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2x3+ 014 Soviet - 1/3/2020 11:22:22 AM   
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2x3+ 014 Soviet OOB - 1/3/2020 3:19:52 PM   
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quote:

Soviet South Commander
we gain about 119 000 manpower per turn for now and a average a 20K to 40K return wounded.

in turn 15 the reinforcements of skeleton units are as fallows:
11 Rifle divisions, 10000 men per division: 10000*11 = 110 000
5 tank Brigades, 1800 men per unit: 1800*5 = 9000
3 cavalry divisions, 4000 per division: 4000*3 = 12000

a total of 131000 men are needed to fully equipped out the reinforcements.

in turn 16 the reinforcements of skeleton units are as fallows:
13 Rifle divisions, 10000 men per division: 10000*13 = 130 000
14 tank Brigades, 1800 men per unit: 1800*14 = 25 200
12 Rifle Brigades, 4000 men per brigade: 4000*12 = 48 000

a total of 203 200 manpower is needed to equip all reinforcements for turn 16 alone! and a might have miss a couple of units.

and I not even counting the units that are still at low TOE, commanders report shows we have at least 30 rifle divisions at 20% ToE.

and of course, there is still the tons of reinforcements for the fallowing turns until, during and beyond winter.
I encourage my comrades to calculate the manpower needs for future reinforcements, it helps to know the situation for the future red army.

Let's not forget that we need manpower reserves to fill out casualties on the front lines.

If we look at Army Status it will show under balance: -720 000, we still lack 720 000 manpower to have TOE at 100% and reinforcements are still coming.

in my opinion. we should try to have the good divisions, the +40 morale +40 experience have 100% or at least 90% TOE. those units, under great leaders are the ones that make the real difference,
not only do they have higher CV, they take less loses in combat. have high construction value because of the experience. the good rifle division can build a level 2 fort in 3 to 4 turns. while a below average division (25 exp. 35 morale)
can take 3 turns just to build a level 1 fort!!

Speaking of experience. I think its important long term. to try and have as many combat units on training as possible. right now, experience raises like this:
fresh formations start at 10 to 15 experience, normally the experience goes up by 1, if the units is 10 hexes away from an enemy unit, the experience can raise by 3 per turn until it reaches half of national morale. For us right now, its about 22/23 experience.
a decent division should have at least 30 exp. but as you can see, it can take many turns to reach it.
that is why its important to fill up those skeleton formations to at least 70% TOE. so they can train up and have a decent amount of these trained units ready for Blizzard....

I'm thinking of settings like:
average rifle division: 70% ToE
average rifle brigade: 70% ToE
average Cavalry division: 80% ToE
average tank Brigades: 70% ToE

only the really good units can keep full ToE, the naval brigades for exe, can have 90%


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2x3+ 015 Soviet Volga Deep Defence - 1/3/2020 11:09:48 PM   
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One of these days, I would love to combine all of this into a readable ebook!

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2x3+ 015 Axis - 1/4/2020 12:18:10 PM   
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Most of turn 15 saw our south commander give battle with their BIOS. There may be innocent explanations. But personally I have no doubt it was a Russian hack attack




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2x3+ 015 Axis Manstein Build Up - 1/4/2020 12:19:32 PM   
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Manstein seemed to fail his checks...


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wasted BU


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2x3+ 015 Axis Team Allocations - 1/4/2020 12:21:14 PM   
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For information only - team allocations for turn 15

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RE: 2x3+ 015 Axis - 1/4/2020 1:43:26 PM   
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Most of turn 15 saw our south commander give battle with their BIOS. There may be innocent explanations. But personally I have no doubt it was a Russian hack attack









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RE: 2x3+ 015 Axis - 1/4/2020 3:08:14 PM   
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But are you shellproof?



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RE: 2x3+ 015 Axis - 1/4/2020 4:03:35 PM   
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But are you shellproof?








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RE: 2x3+ 015 Axis - 1/4/2020 10:06:24 PM   
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IFn HQ is moved away from rail repair in Karelia to support the troops in the front - the downside is they will be further from supply in the bad weather. There is one construction unit, and the HQ must be at the end of the line to build up the rail. This will have consequences as the winter progresses.




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2x3+ 015 Axis - 1/5/2020 1:06:21 PM   
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RE: 2x3+ 015 Axis - 1/5/2020 2:36:52 PM   
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How are the soviets still fighting, considering the Axis is making pocket after pocket?

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2x3+ 015 OOB - 1/5/2020 4:14:15 PM   
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quote:

Axis North Commander
The OOB is at 3.4M with a manpower to gun ratio of 1151
8.6% There is not a whole lot of units and what units there are .. do not have stuff to fight



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ORIGINAL: Fetterkrolle
How are the soviets still fighting, considering the Axis is making pocket after pocket?

This is just my take and some of the others may answer differently.
i) We always underestimate the ability of the Soviet Union to bounce back. I think only the players who have played on to 1944/5 know that these loses are just a drop in the ocean for the Soviet Union. A slight spoiler alert, but the Soviet side will be biting back hard in winter and the Axis side will have disasters of its own.
ii) I suspect these are not the best troops or the bulk of their equipment. Yes it is still reducing manpower which hurts. But not biting in as normal in other ways. Reading back on earlier Soviet posts they did not move on to managing ToEs or training until later. This means they did not have their best units with the best equipment on the front lines to fight before. But the benefit now is a lot of the troops in the pockets are the untrained ones without the newest equipment - and a lot of that is still in the rear waiting for winter.
iii) In most places now you are actually totally right - they are not fighting. Apart from near Moscow and in the Donbass there is no contact. And given that apart from those areas they have nothing to lose right now it is best just to keep their distance until winter.
iv) Also generally there have been many players who have come and gone. So most current players are not judging it by how well the normal solo game goes - but as a scenario from when they started. I guess if you are a German player starting the 1944 scenario you do not expect to win, but want to do relatively better from that starting point. The interest for either side now is to do relatively better from this starting point than expected.

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2x3+ 015 Axis Moscow - 1/5/2020 5:08:13 PM   
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With the FBD repairing rail one week away from Moscow further delay is not possible.


Some pilots in the VVS might be quite glad to see Moscow go though

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2x3+ 015 Axis Voronezh Pocket - 1/5/2020 8:12:52 PM   
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quote:

South Axis Commander
shattered the western most cav, nice, that is out of the way then


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RE: 2x3+ 015 Axis Voronezh Pocket - 1/5/2020 8:16:07 PM   
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T015 Axis Air Supply Centre
quote:

South Axis Commander
transports with fighter cover nearly 100 JU52s, nice!




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RE: 2x3+ 015 Axis Voronezh Pocket - 1/5/2020 8:18:23 PM   
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T015 Axis Air Supply South
quote:

South Axis Commander
...to refuel an important PzD [the other side of the Voronezh river!




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RE: 2x3+ 015 Axis Voronezh Pocket - 1/5/2020 8:20:57 PM   
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T015 Axis Voro Pocket
quote:

South Axis Commander
We made a new pocket



quote:

Supreme Axis Commander
there may be pockets where you need one more hex to close them
paras can be used for that too


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RE: 2x3+ 015 Operation: Bronze Charger - 1/6/2020 9:30:22 AM   
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T015 Axis Bronze Charger

So Operation Bronze Charger! commences!

The are some major decisions to make in this operations .. but first ...

quote:

Crackaces
I am turning my armor bronze :wink:


There can be no mistake confusing which units are involved in this foray :wink:

quote:

Crackaces:
I am headed to Yaroslavl!


That is the objective .. population center .. the more manpower disrupted eventually it sums up to the main goal. Keep the Soviet Army in the field under 5.0 M (or something close.)

Time is not on our side in this operation. It is turn 15 -- I expect weather on Turn 17.

quote:

Crackaces
This turn staging ..next turn .. D-day operation Bronze Charge
I have to make the river in one turn


Now thinking two steps ahead .. If the team works together .. Center will advance their troops forward from Moscow while I Corps and L Corps rail in to reduce Moscow ..

quote:

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I Corps can rail to Vzamya next turn
L Corps after that
Just have 18th Army reduce Moscow


In a follow the bouncing ball exercise ... you can watch the Bronze "Lions" move into position ..




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RE: 2x3+ 015 Axis North Rail - 1/6/2020 9:32:53 AM   
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Now everything in is place ..

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Ok my stuff is on rails ready to rail
Except for the Finns







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2x3+ 015 Axis Mius - 1/6/2020 4:21:34 PM   
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On the Mius Front the 22nd Airlanding Division is covering over 100 miles of the front lines between the Donbass and the Azov sea - and remarkably is still advancing. The Soviet south commander can feel confident an assault on Rostov will not be coming through here though.




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2x3+ 015 Weather - 1/6/2020 6:39:23 PM   
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For the second time Rostov has to thank the weather gods for salvation

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2x3+ 015 Axis South Fighter Sweeps - 1/6/2020 8:05:53 PM   
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quote:

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I'll sweep the crap out of his fighters


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2x3+ 015 Axis Strategic Bombing - 1/6/2020 8:07:53 PM   
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T015 Axis Factory Bombing
Not going well...



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RE: 2x3+ 015 Axis Strategic Bombing - 1/7/2020 1:37:55 AM   
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T015 Axis Factory Bombing
Not going well...



Stop me if you've heard me say this before...but it is totally unrealistic for the Germans to know the exact damage % of factories being bombed. Especially given Soviet excellence in Maskirovka. The Soviets would have used the same techniques the Germans used to deceive Allied bombing (both day and night).

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RE: 2x3+ 015 Axis Strategic Bombing - 1/7/2020 12:25:48 PM   
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Stop me if you've heard me say this before...but it is totally unrealistic for the Germans to know the exact damage % of factories being bombed. Especially given Soviet excellence in Maskirovka. The Soviets would have used the same techniques the Germans used to deceive Allied bombing (both day and night).


I think it is a fair comment. Many have commented on whether strategic bombing like this is realistic, but I do not think too many have commented on the separate point about info feedback on it. And separately to strategic bombing I have also criticised the way the program gives instant feedback after each airbase bombing raid on exactly how many aircraft by each airgroup are ready to fly or are damaged. And in other spheres too - I think the option to turn off movement fog of war gives far more information than just a hew ruler would.

By contrast, at least until v1.11.03, our opponents who have been bombed will not be told in the battle report if it was daylight or night time bombing - something in real life they would know!

Slightly in defence of the information though - The Germans did have agents in the rear to observe bombing results in the way the Allies never really did in Germany. In the precision dive bombing raids on the Gorky factories in the real war German agents on the ground actually launched flares to guide German bombers in to the target. And Soviet factories were huge integrated operations, more the size of a city than a big building. So aerial reconnaissance could certainly find them and get better overall visual intelligence on them than they could on the equivalent german supply chain.

But yes I think if the code was open to redesign it, some more general measure of damage over all the factories of a city rather than damage of one factory in a cit would make more sense.


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RE: 2x3+ 015 Axis Strategic Bombing - 1/7/2020 12:50:18 PM   
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And Soviet factories were huge integrated operations, more the size of a city than a big building. So aerial reconnaissance could certainly find them and get better overall visual intelligence on them than they could on the equivalent german supply chain.


I have wondered about this point. When the Germans had a picture of the Shorts bomber factory in flames they thought that was proof enough to know the final assembly was out of action. It might be easier to fly aerial recon of a huge Soviet integrated factory to spot damage. But you would not know if the damage was in the final assembly, damage to the manufacture of some part which would not interrupt production if it was lost, or just damage to the workers recreation area or their kids nursery school. The intelligence is easier to get, but also less accurate.


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2x3+ 015 Soviet Volga Deep Defence - 1/7/2020 2:21:37 PM   
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T015 Soviet Volga Deep Defence

Supreme Command suggests a defence in depth plan.




quote:

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Sir, I hate to argue, but a depth defense such as that is not going to last a turn. Our units per individual basis are quite weak and the defensive CV of the units being spread out in that manner means the fascist panzer corps will be able to smash through them all in one turn alone, with little effort. For example in the north part of Center Front alone there are 5 panzer divisions in close proximity ready to strike.

At least like this we are giving our men one more week to build fortifications, while also allowing them to build strength. Perhaps next week there will be enough CV to make a 2nd defensive line behind the Volga.


quote:

Soviet South Commander
while the defense in depth is the better way to stop German mobility. the situation in the north is different, if our units at the Volga are to weak, its possible an hasty attack from a panzer could break it! (unlikely because of high disruption for mechanize units, but it is possible!) if that is the case, the German panzers and Motorize would only need 15 MP for an hasty attack instead of the 28 MP needed for an full on attack.
and if the Germans can get just one Mot or panzer north of the Volga, we are NOT pushing it back.
and this way, troops can build level 1 forts in time for the Volga! further securing the river line.


quote:

Soviet Centre Commander
Having an all-round-weak in-depth defense with CV between 1-6 would MAYBE buy us another week, if we are lucky. However, I think you are underestimating the enemy if you think a 3 unit deep wall of very low resistance will do much. It will be one hasty attack victory after another for them, no difficulties.

Regardless, ponder we did that, at what cost? It would draw away manpower from and considerably weaken the Volga defensive line, which would now increase its fortification level slower towards level 1. We would also permanently lose a lot of men and units, not only because of casualties from battles (all losses for sure), but also because many more of our units would likely be encircled, isolated and destroyed, something we were told must not happen!

Let's be frank and realistic here gentlemen. There is no way to stop the enemy from crossing at any point along the Volga considering our current manpower and the strength of the enemy, regardless of what strategy we use, it would be folly to believe otherwise. Our concerns on the frontline at this stage are to stall the enemy while not losing more men and units to encirclements, while surviving until the Rasputitsa. This is what I've strived for.


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2x3+ 015 Soviet North Bombing - 1/8/2020 11:24:19 AM   
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