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OT: Homefires - 4/29/2017 2:36:14 AM   
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So, lately I've been watching an English series called "Homefires."

Perhaps some of the Brits and/or Aussies know what I'm talking about.

As you may know, a few months ago America remembered the internment camps of WW2.

In that series, the Italians were put into "camps" in England, because of Mussolini. Being half Italian myself,
I had no idea that this had happened in England.

What do you Chaps have to say?

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RE: OT: Homefires - 4/29/2017 3:12:37 AM   
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I've seen Homefires, though I think my memory is a bit foggy. I recall there being something about negative attitudes about Italians, but I don't recall anything about them being put into camps. I may have forgotten something though.

Both the Americans and British used POWs as farm workers. In the US it was popular among the prisoners and many made friends with the families they worked for. One December a number of Italian POWs escaped from their camp. They were found having Christmas dinner with the family they had been working for during the summer.

Being a POW in England probably wasn't as pleasant. Many Americans were immigrants or first generation immigrants and I think there was a lot less personal animosity against individuals (at least from Europe) who were fighting the war. The hard core fascists were segregated from those who were not that political. The US hadn't had any cities bombed by the Germans.

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RE: OT: Homefires - 4/29/2017 4:48:39 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Footslogger

So, lately I've been watching an English series called "Homefires."

Perhaps some of the Brits and/or Aussies know what I'm talking about.

As you may know, a few months ago America remembered the internment camps of WW2.

In that series, the Italians were put into "camps" in England, because of Mussolini. Being half Italian myself,
I had no idea that this had happened in England.

What do you Chaps have to say?


warspite1

I assume you are referring to this British TV Series with the great opening music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rwiNCryws0

I enjoyed the two series made, and was more than a little disappointed when they decided not to commission a third. The series was a little twee in places but generally the individual storylines were sound and the cast very watchable.

As for the internment this is well known and I attach below a link to the BBC within which the actor Tom Conti gives a brief piece about his mother and father.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22278664

and here is a more general piece on the event

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10224872

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RE: OT: Homefires - 4/29/2017 8:36:12 PM   
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I wasn't aware of Italians being interned in England. I guess it makes sense to some degree as some Germans were also interned on the Isle of Man as well. Additionally some 60-80,000 (I forget the exact numbers) Italians and Germans were interned in the U.S. Not on the same scale as the Japanese, but it was there and rarely ever mentioned. At the close of the war some 20,000 of those were deported. To be fair most of those were die hard Nazis or Fascists. One exception would be 'Lucky Luciano' who had made a deal with the FBI to secure his release after the war in exchange for keeping the NYC docks 'in line' for the duration.

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RE: OT: Homefires - 4/30/2017 12:35:50 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Footslogger

So, lately I've been watching an English series called "Homefires."

Perhaps some of the Brits and/or Aussies know what I'm talking about.

As you may know, a few months ago America remembered the internment camps of WW2.

In that series, the Italians were put into "camps" in England, because of Mussolini. Being half Italian myself,
I had no idea that this had happened in England.

What do you Chaps have to say?




Internment was happening everywhere at the time. However, things were as not as bad as it seemed and many Italians elected to stay on and not return home after the war and (along with later post-war migration) Australia now has a large Italian community.

Here is a very general link to internment in the Australian War Memorial collections if you wish to have a look around..... Link



ID number:            030190/15
Collection type:      Photograph
Object type:          Black & white
Maker:	              Halmarick, Colin Thomas
Physical description: Black & white
Description:          Tatura, Victoria, Australia. 13 February 1943. Family groups of Italian internees from overseas now interned at Tatura 
                      Internment Camp. Back row, left to right: D. Fortuna; E. Fortuna; G. Casati; L. Casati. Front row: A. Casati; M. Fortuna; 
                      C. Fortuna; C. Fortuna; E. Corona. 


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