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Attached the Tutorial '41 folder (goes into \Documents\My Games\The Operational Art of War IV\Graphics Override), the .SCE (Can be dumped at \Documents\My Games\The Operational Art of War IV\Scenarios\TUTORIALS). The slides I made for 3.4, but they should give beginners some visual help and guidance about how to utilise and attack with a German Panzer Division of 1941. It's non-historical, the OpFor are Yugoslav border guard units and an Infantry Division. Time is short, and the German player will be pressed hard to reach at least 2/3 of the objectives in time, without any major losses.

Because of the slides, I had to dump the .ZIP into Dropbox -

https://www.dropbox.com/s/f6ewongmjq389bb/Tutorial%20%2741.zip?dl=0

Feedback appreciated!

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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/20/2017 5:48:49 PM   
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This is how I got into TOAW3 back in the days. Played this a few times, made sure I understood everything. After that, the next tutorial I did, Kasserine Pass likely, was a walk in the park.

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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/20/2017 6:31:58 PM   
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This is how I got into TOAW3 back in the days. Played this a few times, made sure I understood everything. After that, the next tutorial I did, Kasserine Pass likely, was a walk in the park.

Vielen Danke, Herr Oberst

Really? The Tutorial '41 for TOAW III? Smashing! I am quite pleased that it was in fact useful! I might even be tempted to create a few more slides (for TOAW IV ofc), e.g. to focus on bridging, ferry, railroad repair and (anti-)partisan warfare, airdrops and so on :)

Again, thanks for the feedback!

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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/20/2017 7:02:22 PM   
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The slides were really why I picked it at the time, they were most helpful.

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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/20/2017 9:40:50 PM   
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Thank you for the slides ...going to try your tutorial mission...would like to see more of these slides :-)

Viele Grüße!

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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/20/2017 9:59:16 PM   
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Thank you for the slides ...going to try your tutorial mission...would like to see more of these slides :-)

Viele Grüße!

Awww'roite! I guess I will do some tomorrow, same setting, but well... rail repair, crossing a river, blowing/repairing bridges and perhaps some guerillas or even partisan attacks...

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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/20/2017 10:27:58 PM   
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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/20/2017 10:31:18 PM   
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i'll be giving this a spin, thank you sir. look forward to more

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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/21/2017 11:49:16 AM   
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Am I doing something wrong, or has something changed?

Turn 2 -- every available unit attacked the first border guard as illustrated in the slides -- probability of success very low, expected losses very heavy -- failed to do anything and losses on both sides quite light.

Turn 3 -- repeat the attack -- probability of success very low, expected losses very heavy -- used 3 rounds, very very light losses -- no effect -- repeat it again -- same thing.


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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/21/2017 1:38:50 PM   
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Am I doing something wrong, or has something changed?

Turn 2 -- every available unit attacked the first border guard as illustrated in the slides -- probability of success very low, expected losses very heavy -- failed to do anything and losses on both sides quite light.

Turn 3 -- repeat the attack -- probability of success very low, expected losses very heavy -- used 3 rounds, very very light losses -- no effect -- repeat it again -- same thing.
No, you're doing nothing wrong. Remember, the slides were made back in the days for 3.4; I am in the process of updating it to TOAWV IV, incl. equipment and TOE&E modifications. However, the slides should give you an overview of the basics, especially what equipment or unit is best suited for the job.

Please, be patient; I'll post the new version (the .SCE file) soon; as well as a slide for each possible turn with as much information I can pack in.

Thanks!

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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/21/2017 4:45:32 PM   
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OK, as promised an updated version with some surprising features... (they even surprised me!)
+ Added Fast Horse Teams to the border guards; initially they're 0/27, but because there are replacements available, they will be distributed (with priority!) to the units.
+ Border guards also got the special guerilla capabilities (be in for a nasty surprise)
16.1.2. Guerrilla unit notes
§ Guerrilla units always Disengage without
cost, as Special Forces units do.
§ Guerrilla units are very difficult to spot,
particularly by Air or Helicopter units.
§ Guerrilla units will not change the ownership
of locations while moving. Only after
Movement will Guerrilla units change the
ownership of the location they occupy.
§ Guerrilla unit Attack and Defense strengths
are doubled when attacking from locations that
were enemy-owned at the beginning of the Turn.
Guerrilla units always draw at least “normal”
supply, regardless of whether their location
is friendly-supplied or not. If a higher level of
Supply is available, the unit benefits normally.

That fact alone caused me in my tests some serious trouble, because there was no manpower available to deal with them. Recon is the key! In fact... it's better to wait for at least 2/3rd of 11th Panzer to arrive before you should even attempt to repair the broken bridge (Pz.Pio.Abt.209 might come in handy) and cross it in force. I made the mistake to just dash ahead and in the process suffered more than 40%(!!!) losses; despite a 'victory'.
+ Added French 47mm Pak to the units of Inf.Rgt.66; alas I managed only to lose 6 tanks.
+ Added a Staffel (squadron) of He-51 planes for the Germans in order to use them as reece planes (another airfield was added, too. If one moves the air units back and forth the airfields they should, in some cases, spot enemy units in their flight path).
+ Added more pesky behind enemy lines surprises via event.

What next?
+ Slides, of course; most likely 1 per turn, or perhaps 2 per turn up to the point when the border guards have been dealt with. Like with the v3.4 slides, I will always refer to the manual for easy reference. I don't want to compress too much information into them. Alas, I am open for suggestions; PM me or reply here.
+ Because of the pesky surprises (I didn't anticipate at all!), I guess adding some security detachments (via event or as reinforcements) for the Germans. AFAIR, security units, specially the dreaded OrPo/security battalion and other RHG (rear group area) MP units, have special abilities in dealing with those guerillas/partisans.
+ Focus on the importance of the supply net, lines of communication, river crossings, bridge destruction/repair, ferry operations, traffic control, in short - stuff you NEED to know in order to actually do the job.

+++ The updated version, see my latest post +++
Unzip it into the Documents\My Games\The Operational Art of War IV\Scenarios\TUTORIALS folder and... well, see if you can do better than me! Feedback, +/- is kindly requested.

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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/21/2017 7:07:54 PM   
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Hi Oberst Klink,

i have an issue with invisible units...e.g after repairing the bridge i tried to move into hex 12,9...but instead of showing me the movement path the crosshair appeared...or are guerilla units maybe invisible?

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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/21/2017 7:24:50 PM   
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Hi Oberst Klink,

i have an issue with invisible units...e.g after repairing the bridge i tried to move into hex 12,9...but instead of showing me the movement path the crosshair appeared...or are guerilla units maybe invisible?

That is one thing that surprised me as well. I am not sure if it's WAD (Works As Designed); but yes... I guess the Guerilla special capability, plus the sh*tty weather mind you, seems to hide the pesky partisans! In a way it's kinda... well, (un)kewl; and I tried in my test runs to discover them... to no avail; perhaps we need some special 'partisan hunters' after all. Anyway, try your best to pin them down and surround them. That's the only way to make sure they will disappear for good it seems.
Anyway, appreciate your feedback mate! Hope you still have fun testing it.

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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/21/2017 9:26:38 PM   
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Partisans in general seem to a very tough nut to crack (not to mention to squash!) *sigh*

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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/22/2017 9:24:15 AM   
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Recommended supplemental reading - A very detailed but also comprehensive introduction of the (U)ser (I)nterface by Bob Cross. That will enable me to skip most of the stuff and focus on how to make use of the units and put more flesh on the bones regarding units capabilities, combined arms and so on.

http://www.matrixgames.com/amazon/PDF/TOAW_IV_USER_INTERFACE_GUIDE.pdf

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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/22/2017 6:22:29 PM   
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After some minor changes it should be possible, to annihilate the opposing forces...

I am pleased with the setup and AI and general operational plan; I shall shortly provide the slides for the update (as well as the adjusted .SCE). So, sty tuned and thanks for your patience. I do require general feedback though; it can be outright hostile or comforting... It's my duty (in a way) to serve you guys to have lotsa fun to get into TOAW IV.

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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/22/2017 9:26:19 PM   
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..looking forward for the slides and the scenario......still trying to figure out a good way to win this scenario..

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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/22/2017 10:48:40 PM   
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Great, now we're going to have all these sneaky scenario designers using guerrillas and partisans against us

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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/23/2017 3:03:09 PM   
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OK, there we are peeps. I run a few more tests, AI vs. AI and the German AI was able to score a victory, as it should be, no doubt. Alas, I wasn't as good as the AI and struggled in the latest version. Nether the less, attached the latest version, ready to be used as base for the slides. I either intend to post slide by slide here, as the actual game progresses, or dump a series of 2-4 slides every day.

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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/23/2017 4:58:14 PM   
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OK... 1st.

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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/23/2017 4:59:05 PM   
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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/23/2017 5:01:50 PM   
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3rd...

Now I need feedback about the content, i.e. if it's not an overkill of information, etc.
I will try keeping it as simple, but as entertaining as possible.

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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/23/2017 5:43:50 PM   
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3rd...

Now I need feedback about the content, i.e. if it's not an overkill of information, etc.
I will try keeping it as simple, but as entertaining as possible.

Klink, Oberst





I think it's great. That's not an overkill.

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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/23/2017 5:57:36 PM   
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3rd...

Now I need feedback about the content, i.e. if it's not an overkill of information, etc.
I will try keeping it as simple, but as entertaining as possible.

Klink, Oberst



I think it's great. That's not an overkill.


+1 from me too. This is a fun little scenario, not too easy, not too hard either. I need to revisit it again with the new game version


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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/23/2017 6:09:47 PM   
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Aw'rite peeps! Thee kind words of encouragement might create another 1-2 slides tonite; after all; it's Cologne-Arsenal and Ath.Bilbao-Hertha Belin playing right now... oh, well. Will do. Stay tuned.

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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/23/2017 6:46:51 PM   
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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/23/2017 6:48:15 PM   
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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/24/2017 3:08:50 PM   
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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/24/2017 3:09:51 PM   
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RE: Tutorial '41 - Including 1st Step Slides [TOAW 3.4] - 11/24/2017 3:11:53 PM   
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Sorry for some of the typos, but can't get rid of them once the slides were saved ;)

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