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Strategic Bombing - 12/5/2016 12:25:08 AM   
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In my first game as the Allies I had realized that strategic bombing - even with upgraded heavy bombers and escorts - can be more costly for me than it is for the enemy. This is because repairing damaged bomber points is expensive.

What I did to alleviate the situation is do a lot of air recon first - not to see what's on the map, but to lure the enemy fighters out. When they already have flown alot of interceptions (and lost strength points through that too), there is much less interference when I finally start up the heavy bombers. When they get going, their damage to MPPS and resources adds up real fast - even though the graphs might not really show it because it *seems* to me they only take the direct MPP losses from the raid into account, but not the damage to economy caused by the lost income in the following turns due to crippled resources.

I'm still not sure whether investment in strategic bombing is really worth it, though. I do it because I like it, but it may be that instead of investing in a fleet of heavy bombers (including research for them) it might be more effective to put all those MPPs into an amphib invasion force (which then gets off the ground more early).

What do you guys think?

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RE: Strategic Bombing - 12/5/2016 12:50:31 AM   
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Actually there is a strategy for using SAC bombers but you'll need to tech them up. By the way LR helps also but not for the bombers, you'll want it for your fighters.

In past SCs, teched bombers do substantial damage to interceptors and with escorts they quickly reduce the intercepting fighters to less than 5 strength. Now after the reduction guess what you do with your LR fighters? No more intercepting fighters and it cost a lot to replace them, a lot more MPPs then the strategic bombing of resources. Double wammy!

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RE: Strategic Bombing - 12/5/2016 1:09:00 AM   
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SB Campaign does cost a lot, and it's the MPP battle that the Axis will lose. If you play as the Axis you will see how annoying it is to have to replace your interceptors every turn, and eventually you won't be able to keep up and will be cursing the Allies for having so many planes.

That said, I find the SB campaign tedious and annoying when I play as the Allies. Last couple games I have not started it until the Allies land in France, then I bomb hell out of everything

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RE: Strategic Bombing - 12/5/2016 8:28:27 AM   
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How high would you guys say has the Heavy Bomber Tech and Long Range Tech to be to make the campaign effective?

In my current game as the Allies in 1943, I have the heavies on level 3 and long range 2. I have five bombers (3 US and 3 UK) and advance aircraft level 3 fighters to escort them. I consciously waited until now to commence bombing (as I found that early bombing with a small fleet and less upgraded bomber fleet is not effective). Within three turns I could reduce Essen, Duesseldorf, Dortmund to almost nil, and also did considerable damageto Paris, but there was of course also damage to my bombers and fighters. (The Axis has about 5 fighters within interception range.)

Now what's upsetting me is the strategic bombing graph for the Axis: After these three turns it declares that the damage to my bombers was (alledgedly) two times the damage to Axis MPPs! (It is something like 180 to 90.) I don't think these are the real costs, though. It does not seem to include damage to Axis fighters and it does not seem to include the prolonged MPP income loss because the Ruhr area resources need to build up again for ten turns to be at full strength again. Am I right about that?

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RE: Strategic Bombing - 12/5/2016 2:36:58 PM   
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Yes, factor in the MPP cost to the enemy's Fighters and the longer term loss of production and its more beneficial to you.

Plus Strategic Bombers can be used to isolate locations, reducing their supply value and preventing reinforcements from Operating by rail to the area. This can be very useful if used in conjunction with D-Day.

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RE: Strategic Bombing - 12/5/2016 2:55:40 PM   
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Thanks, Bill, for the confirmation that the graphs aren't exhaustive here.

And yeah, it's profoundly satisfying to see the supply of units in cities going down to zero in one bombing run.

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RE: Strategic Bombing - 1/27/2017 3:49:18 PM   
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I'm sure that I'm doing something wrong, but I find that the whole air force usage is a waste of resources?

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