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Shipping Report Bafflement - 11/5/2017 10:55:36 PM   
dereck


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I'm trying to keep track of my shipping and the losses but the report is very confusing for amphib ships.

For my turn 3 and turn 4 here are the values from the after-turn reports:

1943-07-17 (turn 3)
4 Amphib TF still at sea for Sicily invasion
Cargo Ships Available - 864
Cargo Ships in Use - 1056 1920 (-112)
Troop Ships Available - 166
Troop Ships Used - 0
Amphib Troop Ships Lost - 4 (total 11) <----- What does this TOTAL represent??
Amphib Cargo Ships Lost - 2 (total 62)
Amphib Troop Ships in Use - 87 <-- if this is the ships in use how many TOTAL do I have???
Amphib Cargo Ships in Use - 89

1943-07-24 (turn 4)
0 Amphib TF at sea. All in port.
Cargo Ships Available - 720
Cargo Ships in Use - 1221 1941 (+21)
Troop Ships Available - 196
Troop Ships Used - 0
Amphib Troop Ships Lost - 4 (total 11)
Amphib Cargo Ships Lost - 2 (total 100)
Amphib Troop Ships in Use - 61
Amphib Cargo Ships in Use - 60

Could someone explain to me what the Amphib ship columns mean? If the total in paranthesis are my total ships I may not be in bad shape ... if it is the total ships lost then I'm in trouble. And if they aren't the total ships I have, how do I find out that total?

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RE: Shipping Report Bafflement - 11/6/2017 9:18:26 AM   
EddyBear81

 

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There are two different uses for Ships, especially cargo ships :

- To carry freight for resupply purposes (logistics) - this is the first number of "Cargo Ship in use"
- To support your Amphib tasks forces when they are at sea - this is the "Amphib Cargo Ship in use"

=> They both take from the same "Cargo Ship Pool"


Hence you have the following (for Turn 3 example):

- 1920 ships in total - this is the second number of "Cargo Ship in use"
- 1056 of which are used to carry freight around - first number of Cargo Ship in use"
- 89 of which are used in your Amphib TFs at sea


Regarding losses : you lost 2 Cargo Ships during last turn, for a total of 62 since the beginning of the game


All things considered, you should be fine, with a little less than 800 cargo ship in reserve.

Watch out for losses, but usually, it's not a big issue, except for major Invasions (you may be constrained by your troop ships - both for initial landings and then for the troop buildup)

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RE: Shipping Report Bafflement - 11/6/2017 8:04:02 PM   
dereck


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I'm sorry but the numbers just don't add up.

Here is the results from my first 10 turns. Each turn it says I've lost 4 amphib troop ships and 2 amphib cargo ships so, by turn 10 I should have lost a total of 40 amphib troop and 20 amphib cargo ships. HOWEVER, the total from turn 10 says toal 18 amphib troop and 308 amphib cargo.

Plus,on turn 2 i had 0 amphib cargo ships lost and total 9. On Turn 2 it said 2 amphib cargo ships lost and total 62 so your explanation just doesn't fit the math (there is 60 ships unaccounted for just this turn alone).

The only thing I can figure out is that the amphib lost is the total I've lost to date and the total is how many I currently have.

See the entire turn results below.

1943-07-10 (turn 2)
6 Amphib TF at sea for Sicily invasion
Cargo Ships Available - 681
Cargo Ships in Use - 1351 2032
Troop Ships Available - 259
Troop Ships Used - 0
Amphib Troop Ships Lost - 0 (total 1)
Amphib Cargo Ships Lost - 0 (total 9)
Amphib Troop Ships in Use - 0
Amphib Cargo Ships in Use - 0

1943-07-17 (turn 3)
4 Amphib TF still at sea for Sicily invasion
Cargo Ships Available - 864
Cargo Ships in Use - 1056 1920 (-112)
Troop Ships Available - 166
Troop Ships Used - 0
Amphib Troop Ships Lost - 4 (total 11)
Amphib Cargo Ships Lost - 2 (total 62)
Amphib Troop Ships in Use - 87
Amphib Cargo Ships in Use - 89

1943-07-24 (turn 4)
0 Amphib TF at sea. All in port.
Cargo Ships Available - 720
Cargo Ships in Use - 1221 1941 (+21)
Troop Ships Available - 196
Troop Ships Used - 0
Amphib Troop Ships Lost - 4 (total 11)
Amphib Cargo Ships Lost - 2 (total 100)
Amphib Troop Ships in Use - 61
Amphib Cargo Ships in Use - 60

1943-07-31 (turn 5)
0 Amphib TF at sea. All in port.
Cargo Ships Available - 901
Cargo Ships in Use - 1096 1997 (+56)
Troop Ships Available - 261
Troop Ships Used - 0
Amphib Troop Ships Lost - 4 (total 11)
Amphib Cargo Ships Lost - 2 (total 134)
Amphib Troop Ships in Use - 0
Amphib Cargo Ships in Use - 0

1943-08-07 (turn 6)
0 Amphib TF at sea. All in port.
Cargo Ships Available - 810
Cargo Ships in Use - 1179 1989 (-8)
Troop Ships Available - 263
Troop Ships Used - 0
Amphib Troop Ships Lost - 4 (total 13)
Amphib Cargo Ships Lost - 2 (total 172)
Amphib Troop Ships in Use - 0
Amphib Cargo Ships in Use - 0

1943-08-14 (turn 7)
0 Amphib TF at sea. All in port.
Cargo Ships Available - 788
Cargo Ships in Use - 1205 1993 (+4)
Troop Ships Available - 267
Troop Ships Used - 0
Amphib Troop Ships Lost - 4 (total 13)
Amphib Cargo Ships Lost - 2 (total 198)
Amphib Troop Ships in Use - 0
Amphib Cargo Ships in Use - 0

1943-08-21 (turn 8)
0 Amphib TF at sea. All in port.
Cargo Ships Available - 1029
Cargo Ships in Use - 959 1988 (-5)
Troop Ships Available - 269
Troop Ships Used - 0
Amphib Troop Ships Lost - 4 (total 15)
Amphib Cargo Ships Lost - 2 (total 233)
Amphib Troop Ships in Use - 0
Amphib Cargo Ships in Use - 0

1943-08-28 (turn 9)
0 Amphib TF at sea. All in port.
Cargo Ships Available - 1207
Cargo Ships in Use - 766 1973 (-15)
Troop Ships Available - 272
Troop Ships Used - 0
Amphib Troop Ships Lost - 4 (total 16)
Amphib Cargo Ships Lost - 2 (total 278)
Amphib Troop Ships in Use - 0
Amphib Cargo Ships in Use - 0

1943-09-04 (turn 10)
0 Amphib TF at sea. All in port.
Cargo Ships Available - 1382
Cargo Ships in Use - 591 1973 (0)
Troop Ships Available - 274
Troop Ships Used - 0
Amphib Troop Ships Lost - 4 (total 18)
Amphib Cargo Ships Lost - 2 (total 308)
Amphib Troop Ships in Use - 0
Amphib Cargo Ships in Use - 0






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USS Midway CV-41 (1981-1984)
Whidbey Island, WA (1984-1986)
Naval Reserve (1986-1992)

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RE: Shipping Report Bafflement - anyone?? - 11/11/2017 7:16:59 PM   
dereck


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bump -- can anyone from Matrix explain this to me?

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