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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 7:25:23 AM   
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No pictures to show as there is no real change from the above. The British put any plans to advance in the desert on hold until they have research going again.

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 8:13:48 AM   
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The Afrika Korps are not dead yet - and my inability to wargame properly knows no bounds!

One of my fighters was on escort mode, leaving the other one to get splattered...

Anyways, here is the picture from Egyptsville

The Afrika Korps and their Italian allies attacked 11th Army in El-Alamein, inflicting serious casualties to the British unit. The Italian XXV Corps assisted in the attack but failed to make any impression.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 8:21:54 AM   
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Pressure from Army Group North builds. A German corps has found a likely crossing spot across the Dvina which, if successful, would outflank the Soviet positions in Riga and at Daugvapils...




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 8:26:19 AM   
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An interesting, if curious development.... Where has Army Group Centre gone?




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 8:28:55 AM   
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Kiev falls and Soviet morale drops as a result. I guess I need some reinforcements in this region next turn..... I know there are at least half a dozen German units around Kiev, two of which are panzer formations.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 8:32:53 AM   
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Odessa, under incredible pressure, still holds. What a performance! The Garrison at Kirovgrad did well to in holding off the initial assault against it by the Wodrig Corps.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 8:43:51 AM   
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Here is a summary from the last AI turn. No picture from Greece as there is no change (the Germans were just performing mopping up operations ahead of the attack on Athens. Meanwhile III Corps is obviously being left to wither on the vine).




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 8:48:02 AM   
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Reinforcements

Soviet Union

2 x Garrison (Cherkassy and Mogilev)
1 x Corp (Riga)
1 x Tank Army (Moscow)

United Kingdom
The UK get the Garrison (Hull) and Corps (Bristol) that they didn't want to order

MPP Expenditure

UK - The need to save MPP for research is put on hold as the army in Egypt needs reinforcement. I bring another fighter and light bomber group to Egypt and a Canadian army sets sail.
USA - Research of Advanced Tanks and brings a fighter group up to strength.
USSR - Nothing - I forgot!




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 8:52:17 AM   
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The 14th and 16th Escort Flotillas search for the Wold Pack interrupting supplies to the Soviet Union, but without success.

On the Canadian route the 1st Escort Flotilla gets into position to attack a Wolf Pack but they dive. The 2nd Escort Flotilla then exchanges blows with a second Wolf Pack. In desperation the British send the old Hermes and Eagle to sea, but their aircraft cannot reach the last reported position of the U-Boats....




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 9:00:08 AM   
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In the Western Desert the British have no choice but to respond. 11th Army is taken out of the line. The Western Desert Force attacks the Italian XXV Corps but the assault is disappointing. 7th Armoured and the 1st Canadian Corps (that have taken up position in El-Alamein) then try and assault the Italian infantry in a pincer movement. This proves successful in reducing the corps to about a third of its original strength, but at that point the fighting peters out.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 10:16:53 AM   
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Seems you are doing well to me, I would move the flattop out of Alexandria to prevent another frogman attack though.
Also remember that the USSR starts behind in some techs, so lvl 2 = axis lvl 1.

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 10:20:46 AM   
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The Soviets make a bid to hold the Dvina, calling up the 3rd Light Tank Army and moving the 1st Shock Army northwest to counter the German XIII Corps threatening to form a bridgehead.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 10:28:15 AM   
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Seems you are doing well to me, I would move the flattop out of Alexandria to prevent another frogman attack though.
Also remember that the USSR starts behind in some techs, so lvl 2 = axis lvl 1.
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I've suffered one of those - I trust its not a regular occurrence? I have kept units in port as I don't know when I will be in a position to repair them - but want them on hand for when I can. If the Italians get more than one attack - and/or the British don't get a midget sub attack against the Germans, I won't be impressed....



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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 10:29:05 AM   
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Seems you are doing well to me, I would move the flattop out of Alexandria to prevent another frogman attack though.
Also remember that the USSR starts behind in some techs, so lvl 2 = axis lvl 1.
warspite1

I've suffered one of those - I trust its not a regular occurrence? I have kept units in port as I don't know when I will be in a position to repair them - but want them on hand for when I can. If the Italians get more than one attack - and/or the British don't get a midget sub attack against the Germans, I won't be impressed....




Can happen again, happened twice atleast in my game.
You get a shot at the RM if they dock in Taranto I think.

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 10:52:29 AM   
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quote:

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Seems you are doing well to me, I would move the flattop out of Alexandria to prevent another frogman attack though.
Also remember that the USSR starts behind in some techs, so lvl 2 = axis lvl 1.
warspite1

I've suffered one of those - I trust its not a regular occurrence? I have kept units in port as I don't know when I will be in a position to repair them - but want them on hand for when I can. If the Italians get more than one attack - and/or the British don't get a midget sub attack against the Germans, I won't be impressed....




Can happen again, happened twice atleast in my game.
You get a shot at the RM if they dock in Taranto I think.
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Well that's a tad disappointing. What about the attack on the Tirpitz?

Oh well....


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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 10:55:11 AM   
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quote:

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Seems you are doing well to me, I would move the flattop out of Alexandria to prevent another frogman attack though.
Also remember that the USSR starts behind in some techs, so lvl 2 = axis lvl 1.
warspite1

I've suffered one of those - I trust its not a regular occurrence? I have kept units in port as I don't know when I will be in a position to repair them - but want them on hand for when I can. If the Italians get more than one attack - and/or the British don't get a midget sub attack against the Germans, I won't be impressed....




Can happen again, happened twice atleast in my game.
You get a shot at the RM if they dock in Taranto I think.
warspite1

Well that's a tad disappointing. What about the attack on the Tirpitz?

Oh well....



No idea, never dared to use the KM for anything but a fleet in being in my game, so never moved them to Norway.

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 11:20:04 AM   
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We begin with the Soviet Union where things in the north are starting to hot up Despite the rain the Germans have made progress, forcing a bridgehead over the Dvina that threatens to unhinge the Soviet defence of Daugvapils and Riga. There is no chance of a successful counter attack (indicator showing 2:0) so do the Soviets a) try and crowd the Germans or b) simply pull back?

I am loathe to pull back completely - the German 8th Army and XVIII Corps have both taken heavy losses in trying to take Riga.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 11:32:25 AM   
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Army Group Centre have disappeared!! Absolutely no idea what the German plan is here in the centre....




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 11:35:46 AM   
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The Germans have gained a bridgehead across the upper Dneipr, northeast of Cherkassy, however lower down they are some way from the river and Odessa has now gone passed its historical hold date.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 11:39:59 AM   
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Here is a summary ahead of looking at the Mediterranean.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 11:46:56 AM   
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One thing that appears for certain - the Afrika Korps won't die!! Which is more than can be said for Greece......




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 11:51:25 AM   
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Reinforcements

Soviet Union

Zhukov is placed near Moscow

MPP Expenditure

UK - The research plan has gone out of the window as the need to reinforce Egypt takes priority.
USA - The US start the purchase of units to take the war to Germany and start off with an artillery unit.
USSR - Having forgotten to purchase last turn the Soviets have a bumper haul: Artillery, Tactical Bomber, Shock Army, Mechanised and 2 x Army




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 11:56:50 AM   
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The British destroyers locate the Wolf Pack on the northern Canadian route, but the U-Boats manage to dive and the aircraft from Hermes and Eagle are not able to locate the U-Boats either.

In Egypt no attack is planned in the sandstorm conditions, and instead the British concentrate on bringing units up to strength where possible.

The Canadian Army continues on its journey to North Africa.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 3:59:58 AM   
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It seems clear that the Axis have Leningrad as a goal, with a large number of units in Army Group North being concentrated to get across the Dvina.

What is pleasing here is that, although unfortunately the German bridgehead remains, they have not expanded it in the last turn, and the enemy presence on the north side of the river remains at one corps.

Furthermore, it is good to see that there are a number of German army and corps formations that are now understrength as a result of repeated efforts to take both Riga and Daugvapils. Less good is that I detect panzer forces being brought up now.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 4:12:55 AM   
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Equally pleasing from the Soviet perspective is that the Axis units either side of the Pripyat appears to remain understrength - particularly on the road to Moscow, where Minsk has yet to be taken - let alone Smolensk.

The loss of Kiev was dumb play on my part - I should have increased the number of defenders there - but having taken this key city, the Germans have not done much to exploit their success.

Units will be available from the Greek campaign now so I expect things to get a bit more uncomfortable.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 4:19:23 AM   
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The big story here is that, despite the great effort being expended by German and Romanian forces, Odessa still holds. Which kind of begs the question, what does a unit have to do to get an honour around here?? IV Corps' performance has been astonishing.

Of more concern is the position up river, where Kremenchuk is about to fall which will allow the Axis to consolidate their position on the east side of the Dneipr.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 4:38:24 AM   
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As can be seen from this picture, the British units need upgrading to Infantry (2) but its difficult to keep units in the front line and reinforce and upgrade!! Until they are upgraded there is no chance of a breakthrough - and indeed I am struggling to stop the Germans achieving this instead....

As expected, Greece finally fell this turn.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 4:45:15 AM   
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Reinforcements

Soviet Union


4 x Corps (Poltava, Pskov, Kursk, Gomel)
3 x Army (Bryansk, Riga, Dneprpetrovsk)
2 x Tanks (Polotsk, Smolensk)

MPP Expenditure

UK - All MPP used to reinforce / upgrade units in Egypt.
USA - They save their MPP as they want an HQ next.
USSR - All units reinforced as much as possible. 3 x Army 1 x Corps and 3 x Garrison




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 4:49:56 AM   
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The 16th Escort Flotilla finds a German Wolf Pack and attacks with no success, I bring the 14th Flotilla out (it should be in port being upgraded and strengthened) but their attack sees the U-Boats dive. The carriers Ark Royal and Furious are sent out covered by the 3rd Escort Flotilla but the U-boats remain hidden.

Meanwhile, the Canadian Army continues southeast and should be in Suez next turn - a welcome reinforcement.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 5:20:53 AM   
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Well that was an action packed turn! Not least because:


The Yanks are Coming! - ohhh lucky Yanks



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