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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/9/2017 8:37:11 PM   
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Whatever you land in Port Blair is going to get well and truly hammered by Japanese Air. Plus it will be a cast iron PIA to supply. It can be held, but it will be expensive. It's a major thorn in the Japanese side if you do hold it, but it's hard. Plan accordingly.

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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/9/2017 9:02:13 PM   
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ANYTHING that goes into Sumatra should be written off. If you get something out then that is great but it is better to plan on loosing ANYTHING that goes into Sumatra.

I like it when the Allied player tries to hold Port Blair...


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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/10/2017 12:18:52 AM   
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I normally but a British Division in Palmebang it denies it to the Japanese for normally 6+ months and ruins the oil wells once he takes it after a protracted battle. Downside, you lose a very good British Division and it is hard the rebuild since the British don't have a lot of squads per turn showing up as replacements, and the lowered experience.

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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/10/2017 12:30:36 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bif1961

I normally but a British Division in Palmebang it denies it to the Japanese for normally 6+ months and ruins the oil wells once he takes it after a protracted battle. Downside, you lose a very good British Division and it is hard the rebuild since the British don't have a lot of squads per turn showing up as replacements, and the lowered experience.


On just that possibility, I get there to TAKE Palembang BEFORE substantial troops can be brought in!

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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/10/2017 1:23:07 AM   
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Yeah, think about things as the normal IJ player you are. You should know exactly what you like to see and what you hate to see as the IJ. The latter items are what you want to do.


Things like
Take Adak early and reinforce it big. Force the IJ to send the KB up there if they want it.
Reinforce Diego Garcia. Again, goal is to force the IJ to commit the KB way out there.
Create a blood bath in Burma. Force action there with Indian troops ...
etc

Right? Get the KB sailing across the globe ... stalemates that eat up supply. things like that. Its easier switching (I think) from IJ to allies as a player because the IJ holds the initiative early and you know exactly what can slow that down.



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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/10/2017 3:14:04 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

Yeah, think about things as the normal IJ player you are. You should know exactly what you like to see and what you hate to see as the IJ. The latter items are what you want to do.


Things like
Take Adak early and reinforce it big. Force the IJ to send the KB up there if they want it.
Reinforce Diego Garcia. Again, goal is to force the IJ to commit the KB way out there.
Create a blood bath in Burma. Force action there with Indian troops ...
etc

Right? Get the KB sailing across the globe ... stalemates that eat up supply. things like that. Its easier switching (I think) from IJ to allies as a player because the IJ holds the initiative early and you know exactly what can slow that down.




The Japanese player had better be careful. These are not the Aleutians one is used to...

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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/10/2017 11:12:01 AM   
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Rather than the traditional KB being 6 CVs operating off Hawaii, you have 4 parts to content with. Three TFs made up of 2 CVs, CVL plus KB-4 of 3 CVLs (CRB). KB-1 & 2 at Pearl, KB-3 at Babeldoab. Keep track of them the best you can.

As Allies, you will have 4 American CVs as of Jan 1st. There are some CVL and CLV hybrids that have limited use that you will want to convert to full CVLs. You can cause some havoc, but you have to be careful.

I would open up a game as Japan to see how things have changed. There have been some re-positioning of forces from my game vs Gen Patton to this version. Don't be surprised to see something show up in new area.

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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/10/2017 12:38:21 PM   
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@all, many, many THANKS!

I guess the name of the game is do unto him what you'd hate to be done unto you... a very interesting mindset to look at things from. These are my current thoughts:

- Diego Garcia I had not considered. It is now on my list.
- The Aleutians are now quite interesting. I see four bases with increased garrisons, base forces, construction troops, and even a CD unit. To take them it will take a major operation now.
- For me, the Japanese economy has always been the deciding factor. It is in a much lowered state. If I can make Falken overspend, and I can delay his getting the resources he needs, I stand a good chance, notwithstanding slightly higher early losses. I know. I have crashed the Japanese economy a couple of times :).
- Japanese flattops... I must be where they are not, I think. Take little bites, win little battles. Be strong where he is weak. Be absent where he is strong, unless I must hold on to something.
- Burma is a theater I need to give enough attention to. I'll reinforce it as much as I can without leaving India open for an invasion. Still, even if India is invaded, I think it is not that easy to conquer.

My esteemed opponent sent me an email last night, with a status report:

quote:

Hi,

Just wanted to give you an update... Turn 1 still going on.
So far, i've done:
- Industry, Engine, Airframes, Unit Resize changes (very minimal), Bases, LCUs, and existing Non-Sub TFs.

Left to do:
- Existing Sub TFs, Airgroups, Test of Turn with existing TFs w/Airgroup settings, and then I have to start creating the new TFs. Although there are about 300 of those, they usually only take me 3-4 days.

If everything goes well, should be done everything by end of the week, then it's game time.


That means we should see the results of the first 2-day turn soon. Once again, thanks all for reading this and for pitching in.

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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/10/2017 3:01:39 PM   
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One small point about the old USN DDs - if you do the first upgrade available in the game (in stock), you can no longer convert them to APDs! Not sure if that little surprise is still in the BTS scenarios.

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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/10/2017 3:10:44 PM   
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I hate two day turns!


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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/10/2017 5:46:47 PM   
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@BBfanboy, I intend to convert those old DDs to APDs immediately, as the Clemson APD conversion is available at start in this Mod.

@John 3rd, 2-day turns need a different mindset, but I find them doable. They make players more careful, and thus slow the pace of the game a bit. On the other hand, a well-executed raid is something to behold when playing 2-day turns.

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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/12/2017 4:51:28 AM   
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quote:

Hi,

Just a small update. Finished all existing TFs, Airgroups and Tested my Turn 1 (several times with tweaks).
Not perfect, but generally happy with it.

Only thing left to do is the creating of the new TFs. Although there is about 300 of them, looking good to completing for this weekend.

Dave


Turn 1 coming along nicely. I should be able to post turn 1 results within a week.

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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/14/2017 6:51:41 PM   
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Received turn 1 from Falken today. I should be able to send it back to him either today or tomorrow.

There are a few things I am not so sure about how to do. China is one of them. So far I intend to pull back the air force, and vacate the clear hexes. Everything else depends on how big a push he will make there, I guess.

Next turn I need to decide what to send from the East Coast to India. I will not be able to send everything at once, but I need to have a plan.

Will update after turn 1 is run.

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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/14/2017 7:38:32 PM   
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China - I've increased devices by at least 50% (except the 300 rifle squads per month). Find the many x3 terrain to defend in. Be careful of overstacking in many places. The higher the SL (Stacking Limits), the more it favors Japan. Many of the C-47 transport air groups go to a hopefully expanded Ledo AF for runs into western China. Every little bit helps. I march the handful of unrestricted LCUs into India (after paying the appropriate PP) were supplies are plentiful and where the need for great Chinese take out restaurants is at. Send a few more Corp to Wenchow and make it expensive and time consuming for Japan to conquer. The small Corp (under 200 Assault Value) are great for guerrilla warfare and to cut roads/trails.

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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/14/2017 7:42:53 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ny59giants
I march the handful of unrestricted LCUs into India (after paying the appropriate PP) where supplies are plentiful and where the need for great Chinese take out restaurants is at.


Man! This made my day ;p Thanks!


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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/15/2017 4:03:50 PM   
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Ok... turn 1 sent. I have no idea how I am doing (I have followed most of your advice, at least as much as I can with turn 1 house rules). Will post a very condensed result of turn 1 as soon as I have it back.


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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/15/2017 9:02:42 PM   
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A summarized combat report (more info as soon as I get the turn):

quote:

In a series of engagements over two days, the two DDs that start in Hong Kong, while only hitting CA Chokai twice in return. At least that TF spent a lot of ammo and will have to rearm.

xAKL Montanes eats two torpedoes courtesy of SS RO-65, near Talaud-eilanden.

Pearl Harbor (one-day attack only):

BB Washington, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Mississippi, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
BB California, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Idaho, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
BB New Mexico, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2
DM Preble, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage, Massive explosion
AV Curtiss, Torpedo hits 1
APD Schley, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
CL Honolulu, Torpedo hits 1

P-40B Warhawk: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 3 destroyed on ground
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
A-20A Havoc: 1 destroyed on ground
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed on ground
B-18A Bolo: 1 destroyed on ground
PBY-5 Catalina: 2 destroyed on ground
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed on ground
P-36A Mohawk: 2 destroyed on ground
O-47A: 1 destroyed on ground
R3D-2: 1 destroyed on ground

Repair Shipyard hits 12
Airbase hits 16
Runway hits 36
Port hits 19

A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 23 damaged, 2 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 11 damaged, 5 destroyed by flak


Manila:

PG Asheville, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
PG Tulsa, Bomb hits 1
AVD Childs, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
ACM Colonel Harrison, Bomb hits 1, on fire, Massive explosion
AS Canopus, Bomb hits 3, on fire
AS Otus, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AM Bittern, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AM Lark, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
AO Pecos, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AO Trinity, Bomb hits 1
TK Gertrude Kellogg, Bomb hits 1
TK La Estrella Caltex, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
TK Manatawny, Bomb hits 3
TK Mindanao, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAP Candesa, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Don Esteban, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Ethel Edwards, Bomb hits 1
xAK Governor Wright, Bomb hits 1
xAP Neptuna, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK Ravnaas, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Si Kiang, Bomb hits 1 on fire
xAK Tantalus, Bomb hits 1
xAKL Bisayas, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAKL Corregidor, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, Massive explosion
xAKL Don Jose, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
SS S-38, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
SS S-40, Bomb hits 2
SS Sailfish, Bomb hits 1
SS Sargo, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
SS Saury, Bomb hits 2
SS Sculpin, Bomb hits 2
SS Seadragon, Bomb hits 1
SS Seal, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
SS Sealion, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
SS Searaven, Bomb hits 4
SS Seawolf, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
SS Skipjack, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
SS Snapper, Bomb hits 2
SS Spearfish, Bomb hits 3, heavy damage
SS Sturgeon, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk

P-40B Warhawk: 2 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 5 destroyed
PBY-4 Catalina: 3 damaged

Repair Shipyard hits 14
Port hits 9
Port supply hits 1
Runway hits 1

A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 6 destroyed
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged, 1 destroyed by flak
G3M2 Nell: 4 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 10 destroyed, 3 damaged


Balikpapan:

SS I-127, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Clark Field:

B-17D Fortress: 52 damaged (FOW... I WISH I had this many B-17Ds!), 1 destroyed on ground
P-40B Warhawk: 5 damaged, 1 destroyed on ground
P-40E Warhawk: 10 damaged
O-47A: 6 damaged

Airbase hits 15
Runway hits 31


Iba:

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 1

G4M1 Betty: 10 destroyed, 2 damaged


Georgetown:

Buffalo I: 3 destroyed

Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed


Alor Star:

Blenheim I: 11 damaged, 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 9
Runway hits 26


Kota Bharu:

Blenheim I: 3 destroyed, 1 destroyed by flak
Hudson I: 14 damaged, 1 destroyed on ground
Vildebeest III: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged

--328 casualties reported
----Squads: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
----Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 24 disabled
----Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 20

Japanese ground losses:
--32 casualties reported
----Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
----Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
----Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Victoria Point (lost to elements of 1st Raiding Rgt.):

Allied ground losses:
--Units destroyed 1


Cagayan:

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 22

G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged


Davao (lost to elements of 1st Para Assault Div):

PBY-4 Catalina: 2 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
--769 casualties reported
----Squads: 24 destroyed, 2 disabled
----Non Combat: 20 destroyed, 2 disabled
----Engineers: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
--Guns lost 6 (6 destroyed, 0 disabled)
--Units retreated 2

Japanese ground losses:
--7 casualties reported
----Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
----Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
----Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Babeldaob:

B-17D Fortress: 6 damaged, 1 destroyed by flak


Hong Kong:

Walrus II: 3 damaged

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 26

Ki-48-Ib Lily: 3 damaged


Takao:

B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged


Pengpu (captured by 13th Ind. Mixed Brigade)

Allied ground losses:
--1324 casualties reported
----Squads: 58 destroyed, 0 disabled
----Non Combat: 26 destroyed, 5 disabled
----Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
--Guns lost 6 (6 destroyed, 0 disabled)
--Units retreated 1

Japanese ground losses:
--9 casualties reported
----Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
----Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
----Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Guam:

Japanese ground losses:
--90 casualties reported
----Squads: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled
----Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
----Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Amphibious assaults at Kota Bharu, Laoag, Batan Island (captured), Guam, Makin I. (lost)

Air assaults at Davao (lost), Victoria Point (lost).


Now, I am no expert on the Allied side of things, but the result of the Pearl Harbor Attack was better than expected, while the Manila air raids were worse than expected. I did down a few IJN fighters and bombers (most probably less than reported), and Force Z is on the loose. I will listen to reason, but I think I did OK.

Thoughts?

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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/16/2017 12:19:50 AM   
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You did well at PH by only one CL damaged. The old BBs need updating anyways and since you didn't lose any you don't lose VP to him. He did damage a lot of your subs so you might wan to get them to Colombo or Darwin for repairs and moved possibly further, subs repair rather quickly.

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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/16/2017 6:07:06 AM   
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Re: the 52 B-17D damaged, that means 52 bits of fragment damage on an unstated number of aircraft.

Re: the numbers of enemy aircraft lost - IME about half the number of aircraft damaged will not make it back to their ship or base. They will be included in the "Ops Losses" count.
Your most accurate tally of enemy aircraft losses will be in the Intel Report.

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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/16/2017 6:17:52 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kitakami

A summarized combat report (more info as soon as I get the turn):

quote:

In a series of engagements over two days, the two DDs that start in Hong Kong, while only hitting CA Chokai twice in return. At least that TF spent a lot of ammo and will have to rearm.

xAKL Montanes eats two torpedoes courtesy of SS RO-65, near Talaud-eilanden.

Pearl Harbor (one-day attack only):

BB Washington, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Mississippi, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
BB California, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Idaho, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
BB New Mexico, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2
DM Preble, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage, Massive explosion
AV Curtiss, Torpedo hits 1
APD Schley, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
CL Honolulu, Torpedo hits 1

P-40B Warhawk: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 3 destroyed on ground
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
A-20A Havoc: 1 destroyed on ground
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed on ground
B-18A Bolo: 1 destroyed on ground
PBY-5 Catalina: 2 destroyed on ground
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed on ground
P-36A Mohawk: 2 destroyed on ground
O-47A: 1 destroyed on ground
R3D-2: 1 destroyed on ground

Repair Shipyard hits 12
Airbase hits 16
Runway hits 36
Port hits 19

A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 23 damaged, 2 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 11 damaged, 5 destroyed by flak


Manila:

PG Asheville, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
PG Tulsa, Bomb hits 1
AVD Childs, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
ACM Colonel Harrison, Bomb hits 1, on fire, Massive explosion
AS Canopus, Bomb hits 3, on fire
AS Otus, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AM Bittern, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AM Lark, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
AO Pecos, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AO Trinity, Bomb hits 1
TK Gertrude Kellogg, Bomb hits 1
TK La Estrella Caltex, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
TK Manatawny, Bomb hits 3
TK Mindanao, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAP Candesa, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Don Esteban, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Ethel Edwards, Bomb hits 1
xAK Governor Wright, Bomb hits 1
xAP Neptuna, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK Ravnaas, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Si Kiang, Bomb hits 1 on fire
xAK Tantalus, Bomb hits 1
xAKL Bisayas, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAKL Corregidor, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, Massive explosion
xAKL Don Jose, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
SS S-38, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
SS S-40, Bomb hits 2
SS Sailfish, Bomb hits 1
SS Sargo, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
SS Saury, Bomb hits 2
SS Sculpin, Bomb hits 2
SS Seadragon, Bomb hits 1
SS Seal, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
SS Sealion, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
SS Searaven, Bomb hits 4
SS Seawolf, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
SS Skipjack, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
SS Snapper, Bomb hits 2
SS Spearfish, Bomb hits 3, heavy damage
SS Sturgeon, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk

P-40B Warhawk: 2 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 5 destroyed
PBY-4 Catalina: 3 damaged

Repair Shipyard hits 14
Port hits 9
Port supply hits 1
Runway hits 1

A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 6 destroyed
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged, 1 destroyed by flak
G3M2 Nell: 4 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 10 destroyed, 3 damaged


Balikpapan:

SS I-127, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Clark Field:

B-17D Fortress: 52 damaged (FOW... I WISH I had this many B-17Ds!), 1 destroyed on ground
P-40B Warhawk: 5 damaged, 1 destroyed on ground
P-40E Warhawk: 10 damaged
O-47A: 6 damaged

Airbase hits 15
Runway hits 31


Iba:

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 1

G4M1 Betty: 10 destroyed, 2 damaged


Georgetown:

Buffalo I: 3 destroyed

Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed


Alor Star:

Blenheim I: 11 damaged, 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 9
Runway hits 26


Kota Bharu:

Blenheim I: 3 destroyed, 1 destroyed by flak
Hudson I: 14 damaged, 1 destroyed on ground
Vildebeest III: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged

--328 casualties reported
----Squads: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
----Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 24 disabled
----Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 20

Japanese ground losses:
--32 casualties reported
----Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
----Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
----Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Victoria Point (lost to elements of 1st Raiding Rgt.):

Allied ground losses:
--Units destroyed 1


Cagayan:

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 22

G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged


Davao (lost to elements of 1st Para Assault Div):

PBY-4 Catalina: 2 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
--769 casualties reported
----Squads: 24 destroyed, 2 disabled
----Non Combat: 20 destroyed, 2 disabled
----Engineers: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
--Guns lost 6 (6 destroyed, 0 disabled)
--Units retreated 2

Japanese ground losses:
--7 casualties reported
----Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
----Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
----Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Babeldaob:

B-17D Fortress: 6 damaged, 1 destroyed by flak


Hong Kong:

Walrus II: 3 damaged

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 26

Ki-48-Ib Lily: 3 damaged


Takao:

B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged


Pengpu (captured by 13th Ind. Mixed Brigade)

Allied ground losses:
--1324 casualties reported
----Squads: 58 destroyed, 0 disabled
----Non Combat: 26 destroyed, 5 disabled
----Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
--Guns lost 6 (6 destroyed, 0 disabled)
--Units retreated 1

Japanese ground losses:
--9 casualties reported
----Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
----Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
----Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Guam:

Japanese ground losses:
--90 casualties reported
----Squads: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled
----Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
----Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Amphibious assaults at Kota Bharu, Laoag, Batan Island (captured), Guam, Makin I. (lost)

Air assaults at Davao (lost), Victoria Point (lost).


Now, I am no expert on the Allied side of things, but the result of the Pearl Harbor Attack was better than expected, while the Manila air raids were worse than expected. I did down a few IJN fighters and bombers (most probably less than reported), and Force Z is on the loose. I will listen to reason, but I think I did OK.

Thoughts?


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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/16/2017 4:44:45 PM   
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Ok... I have the turn now, and there were inconsistencies between the combat report generated by watching the combat replay, and the turn file. Thankfully, they are in my favor:

- Davao has not fallen (yet).
- The 2x DDs from HK have not sunk (yet).

The below will give you a better idea of the turn's results:






Question... is there any way to post images here without using links to an external site?

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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/16/2017 5:52:28 PM   
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Yes, but only one image per post.
Start your Post
Type all the text.
X the box "Embed picture in post"
Click on "Click here to upload"
Navigate to where the picture is on your system
It says to pick the picture to "open", but just select it
Keep clicking "OK" to all the subsequent windows until the post is made and the picture will be embedded (if the format and size are accepted)

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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/16/2017 5:54:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Yes, but only one image per post.
Start your Post
Type all the text.
X the box "Embed picture in post"
Click on "Click here to upload"
Navigate to where the picture is on your system
It says to pick the picture to "open", but just select it
Keep clicking "OK" to all the subsequent windows until the post is made and the picture will be embedded (if the format and size are accepted)

Thanks a million! :)

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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/17/2017 12:10:08 AM   
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That is how I do it.

Looks like the damage was spread out pretty well. You didn't lose much of anything...

We'll see how well your opponent tries to whallop the thundering herd as everything tries to flee. We'll also see how good he is with SS Deployment.


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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/17/2017 12:34:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: John 3rd
That is how I do it.

Looks like the damage was spread out pretty well. You didn't lose much of anything...

We'll see how well your opponent tries to whallop the thundering herd as everything tries to flee. We'll also see how good he is with SS Deployment.


His carriers have struck Manila twice already (effectively, I must say). The thundering herd is going to be slower than usual, because many of the ships are damaged. Still, the subs from Cebu are unscathed, and so are the three USN cruisers, so I can't really complain. I am going through the gazillion TFs created on Allied turn 2 (I might have reached the mid-point, but I am not sure). 2 IJN CarDivs are NW of Pearl, with another one W of the Philippines (the one that has attacked Manila twice). I have not seen his battlewagons yet (thankfully).

I reinforced Mersing with another Australian Bde (just in case). I am trying to consolidate units and positions wherever I can, knowing that I will lose ground, but trying to make it as costly as possible. Wish I had more and better fighters, but I'm trying my best with the little I have.

Will post again once turn 2 is done.

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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/17/2017 3:53:22 AM   
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Welcome back. Nice to see you in an AAR again.








..dont destroy the fórum so early..

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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/19/2017 1:58:35 PM   
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Ok... turn 2 sent to my opponent. Should have something to show you by tomorrow.

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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/19/2017 10:27:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kitakami

quote:

ORIGINAL: John 3rd
That is how I do it.

Looks like the damage was spread out pretty well. You didn't lose much of anything...

We'll see how well your opponent tries to whallop the thundering herd as everything tries to flee. We'll also see how good he is with SS Deployment.


His carriers have struck Manila twice already (effectively, I must say). The thundering herd is going to be slower than usual, because many of the ships are damaged. Still, the subs from Cebu are unscathed, and so are the three USN cruisers, so I can't really complain. I am going through the gazillion TFs created on Allied turn 2 (I might have reached the mid-point, but I am not sure). 2 IJN CarDivs are NW of Pearl, with another one W of the Philippines (the one that has attacked Manila twice). I have not seen his battlewagons yet (thankfully).

I reinforced Mersing with another Australian Bde (just in case). I am trying to consolidate units and positions wherever I can, knowing that I will lose ground, but trying to make it as costly as possible. Wish I had more and better fighters, but I'm trying my best with the little I have.

Will post again once turn 2 is done.


We created Cebu as an alternate command post. Adm Hart had made that exact proposal and so, in this reality, we followed his suggestion.

Like all those extra cruisers? How about an extra Brit Battlecruiser???


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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/20/2017 12:05:55 AM   
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Force Z escaped untouched. If it can join the USN cruisers from the Philippines, the TF will number 1xBB, 2xBC, 2xCA, 2xCL plus destroyers and older cruisers. As long as there are no enemy flattops nearby, it will be a potent force.

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RE: JFB in charge of the USN??? - 10/20/2017 2:10:21 AM   
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