

Meanwhile I try to play GGīs Eagle Day to Bombing the Reich, but even with the recent mod itīs very slow, it reminds me of when I used to use a typewriter

Have you tried the "WarBirds" series modules? Tabletop but probably the best air combat simulation for a boardgame out there today (Tim Simo is in the group with us too). Steve is working on a new module, and just recently put up the new WB-WWII v1.1 Beta rules which fix some minor issues with the original rules. Itīs Print and Play, but even just to see the mechanics of the game itīs worth it. If you do decide to print, it will cost you as if you bought a new boxed game (thereīs alot in there) be advised!

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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/25/2018 9:59:04 AM   
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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/25/2018 11:43:18 AM   
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Starfleet Command i see mentioned -ihave just been trying to get SFC 2 and SFC 3 running on windows 10 - i can get sfc 2 working for a few minutes but sfc3 sadly not at all.

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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/25/2018 11:46:12 AM   
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Ohhh, your missing some fun here....

I think your gonna love it!
Warbirds GS:
http://www.warbirdsgs.com/Home.html

So far Steve has put out WW-I (Canvas Falcons) and WW-II (Blitzkrieg) modules, I think he is working on the Forgoten Wars module now. I only have the Blitzkrieg module. You also get a Vassal module with it. Comms with the group are done via Yahoo, files via Dropbox/Onedrive. Itīs a one-man-team (donīt we seem to love that ).

I didnt print it out at home, I brought the files to my local printing shop on a CD, because thereīs quite alot of charts/manuals in the WBGS.

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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/25/2018 11:51:11 AM   
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I kind of forgot it because Iam not playing it anymore, but here are some great mods (active community) for SFC2-3...

http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php

This is the mod I used for SFCOP:
https://hotandspicyforums.com/starfleet-command-orion-pirates-2500-2563-hd-patch-t18934.html

Works just fine with W10x64.

This is for SFCOP...

In your original install, you need to mod the sfc.ini file as follows:
- Change the "Asyn=1" to Async=0

Once you install the above mod, go back to your sfc.ini file and mod as follows:

(3D)Lowres=? in other words, add the nš that maches your resolution...

0 = 800 x 600
1 = 640 x 480
2 = 1280 x 800
3 = 1366 x 768
4 = 1440 x 900
5 = 1600 x 900
6 = 1920 x 1080


Lastley change your "StarFleetOP.exe by choosing "right-click .exe Icon" and switch to 16 bit colors compatibility.

Result:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYotreqm3SA

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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/26/2018 12:58:44 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Red2112

I kind of forgot it because Iam not playing it anymore, but there is a great mods (active community) for SFC2-3...

http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php

This is the mod I used for SFCOP:
https://hotandspicyforums.com/starfleet-command-orion-pirates-2500-2563-hd-patch-t18934.html

Works just fine with W10x64.

This is for SFCOP...

In your original install, you need to mod the sfc.ini file as follows:
- Change the "Asyn=1" to Async=0

Once you install the above mod, go back to your sfc.ini file and mod as follows:

(3D)Lowres=? in other words, add the nš that maches your resolution...

0 = 800 x 600
1 = 640 x 480
2 = 1280 x 800
3 = 1366 x 768
4 = 1440 x 900
5 = 1600 x 900
6 = 1920 x 1080


Lastley mod your "StarFleetOP.exe by choosing "right-click .exe Icon" and comp to 16 bit Colors.

Result:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYotreqm3SA

Have fun!

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ah so if i add teh Orion Pirates expansion to SFC 2 then that may help to get it working properly on windos 1064bit which is what i have? I will have to look for a copy of Orion Pirates.

My other thought will be to just have a Virtual pc setup with XP running on it and play it through that (which is what i may need to do for SSI's Fighting Steel too)

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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/26/2018 9:11:18 AM   
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Orion Pirates is a game on itīs own, that I now of. I worked just fine on my Windows 10x64bit with the mentioned mod and tweaking. You can get Orion Pirates at Old-Games, thatīs where I got mine.

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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/27/2018 3:34:51 AM   
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thanks for that info - i just got Orion Pirates and tried it out yesterday without the mod and it seemed to be working better than SFC2, i have added the mod now and your instructions so hopefully that fixes the problem i was getting with the UI in the game being too small for the screen and stuck in the top left corner.

I incidentally as i like to be a purist on some old games, found a 20 boxed copy of Orion Pirates too so i will have a legit copy at hand also for my collecion

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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/27/2018 8:04:57 AM   
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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/27/2018 9:04:41 AM   
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Scotty, reverse warp factor 9.6!!!

I Imagen you are all familiar with "Stage 9" Project...
http://stage-9.co.uk/

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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/27/2018 9:07:46 AM   
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quote:

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Orion Pirates is a game on itīs own, that I now of. I worked just fine on my Windows 10x64bit with the mentioned mod and tweaking. You can get Orion Pirates at Old-Games, thatīs where I got mine.



okay well it seems the mod is not ideal - i installed it like you said and now Orion Pirates is just a black screen - it briefly says loading but then it just goes black and nothing happens

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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/27/2018 9:42:22 AM   
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Hmm, strange it worked for me. Or maybe I missed something, do check the HD mod thread just in case. Did you tweak the sc2.ini file as I wrote?

Some of the games in Old-Games are not workable on W10 right of the bat (unless it says so), so you do need to find solutions on your own. I think SFC2 was one of them. GOG has the first SFC Gold but that too seems to have some issues with W10, and/or it just plain looks awful in the graphics dept.!

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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/27/2018 9:59:18 AM   
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This is how your root file should look...



EXE Icon...



SCFOP .ini file tweaks...





Works just fine for me...



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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/27/2018 8:50:31 PM   
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You might need to install the "SFCOP 2500-2563" patch. If you donīt have it let me know...

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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/27/2018 10:08:38 PM   
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thanks i am starting from scratch again , i did everything you said but no go- something odd with that SFCOP 2500-2563 patch was that after install it removed the uninstall files for the game so i was actually unable to uninstall it

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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/28/2018 3:27:23 AM   
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Man, you fellows are old! I haven't seen references to this kind of stuff for a long time, er, I mean, I haven't read about this in any history books recently. Not that I would know anything about it all first hand. I mean, I am far too young for that of course.

Cool picture of the Doomsday Machine, or whatever that might have been called. If I'm right, it's just a lucky guess. I remember perfecting my tactics to destroy that thing in the original SFB board game.

What I mean to say is that I read how it could be done somewhere, and no I don't remember where.

Just sayin'....

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RE: Old games from Avalon Hill - 1/28/2018 6:45:56 PM   
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