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Bf110 series - 12/12/2017 11:10:01 PM   
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Why do variants C1, C4 and F2 have identical stats? Should the E2 variant really have such a low fighter vs. fighter value (0) compared to the C1?
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RE: Bf110 series - 12/17/2017 5:57:22 AM   
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For the Messerschmitt Bf110, we have 5 models: 3 Fighters and 2 Bombers.

The Bf 110 Fighters :



The only difference between these three models is the Movement Points but because of the very high values it has no influence in practice.
In the first version of the game, the air units had no values so high.

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RE: Bf110 series - 12/17/2017 6:10:39 AM   
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The Bf 110 Bombers :



The Bf 110 Bombers have an Attack value against Aircraft = 0.
If you look for the other bombers, they have all this Attack value against Aircraft equal to 0.



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RE: Bf110 series - 12/19/2017 3:28:39 PM   
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Hi terminator,

The Bf 110 fighters also have ground attack ability and are quite good in that role; better than Bf 109 but not as good as real bombers. You will see two Bf 110 fighter-bombers in my Smolensk AAR when it comes out, I guess early in January.

Attack value 0 for bombers means that a bomber cannot chase and attack fighters, it can only fire back if attacked by them. This was also a situation in some Panzer General II mods where bombers like Ju 88, He 111 and Stuka can only defend themselves if attacked but bomber version of Fw 190 can also attack fighters because it has attack value. The editor of Panzer General II allows to enable or disable ''Air Attack'' and set values for it. I guess few people actively play Panzer General II these days but the mods are still available and maybe some ideas can be borrowed from them. They also had several Bf 110 versions with different attack values.

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RE: Bf110 series - 12/19/2017 9:52:05 PM   
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Brings up the question that a F-2 variant should have (and does regarding range and speed) better specks than the older C1 variant that costs the same amount of resource points....

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RE: Bf110 series - 7/23/2019 6:55:41 AM   
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Hi folks,

so i took a look into the values and indeed some needed adjustment. Here is what will find its way into Germany at War 1.09:

- all Bf110 fighter versions (adjustemnt towards bomber versions):
attack on canons -3
- Bf110 C4 due to better armor and a better mg (MFF/M)
attack air +1
defence infantry +1
defence air +2
costs +10
- Bf110 F2 due to better armor and based on C4:
attack air +1
defence tanks +1
defence infantry +2
defence canon +2
defence ships +2
defence air +3
range +10
costs +40
available to buy 1.1.42 - 31.12.42

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