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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/26/2016 6:27:21 PM   
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The Germans appear to be advancing on Minsk in the same manner as Kaunas - a very narrow front, followed by a head on single attack. Good. Long may it continue ...but I suspect it won't




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/26/2016 6:30:16 PM   
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I have perhaps neglected the importance of Kiev......

Odessa meanwhile gets the Order of Lenin for their determined and heroic defence. The Axis bring up aircraft....




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/26/2016 6:35:15 PM   
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I thought I'd said yes to this already but whatever girlfriend....YES!




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/26/2016 6:36:45 PM   
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I'm all for a bit of discipline every now and then...wait, what?, did I say that out loud?




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/26/2016 6:39:02 PM   
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Reinforcements


Soviet Union
Garrison in Bobyruysk
Garrison in Kremanchuk
Shock Army in Riga
Shock Army near Daugvapils

MPP Expenditure

UK - FFS. The British build for the Soviets again.
USA - Nothing
USSR - Research Advanced Tanks, 2 Corps and 2 Garrisons




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/26/2016 6:45:45 PM   
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I stay away a couple of days, expecting Christmas to cause a cease-fire in the fighting. I obviously couldn't have been more wrong.



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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/26/2016 6:50:15 PM   
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The 2nd Battle of El-Alamein which began on the 19th August, moves into its second week. The RAF suffer heavy losses in attacking the Italian 11th Army that holds position south of El-Alamein. A combined attack by the Western Desert Force and IV Corps almost destroys the Italian Army - a job that is then completed by 7th Armoured.

1st Canadian Corps are then brought up to assault the Albanian Corps to the southwest of El-Alamein, while 11th Army, in the town, provide the northern pincer in a concerted attack to try and finish the Italian army in Egypt. II Corps then move up from the south to deliver the Coup-de-grace.

At this point the British run out of fresh troops to bring into the battle....and as no units were reinforced due to using up all the British MMP - this could be a problem......




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/26/2016 6:52:45 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Orm


I stay away a couple of days, expecting Christmas to cause a cease-fire in the fighting. I obviously couldn't have been more wrong.


warspite1

Welcome back! I hope you had a good one - its not my fault its those Axis swine...


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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/26/2016 6:58:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1

25th October 1940

This well known exchange probably didn't happen but it pretty much sums up Western politicians attempts to understand the eastern European countries - and why they were so damn difficult to understand!

FDR: What’s the King’s name?
Aide: Hungary doesn’t have a King.
FDR: Then who runs the kingdom?
Aide: A Regent by the name of Admiral Miklós Horthy.
FDR: Admiral? Then Hungary must have a powerful navy.
Aide: Hungary has no navy; it doesn’t even have access to the sea.
FDR: Wars are often fought for religious reasons. What’s the main religion there?
Aide: Catholicism, Mr. President. But Admiral Horthy is Protestant.
FDR: Did this admiral declare war on us because of territorial claims then?
Aide: Hungary’s territorial claims are against Romania.
FDR: In that case, did Hungary declare war on Romania?
Aide: No, Hungary and Romania are allies.
FDR: Let me get this straight. Hungary is a kingdom run by a Regent who’s an admiral without a navy, and it is allied with Romania against which it has territorial claims but it has declared war on the U.S. against which it doesn’t.
Aide: That’s right, Mr. President.


Hail the king, er Prince, er Regent...or whatever...





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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/26/2016 8:10:57 PM   
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The 1st and 2nd Escort Flotillas search for the U-Boats attacking the Canadian convoy route. The 2nd fails to make contact but the 1st finds the Wolf Pack and inflict serious damage upon it.

Meanwhile the 14th and 16th Escort Flotillas both find the Wolf Pack attacking the convoy route to the USSR. Damage is inconclusive for both destroyers and submarines (2 vs 3 losses respectively).

Soviet Union

Again no pictures as no change to position from the above pictures - only that all units have been reinforced.

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/26/2016 8:39:45 PM   
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The Axis forces have withdrawn from El-Alamein, leaving a covering force only. How far back have they retreated though?......

Quite unexpectedly the 3rd Cruiser Division (Trieste, Bolzano and Trento) has sailed to Alexandria??




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/26/2016 8:43:49 PM   
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The Greeks are facing the end game - I just don't have the MPP to spare I am afraid. The fact that the Prime Minister Alexandros Korygis has committed suicide has not helped matters or morale.....




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/26/2016 8:46:50 PM   
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At last the Germans have got serious about Kaunas, whose days are clearly numbered. Further north, holding onto Riga may be difficult.

The Soviet Baltic subs keep the pressure on, costing the Germans another 14 MPP.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/26/2016 8:49:55 PM   
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The German forces - at least those that can be seen - around Minsk seems a little light. Is there a counter-attack opportunity here I wonder?




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/26/2016 8:51:53 PM   
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In the south the Soviets are praying for a big haul of reinforcements....




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/26/2016 8:58:05 PM   
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The German surface fleet remains intact and so I give the go ahead to this operation.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/26/2016 8:59:18 PM   
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The Soviets and British may be having problems with the Axis, but the mighty Persians? No problems.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/26/2016 9:02:44 PM   
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Reinforcements

United Kingdom

The Canadians get a tank unit near Halifax

United States
A Fighter unit in New York

Soviet Union
A Fighter unit near Leningrad

MPP Expenditure

UK - All MPP goes toward reinforcing Egypt.
USA - Research into Production Tech, Command and Control and AT.
USSR - 1 each of Mech, Army, Corps and Garrison




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/26/2016 9:06:19 PM   
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The German Wolf Pack on the Canada route is found again by the Royal Navy's 1st and 2nd Escort Flotilla. Damage is inflicted initially but then the surviving U-Boats manage to evade their pursuers once more.

On the Arctic route the Wolf Pack managed to get away.

In the Eastern Mediterranean the 3rd Cruiser Division paid for its bizarre mission with the loss of all three heavy cruisers. The Regia Marina has taken some major losses to date:

- 2 battleships (Caio Duilio, Andrea Doria)
- 2 Cruiser Divisions (Trento, Trieste, Bolzano, Pola, Fiume, Zara)
- 1 Destroyer Flotilla (x)

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/26/2016 9:12:29 PM   
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The decision is made not to attack in North Africa. As it is there are simply too few MPP to repair the air force and some of the army. Further losses without guarantee of success would be reckless.

I could do with some more fighters and tanks - but I need MPP for those too!




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/26/2016 9:42:12 PM   
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The Soviet High Command, at Stalin's 'request' decide to launch a counter-attack north of Minsk. 3rd Army attacks the German VII Corps, forcing the German unit to retreat. It is then attacked by the 2nd Light Tank Corps, which can make absolutely no headway against the resolute defenders. Meanwhile I Corps, which was supposed to support the attack, gives up its defensive position behind the river for nothing, as it cannot attack the Germans before they retreat out of range.....

Totally 'forgetting' from where the idea to attack emanated from, Stalin asks Colonel-General Pavlov why he was so foolish as to order such a foolhardy operation. When the stuttering, shaking Pavlov mutters that it was Stalin's own idea, Uncle Joe puts a consoling hand on the man's shoulder. "I think you need a rest Pavlov, my good friend Beria is outside, why don't you go and have a little chat with him?".....




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 6:32:31 AM   
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We start the review of the AI turn in the desert once more. The Axis forces have tried attacking El-Alamein once again, although the attacks proved ineffective and caused some loss to the attacking units.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 6:36:30 AM   
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The Greeks are down to one unit in the capital (plus the remnants of the III Corps in Bulgaria)!

I can upgrade the defenders of Athens but MPP are a problem at present and so I suspect I won't bother.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 6:38:02 AM   
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Losses were manageable on the Eastern Front last turn.

The German U-Boats remain at large in the North Atlantic...




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 6:42:26 AM   
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The Germans have taken the brave defenders of Kaunas and will no doubt soon be in a position to bring those troops up to the front line. I wish I had placed more troops on the river line....

The German Navy - as far as I can tell sans destroyers - have appeared in the Gulf of Finland again? I won't bring my subs to the area as they are enjoying interdicting convoy traffic too much at present.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 6:45:52 AM   
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Looks like Stalin had Pavlov shot for nothing. The Germans of Army Group Centre were in no position to take advantage of the Soviet mistake. The Germans still seem remarkably light for this key route to Moscow.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 6:49:28 AM   
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Call me old fashioned but I think the defenders of Kiev are in the stickiest situation since sticky the stick insect got caught on a sticky bun. Pleasing to see the losses incurred by both the panzers and infantry. 2nd Hungarian Army in particular has been mauled in the process of reducing the city.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 6:57:40 AM   
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What does one have to do to get an Honour round here?? The defenders of Odessa are getting close to matching their historical counterparts - who were not withdrawn from the city until 15th/16th October 1941. The Germans have brought up reinforcements - including the Luftwaffe - so such a prolonged stay may be beyond them, but either way, we salute the heroes of 4th Corps.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 7:09:57 AM   
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So lets take stock a little.

In the Soviet Union I am slightly ahead of my position in the last game (although that was not difficult). In addition I have Infantry Weapons, AT Weapons and Advanced Tanks being researched (level 2).

The US are keeping research levels at cira 1,600 or so. I will need to start buying units soon I think.

The British are the concern. They have probably saved Egypt - but don't appear powerful enough to advance. I am having to spend all MPP on keeping units in the field operational - but research has been nil for some time now. I have units that need reinforcing and upgrading and reinforcements that cannot move because I cannot spend the MPP.

However, I am going to have to bite the bullet and spend on research....




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/27/2016 7:11:46 AM   
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Reinforcements


Soviet Union
2 x Garrison - Zaporhyze and Tartu
3 x Shock Armies - Orsha, Gomel and Konotop
2 x Corps - Kherson and Chernigov

MPP Expenditure

UK - The UK spend a few points on the RAF and Army in Egypt, but save the bulk of the MPP for research.
USA - The US ensure that all units in the US are reinforced and upgraded to the max
USSR - Rokossovsky HQ, 3 x Corps 1 x Garrison





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