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Bomber command tips - 2/26/2017 2:04:29 PM   
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So im up to dec 44 in my current game and bomber command has been brought to its knees by the Luftwaffe.

im routinely being intercepted by 200-300 night fighters on each raid which has decimated my bomber fleet.

is there any way to get more night fighters as the 260 I have isn't nearly enough. any other tips would be great as well.
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RE: Bomber command tips - 2/26/2017 2:34:03 PM   
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Considering it is 1944, it is probably a bit late with the advice, so I will talk in general about how to eliminate the Luftwaffe.

In the beginning.....you should only be bombing the Ruhr with Bomber Command. At Night. Set up a good bombing Air Directive, say Wuppertal with a 3 hex box. Don't bomb every day, and every turn, rest any squadron with a morale less then say 60.

You can rebase all the night fighters to southern England and make them part of Bomber Command if you want, but sometimes you may want to use some of them for other things.

The americans should also start by bombing the Ruhr....but can occasionally range elsewhere. As you get more and more long range fighters, you can hit deeper targets.

If for any reason you suspect the Luftwaffe has a presence in airbases in any area...bomb the airfields with the American 4 engine bombers. Carpet bombing the airfields will wreck them.

Feel free to fly all the air superiority missions you want....trading fighters for fighters only favours you. If you are resting a lot of bomber squadrons, you can keep the attrition up.

Finally..at some point the back of the day Luftwaffe fighters will be broken....you no longer have to fly at night with Bomber command, so switch them to day missions and bombs away.



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RE: Bomber command tips - 2/26/2017 3:53:28 PM   
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In addition to that, it helps to set all night fighters pilot replacements to be trained. You have more day fighters than you can ever use, but night fighters are scarce, so it makes sense to us we the best pilots.

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RE: Bomber command tips - 2/26/2017 5:11:51 PM   
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Yeah I do most of that. The pilot replacements and using bomber command during the day are ideas I hadn't though of though.

cheers

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RE: Bomber command tips - 2/27/2017 7:26:48 AM   
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The allies should use trained pilots for everything....they easily train more pilots then they need. Historically they started dismantling the pilot schools in 1944.

An untrained pilot should never enter a plane..... the Norwegian, Czech etc should be put in quieter areas so they aren't used for attrition.

Sheesh....the Americans get 375 pilots a turn. The British 225.

When you add pilots, it always takes from the pool first before it takes untrained (and only if you say it is okay to do so)




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RE: Bomber command tips - 2/27/2017 1:38:05 PM   
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Are you sure those are night fighters decimating your bombers? Or Flak? What altitude are you flying at?

When you say "decimating", are you talking just keeping morale low (which I would expect), or shooting down scores of planes?

I have never seen German Night Fighters cause massive damage. They help keep morale low in Bomber Command, between that and Flak it's typical to have 1/2 of your units too low in morale to bomb that turn and on rest. They'll shoot some down, but not scores.

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RE: Bomber command tips - 2/27/2017 6:22:57 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball

Are you sure those are night fighters decimating your bombers? Or Flak? What altitude are you flying at?

When you say "decimating", are you talking just keeping morale low (which I would expect), or shooting down scores of planes?

I have never seen German Night Fighters cause massive damage. They help keep morale low in Bomber Command, between that and Flak it's typical to have 1/2 of your units too low in morale to bomb that turn and on rest. They'll shoot some down, but not scores.


im talking about getting to jan 45 and realising that I wasn't building enough bombers to keep up with losses. Was routinely getting smashed by 200 + night fighters and losing around 10% each raid which I assume would be mostly fighter losses. flying at max altitude so 22000-23000 feet.

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RE: Bomber command tips - 2/27/2017 7:08:54 PM   
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Have you no replacement bombers available? Are you manually upgrading the bombers or leaving it on auto?

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RE: Bomber command tips - 2/27/2017 9:41:36 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball

Are you sure those are night fighters decimating your bombers? Or Flak? What altitude are you flying at?

When you say "decimating", are you talking just keeping morale low (which I would expect), or shooting down scores of planes?

I have never seen German Night Fighters cause massive damage. They help keep morale low in Bomber Command, between that and Flak it's typical to have 1/2 of your units too low in morale to bomb that turn and on rest. They'll shoot some down, but not scores.


im talking about getting to jan 45 and realising that I wasn't building enough bombers to keep up with losses. Was routinely getting smashed by 200 + night fighters and losing around 10% each raid which I assume would be mostly fighter losses. flying at max altitude so 22000-23000 feet.


Can you post screenshots of your production? Something is not right. The British produce massive numbers of Level Bombers, more than you really need. By 1945, you should have 1000s in the pool

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RE: Bomber command tips - 2/28/2017 2:29:04 PM   
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I'm with Devonport on this....

It sounds a lot like you have your Squadrons set on Manual (which is default) for upgrades.

So what has happened is your airforce has attritioned down to the point where the Luftwaffe can handle it.

Hit 'c' for the commanders report.

At the top are several tabs. Units/HQ's/Air Groups/Leaders/Battles/Locations/Equipment

Press the Air Groups tab.

Underneath the tabs it will tell you how many aircraft you have in general....Total, in Reserve, Damaged....
Beside that is 5 functions. This will set various things for all the aircraft you have listed in the bottom. You can filter this at the very bottom by selecting various things such as NONE then FB to list only fighter bombers.

But for now.....press Change Upgr. Select 1 for AUTO. Now the computer will automatically do upgrades for you if it thinks it has the aircraft.

Replace will change what type of pilots you will accept.....you can hit 3 for trained pilots only.

Don't hit Disband...that will get rid of your entire airforce which is now showing below.

Now hit Add Pilots.....Hit Yes, and Yes. All your squadrons will fill up with pilots.

The next turn you should notice a lot of new shiny planes in your squadrons...you may have to rest them for a couple turns if the morale is low.


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RE: Bomber command tips - 2/28/2017 4:52:11 PM   
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Yeah I do auto upgrades.

Here are the screenshots for production and losses






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RE: Bomber command tips - 2/28/2017 4:53:20 PM   
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and production




bomber command hasn't been flying night missions since January so numbers aren't as bad as they were when I gave up the night bombing campaign.

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RE: Bomber command tips - 2/28/2017 5:34:10 PM   
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Do you play AI? If yes, what is the morale level in the game options?

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RE: Bomber command tips - 2/28/2017 6:30:03 PM   
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Yeah playing AI on challenging difficulty.

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