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Anyone know of WW2 aircraft used by different countrie... - 6/1/2017 12:45:35 PM   
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Hi again,

I've really been enjoying the air war in 'War in the West'. This has led me to start reading up on the various aircraft.

I was surprised to see that the Douglas A-20 Havoc and the Boston bomber were the same plane. The British named the Havoc "Boston".

I haven't found any others but have a suspicion there are more.

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RE: Anyone know of WW2 aircraft used by different coun... - 6/1/2017 1:02:51 PM   
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Here's a few. Correct me if I'm off on any.
AT-6 = Harvard
Lockheed Super Electra = Hudson
F4F Wildcat = Martlet
P-36 = Mohawk
P-40 = Tomahawk

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RE: Anyone know of WW2 aircraft used by different coun... - 6/1/2017 2:57:54 PM   
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From memory (which isn't perfect!) ...

C-47 = Dakota
B-25 = Mitchell

Some others were the same as the US nicknames. B24 (Liberator) P38 (lightning) P51 (Mustang), etc.

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RE: Anyone know of WW2 aircraft used by different coun... - 6/1/2017 3:29:01 PM   
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Bristol Type 156 Beaufighter = Whispering Death
Douglas SBD Dauntless = Clunk
Boeing B-52 Stratofortress = Buff
Lockheed P-38 Lightning = Fork-tailed Devil
Messerschmitt BF 109F = Fritz
Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress = Queen
Vickers Wellington = Wimpy
Martin B-26 Marauder = Widow-Maker
Republic P-47 Thunderbolt = T-bolt

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RE: Anyone know of WW2 aircraft used by different coun... - 6/1/2017 5:02:49 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Red2112

Bristol Type 156 Beaufighter = Whispering Death
Douglas SBD Dauntless = Clunk
Boeing B-52 Stratofortress = Buff
Lockheed P-38 Lightning = Fork-tailed Devil
Messerschmitt BF 109F = Fritz
Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress = Queen
Vickers Wellington = Wimpy
Martin B-26 Marauder = Widow-Maker
Republic P-47 Thunderbolt = T-bolt

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http://web.mit.edu/btyung/www/nickname.html


I think you missed the purpose of the OP's post. :)

For example, the B-25J Mitchell in American service was called the Mitchell III by the RAF.

The C-47 Skytrain (US) was called the Dakota by the RAF.

P-51B/C (US) Mustang Mk III (RAF)

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RE: Anyone know of WW2 aircraft used by different coun... - 6/1/2017 8:10:49 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aurelian

The C-47 Skytrain (US) was called the Dakota by the RAF.

P-51B/C (US) Mustang Mk III (RAF)


Thanks....that's the kind of things I'm looking for....

Like F4F Wildcat= Martlet

(I do appreciate the nicknames link though; it is interesting.)

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RE: Anyone know of WW2 aircraft used by different coun... - 6/1/2017 9:52:01 PM   
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Not an airplane, but I think you may be looking for something like this:

Zippo (American nickname) = Ronson (British nickname) = Emcha (Russian nickname) => M4 tank

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RE: Anyone know of WW2 aircraft used by different coun... - 6/1/2017 10:10:10 PM   
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B-17 C/E/F (US) Fortress I/Mk IIA/ MK II (Strange sequence, but that's how it went)

TBF Avenger series (US) Tarpon GR 1/Avenger Mk.II/III (Royal Navy.) MK.IV was cancelled. AS4 delivered post war. Avenger AS3/3M/Mk.3W2 (Royal Canadian Navy. Modified for sub hunting)

SB2C Helldiver (USN) A-25A Shrike (USAAF) 10 accepted out of 420 by the Royal Australian Air Force, the other 410 sent to the USMC. Converted to SB2C-1, they were used as trainers and target tugs. The Royal Navy Fleet Air Arm received 26, called Helldiver I. After unsatisfactory tests that pinpointed "appalling handling", none of the British Helldivers were used in action.



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RE: Anyone know of WW2 aircraft used by different coun... - 6/1/2017 10:12:33 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aurelian

quote:

ORIGINAL: Red2112

Bristol Type 156 Beaufighter = Whispering Death
Douglas SBD Dauntless = Clunk
Boeing B-52 Stratofortress = Buff
Lockheed P-38 Lightning = Fork-tailed Devil
Messerschmitt BF 109F = Fritz
Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress = Queen
Vickers Wellington = Wimpy
Martin B-26 Marauder = Widow-Maker
Republic P-47 Thunderbolt = T-bolt

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http://web.mit.edu/btyung/www/nickname.html


I think you missed the purpose of the OP's post. :)

For example, the B-25J Mitchell in American service was called the Mitchell III by the RAF.

The C-47 Skytrain (US) was called the Dakota by the RAF.

P-51B/C (US) Mustang Mk III (RAF)


Oh sorry, I see.

Hope the list at least gives a starting point. At least you know one nickname, then it´s just a case of looking for the second one I guess.

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RE: Anyone know of WW2 aircraft used by different coun... - 6/1/2017 10:17:37 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Philippe at bay

Not an airplane, but I think you may be looking for something like this:

Zippo (American nickname) = Ronson (British nickname) => M4 tank
If I can divert a bit... http://www.theshermantank.com/lee-and-grant-tanks/soviet-shermans-the-soviet-union-used-and-liked-the-sherman/

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RE: Anyone know of WW2 aircraft used by different coun... - 6/1/2017 10:24:23 PM   
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Fun article, and it added a third nickname for the M4.

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RE: Anyone know of WW2 aircraft used by different coun... - 6/2/2017 7:41:20 AM   
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If I remember well, the Brewster F2A was known as the Buffalo in the RAF and B-239 by the Finns

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RE: Anyone know of WW2 aircraft used by different coun... - 6/2/2017 11:58:45 AM   
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Some more:

Curtiss P-40 Warhawk (US) \ Hawk (France) \ Tomahawk, Kittyhawk (UK, USSR, Netherlands)
Grumman F6F Hellcat (US) \ Gannet, Hellcat (UK)
Douglas B-18 Bolo (US) \ Digby (Canada)
Douglas SBD Dauntless (US Navy, Marines) \ A-24 Banshee (US Army Air Force)
Consolidated PBY Catalina (US,UK) \ Canso (Canada)

There are also lots of planes that had varying nicknames but the same official name.

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RE: Anyone know of WW2 aircraft used by different coun... - 6/2/2017 12:28:29 PM   
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Thanks too everyone for the posts.... good stuff!

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RE: Anyone know of WW2 aircraft used by different coun... - 6/2/2017 2:45:26 PM   
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Almost any American plane which was used by other Nations had differences in armament, engines, and fuel tank sizes.
Many had a longer range because the American engines generally burnt with less tolerance, and were designed to burn more efficiently.
My favorite example of this was when my dad was building Allison engines in Indianapolis for the P 40 and P 39.
One day, Allison held a publicity stunt and blocked off west tenth street, where they then brought three P 40 models out, destined for the USAAF, China, and the RAF.
All three planes were given the same amount of fuel and started at the same time.
The Allison people bragged that the test would prove that the U.S. version was superior, and they were sure this display would show this.

Instead, the U.S. plane cut out first, then the RAF, and the Chinese was still chugging away.
The reason was that the planes were designed with different tolerances, and the importance of burning "lean" were made apparent (for those willing to learn).

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RE: Anyone know of WW2 aircraft used by different coun... - 6/2/2017 11:59:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: m10bob

Almost any American plane which was used by other Nations had differences in armament, engines, and fuel tank sizes.
Many had a longer range because the American engines generally burnt with less tolerance, and were designed to burn more efficiently.
My favorite example of this was when my dad was building Allison engines in Indianapolis for the P 40 and P 39.
One day, Allison held a publicity stunt and blocked off west tenth street, where they then brought three P 40 models out, destined for the USAAF, China, and the RAF.
All three planes were given the same amount of fuel and started at the same time.
The Allison people bragged that the test would prove that the U.S. version was superior, and they were sure this display would show this.

Instead, the U.S. plane cut out first, then the RAF, and the Chinese was still chugging away.
The reason was that the planes were designed with different tolerances, and the importance of burning "lean" were made apparent (for those willing to learn).

That indeed is very cool,  your father engineer for Allison ?.

Running lean in combustion engines is a way to increase fuel efficiency by trading longevity , the " tolerances " had to be changed due to running temperature increase. I heard many of the Allied nations request this due to their fuel shortages. Problem with this was at high RPM's they would run the risk of burning a hole in a piston/s ....

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