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RE: Intel Monkey 1.0 Pre-Beta - 1/23/2020 2:02:42 PM   
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I am pleased to report that I finally muddled though (mostly. I carefully went through the bottom-row buttons from right to left, green background returns started to pop up, and well, there it is. I am still not getting returns on the last three upper buttons (Group, LCU, and Ships info). Perhaps these take time to flesh out? I am playing IJ, one day turns, just finished my 12-11-41. I believe that there will be things here that will become more useful to me overtime. I kept archives from 12-8 on, but it is still a very small date range. Thank you for this, and I look forward to taking full advantage of it.

I have tracker on a separate laptop so I can view them while in game, with a maximized games screen. I bet I could multi-screen them, but due to complications with my flight sim on my PC, I need the laptop to do any flying. I guess its a carpenter's solution to a digital problem...

THANK YOU!

OK, I have to ask a couple of questions for clarifications. You wrote "I carefully went through the bottom-row buttons from right to left, green background returns started to pop up, and well, there it is." I don't understand what you mean by the phrase "green background returns", could you explain that?

With regard to this: "I am still not getting returns on the last three upper buttons (Group, LCU, and Ships info)." Those are static reports that show some of the data loaded from the scenario files (not from turn files). When you say "not getting returns", can you describe that a bit? Do you mean that when you click on those buttons nothing at all happens? Or something else?

To give you a little background, when you load the scenario files, the data which Intel Monkey uses is stored in Intel Monkey's database. That is what gets displayed in the three reports you mentioned (and with 'Aircraft Info' and 'Bases Info'). And since you are required to load the scenario data before Intel Monkey will even allow you to load any turns, all 5 of those 'Info' reports should be the first things to work, and they have the same data throughout the game. They are there so you can look up some scenario information, searching and sorting as you like. Those database records are also used to make parsing the turn reports more accurate, such as looking up if something really is a ship name, or an air group name, and so on.

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RE: Intel Monkey 1.0 Pre-Beta - 1/23/2020 5:27:19 PM   
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May be a dumb question but where/what is witploadAE?

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RE: Intel Monkey 1.0 Pre-Beta - 1/23/2020 11:00:29 PM   
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May be a dumb question but where/what is witploadAE?

Look here for where. https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4372718

Read the Intel Monkey doc to see how you need witploadAE. https://sites.google.com/view/staffmonkeys/intel-monkey

Pardon me, but I've typed the same answer a bunch of times (including in email). Let me know if this does it for you.

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RE: Intel Monkey 1.0 Pre-Beta - 1/24/2020 5:00:52 AM   
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RE: Intel Monkey 1.0 Pre-Beta - 1/24/2020 5:58:43 PM   
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Thanks for following up!

1st - I went through 'configuration' and carefully browsed to the appropriate file locations to select them. I think I still may not have the correct location entered for the 'AE home' button because of the info button issues. Currently it points at 'C:\matirx games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition' which is where my game is, perhaps it should be looking at something more specific? When I go to database maintenance and click any of the 'check' buttons (except check ALL) It returns 'database meets current specs' on a green background. Seemed like a good thing to me.

2nd - as above the 'info' buttons each return 'no records to display'. I take that back. Aircraft info appears to display a full report. The others are still as above.

3rd - for my purposes at least, it seems I need these five buttons the least. Especially since I am also running Tracker. I do believe the monkey will begin to shine more as it's database grows. One day I must explore how to filter and sort...

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RE: Intel Monkey 1.0 Pre-Beta - 1/24/2020 6:41:54 PM   
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OK - a mixed bag based on what you report here. My comments in a different color so they stand out.
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ORIGINAL: dasboot1960

Thanks for following up!

1st - I went through 'configuration' and carefully browsed to the appropriate file locations to select them. I think I still may not have the correct location entered for the 'AE home' button because of the info button issues. Currently it points at 'C:\matirx games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition' which is where my game is, perhaps it should be looking at something more specific?This looks normal. People sometimes have multiple copies of AE installed to support multiple PBM's, but what you note here is IIRC the normal installation place. When I go to database maintenance and click any of the 'check' buttons (except check ALL) It returns 'database meets current specs' on a green background. Seemed like a good thing to me. That's good. If you are trying to solve this by re-loading the scenario files then use this menu to make all new database files.

2nd - as above the 'info' buttons each return 'no records to display'. I take that back. Aircraft info appears to display a full report. The others are still as above. Very strange. Are you sure the config item for the "SCEN' folder is really pointing to the correct place? How about the config item for "Scenario", does it really have the correct three-digit number? Is the config item for "witploadAE.exe" really pointing to the location of the correct version of witploadAE.exe? You should see something in each of the 5 'Info' reports. If you don't it means there is something wrong with the scenario files or they did not load correctly. Do you get any errors when you "Get Scenario Data"?

3rd - for my purposes at least, it seems I need these five buttons the least. Especially since I am also running Tracker. I do believe the monkey will begin to shine more as it's database grows. One day I must explore how to filter and sort...

At the moment Intel Monkey is not interfacing with Tracker. Also, because Intel Monkey reads the report files from the /archive sub-folder, you can always start from scratch with a new Intel Monkey database and load all the turns without missing anything (as long as you didn't delete any report files from /archive).


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RE: Intel Monkey 1.0 Pre-Beta - 1/24/2020 6:43:15 PM   
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Again, witploadAE.exe: https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4372718

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RE: Intel Monkey 1.0 Pre-Beta - 1/24/2020 8:18:33 PM   
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Hey WITPQS, if that colour is your idea of making it stand out.........

I am constantly amazed by how little credit this gets from players, it is brilliant.....


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RE: Intel Monkey 1.0 Pre-Beta - 1/24/2020 8:25:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RogerJNeilson

Hey WITPQS, if that colour is your idea of making it stand out.........

I am constantly amazed by how little credit this gets from players, it is brilliant.....


Roger

You know, I've got my browser in Dark Mode. Let me try that again for those who are not Darth Vader fans!

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OK - a mixed bag based on what you report here. My comments in a different color so they stand out.
quote:

ORIGINAL: dasboot1960

Thanks for following up!

1st - I went through 'configuration' and carefully browsed to the appropriate file locations to select them. I think I still may not have the correct location entered for the 'AE home' button because of the info button issues. Currently it points at 'C:\matirx games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition' which is where my game is, perhaps it should be looking at something more specific? This looks normal. People sometimes have multiple copies of AE installed to support multiple PBM's, but what you note here is IIRC the normal installation place. When I go to database maintenance and click any of the 'check' buttons (except check ALL) It returns 'database meets current specs' on a green background. Seemed like a good thing to me. That's good. If you are trying to solve this by re-loading the scenario files then use this menu to make all new database files.

2nd - as above the 'info' buttons each return 'no records to display'. I take that back. Aircraft info appears to display a full report. The others are still as above. Very strange. Are you sure the config item for the "SCEN' folder is really pointing to the correct place? How about the config item for "Scenario", does it really have the correct three-digit number? Is the config item for "witploadAE.exe" really pointing to the location of the correct version of witploadAE.exe? You should see something in each of the 5 'Info' reports. If you don't it means there is something wrong with the scenario files or they did not load correctly. Do you get any errors when you "Get Scenario Data"?

3rd - for my purposes at least, it seems I need these five buttons the least. Especially since I am also running Tracker. I do believe the monkey will begin to shine more as it's database grows. One day I must explore how to filter and sort...

At the moment Intel Monkey is not interfacing with Tracker. Also, because Intel Monkey reads the report files from the /archive sub-folder, you can always start from scratch with a new Intel Monkey database and load all the turns without missing anything (as long as you didn't delete any report files from /archive).


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RE: Intel Monkey 1.0 Pre-Beta - 1/24/2020 8:28:36 PM   
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Thanks, Roger!

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RE: Intel Monkey 1.0 Pre-Beta - 1/24/2020 9:00:02 PM   
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Thanks indeed Roger! That yellow was killing me!

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RE: Intel Monkey 1.0 Pre-Beta - 1/24/2020 11:19:04 PM   
witpqs


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Thanks indeed Roger! That yellow was killing me!

Any time that happens on a web page or in a document, just use your mouse to select the text you are interested in (control-a to select all usually works too) and the selected text shows in a different color. Usually does the trick.

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