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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 8:49:50 AM   
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The French conclude a separate peace with Germany. The bulk of the French Empire pledge allegiance to the "Hero of Verdun" Marshal Philippe Petain and his new Vichy regime. He dissolves the 3rd Republic and, conveniently forgetting the fact that the future of France depends on what Hitler says it is (if Hitler wins) or what his Free French opponents say it is (if the Allies win), he sets about a program for the National Regeneration of France......





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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 8:55:41 AM   
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I think it was the superb World at War TV series that showed a few seconds of film that flipped between scenes of triumphant German troops marching through Paris and scenes of 6th Army marching into captivity at Stalingrad. Marvellous clip and a lesson for the AI if it thinks it has this game won so there.....




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 9:05:27 AM   
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Reinforcements

United Kingdom

An Infantry Corps arrives in Halifax

Soviet Union
Two Garrisons which are placed in Riga and Narva
An Engineer south of Leningrad

MPP Expenditure

UK - The British spend all its MPP on building up the navy, army and airforces to the extent possible. A lot of MPP is used to build up AA defence of major towns and ports too.
USA - Nothing
USSR - Nothing




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 9:07:05 AM   
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What a Muppet!!!

I've just spent all my MPP and forgot to launch Operation Ariel.... What a remtard. So Gort and IX Corps who otherwise could have got away, are sitting in Northern France....

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 9:26:37 AM   
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Entertaining AAR and comforting to see I'm not the only one being beat up by the AI . If you need an opponent when multiplayer arrives, let me know.

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 9:48:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: AllenK

Entertaining AAR and comforting to see I'm not the only one being beat up by the AI . If you need an opponent when multiplayer arrives, let me know.
warspite1

Thank-you. Yes, that would be good - AndyG1 has requested too but happy to have a couple of games going.


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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 9:53:52 AM   
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The Free French Navy or Forces Navales Francaises Libres (FNFL) were relatively small in 1940. The five destroyers of the Chacal, Fantasque and Bourrasque classes being the main component.

The game has this as a CL, which arrives in Plymouth at half strength but should be a DD.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 10:04:26 AM   
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The British and French were so desperate for military equipment when the war started that they turned to the USA. In hindsight Britain spent an awful lot of money on aircraft that was of mixed value. However, a hidden benefit was perhaps that the Americans were able to learn from the UK's war experience. The American aircraft that followed would be an entirely different proposition altogether....

The British took over the French orders after the fall of France and I do the same here.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 10:05:08 AM   
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Much is made of Operation Catapult, but frankly the take up of volunteers to fight for de Gaulle was extremely small. This is perhaps not surprising given that, unlike smaller countries that set up a Government in exile that their population could rally around, the official French Government was Vichy and therefore there may have been a reluctance to go to war against the stated neutral policy of one's country.

Churchill on the other hand had no such doubts. The Free French were in the right and he gave his support - I do the same.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 10:44:35 AM   
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So lets move the turn on and watch the totally unnecessary death throes of Lord Gort VC

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 10:59:47 AM   
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I don't really understand what is going on in the desert. The engineer seems to have stopped building the fort. But I can't get him to re-start as the option is all greyed out

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 11:09:25 AM   
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No words. Just no words.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 11:14:18 AM   
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The British launched Operation Catapult to destroy French naval units in Mers-el-Kebir if the commander refused any one of four choices given to him. Sadly the French refused to take any of the options offered and the British opened fire, sinking the Bretagne and killing over 1,000 French sailors in the process. French naval units in Egypt and in the UK were seized while the battleship Richelieu was attacked in Dakar.

As per real life I agree to launch the operation here. In response the French bomb Gibraltar.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 11:47:17 AM   
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The Free French fight back! I am asked if I want to launch Operation Menace - an attack on Dakar. I say yes as per historical. The attack was unsuccessful as the French authorities in Senegal were not interested in joining de Gaulle and fought back. However, here I seem to have had more success as I have received a chunk of MPP . Elsewhere de Gaulle's mission to convert Vichy territory has met with more success.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 11:54:55 AM   
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Reinforcements


None

MPP Expenditure

UK - The CV's are upgraded to Advanced Aircraft 2, the RAF units in the UK are upgraded, the army corps in the UK are fully upgraded
USA - Nothing
USSR - Nothing




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 12:09:54 PM   
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The 2nd British and 2nd Canadian Escort Flotillas find a wolf pack and inflict some losses on the U-boats. However the 1st Canadian is unable to get to the scene quickly enough.

The Canadian Corps heads alone for Egypt, while the Maritime bomber delivered to Canada has also been sent to North Africa.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 1:07:20 PM   
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Nothing much to report on the German/Italian front. I notice signs of a build up in the east, intelligence shows a possible Balkan incursion and that is about it. My gut feel about a Sea Lion operation was perhaps wrong? Still confused as to why the Kriegsmarine surface forces have been so quiet.

Anyway there has been a bit of a party going on chez Berlin - well not so much of a party, more of an intimate get together (Phineas and Ferb fans ).




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 1:09:50 PM   
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Reinforcements

None

MPP Expenditure

UK - Army, air force and navy units in both the UK and Egypt - just not enough points.
USA - Ground Attack and Command and Control are researched
USSR - Nothing




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 1:10:53 PM   
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The Desert Rats get some tanks! Hussah.


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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 1:13:51 PM   
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On the northern convoy route the German wolf pack is able to slink away undetected, but further south the newly upgraded British destroyers fall upon two wolf packs..... A bitter battle breaks out and both U-Boats and destroyers are mauled.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 1:29:17 PM   
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That nonsense with the Engineer has blown a bit of a hole in my defensive plans. Sorry did I say plans? That makes it sound like I have the first freakin' idea that I know what the hell I'm doing....

I have the approaches to Alex fortified - and am working on something similar for Cairo. I just need some units to man them!




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 1:40:29 PM   
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There are more signs of a German build up in the east. I think my Sea Lion hunch was, in hunch terms, a total pile of pig swill. [Note to self: keep your stupid hunches to yourself].

As for the Italians, well they obviously don't expect what happened in real life then?




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 1:57:43 PM   
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This well known exchange probably didn't happen but it pretty much sums up Western politicians attempts to understand the eastern European countries - and why they were so damn difficult to understand!

FDR: What’s the King’s name?
Aide: Hungary doesn’t have a King.
FDR: Then who runs the kingdom?
Aide: A Regent by the name of Admiral Miklós Horthy.
FDR: Admiral? Then Hungary must have a powerful navy.
Aide: Hungary has no navy; it doesn’t even have access to the sea.
FDR: Wars are often fought for religious reasons. What’s the main religion there?
Aide: Catholicism, Mr. President. But Admiral Horthy is Protestant.
FDR: Did this admiral declare war on us because of territorial claims then?
Aide: Hungary’s territorial claims are against Romania.
FDR: In that case, did Hungary declare war on Romania?
Aide: No, Hungary and Romania are allies.
FDR: Let me get this straight. Hungary is a kingdom run by a Regent who’s an admiral without a navy, and it is allied with Romania against which it has territorial claims but it has declared war on the U.S. against which it doesn’t.
Aide: That’s right, Mr. President.


Hail the king, er Prince, er Regent...or whatever...



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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 2:08:18 PM   
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Or is Sea Lion back on? This is very different to the last game. The Italians appear to have attacked Greece on their own. Prime Minister Metaxas has delivered his famous Ochi! response to Italian demands and there is no German army that annihilates the Greeks before the war gets going.

No attack on Yugoslavia and no appearance, as yet, of the Afrika Korps. What is going on?


[Greek soldier]:Lets hope Capitano Scarlato is in North Afrika....



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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 4:30:15 PM   
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Just as I ask where the troops are coming from, Egypt explodes!! Too many units remain understrength but it looks a whole lot better...




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 4:30:37 PM   
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A unit arrives in the UK under the destroyers for bases agreement. This is understrength but its bodies on the ground so no one is complaining!




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 4:31:20 PM   
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Reinforcement

Soviet Union


II Corps in Kaunas and IX Corps in Lvov

MPP Expenditure

UK - Every MPP point is spent building up the army in Egypt - and a few spare MPP are utilised by the Greeks.
USA - Nothing
USSR - Nothing




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 4:59:52 PM   
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The two British destroyers in the Western Approaches have a disappointing time against the one wolf pack that hung around - a 1:2 expected turned into a 2:1??? As a result the British destroyers have both abandoned the line and headed back to the UK for repair.

In Greece the Macedonian Army begins to head back toward Athens in order to shorten the line.

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 5:56:12 PM   
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"Curiouser and curiouser!" Cried Alice

The attack on Greece appears to have stalled. It looks like Corfu may have been occupied but otherwise there was nothing that turn. Yugoslavia remains virgo intacta and there is no movement in North Africa. I now suspect that the Germans are going to pile everything into an early Barbarossa. That's my guess anyway.


Where have all the Italians gone,
Long time passing.....




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/24/2016 6:04:24 PM   
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Romania throws its lot in with the Axis. Frankly they would rather go to war with Hungary but Antonescu is playing the long game. He believes that by proving herself to Germany, Romania will make good her losses of territory and more.




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